You think the high price of the platform is, all of a sudden, starting to cause Sony problems? Perhaps it’s that the Pro was announced so people are either waiting to buy that, or anticipating a price drop on the base model and holding off buying it? This is what always happens.
Is it really a surprise? I won’t play a sequel without having played the first, so I feel like the available pool of potential customers is lower with a sequel than a new IP. Then you get those who bought the first but didn’t like it enough for the second…
This is a shame. By all accounts the devs made a very playable shooter mechanically, surely it was the people who green-lit (or dictated) something so generic that are the issue.
@RoomWithaMoose In fairness, nobody knew MS would not prioritise its own platform above others (in fact, they still could in theory). History actually indicated the opposite in fact. MS could have destroyed the PlayStation platform by strangling it of much of the largest third party content, they just decided not to. For now anyway.
What’s crazy is that this would be even worse for MS if it wasn’t for Sonys stock shortages early on.
As you say, it’s obvious why MS are giving up on the Xbox as exclusive platform for selling its content. With PlayStation consumers having a significant library of games already, people are not just going to walk away from the ecosystem.
What I wish MS would do, rather than the subscription rubbish, is push Nintendo. Release a handheld hybrid instead, with more grunt, and price it as a secondary console. With MS’s collection of publishers they might actually get Ninty to do more than release more copies of its same old franchises.
Townsman VR and max mustard for me. I’ll also be picking up Bloomtown: A Different Story this month, so will be quite busy considering I’m still playing Cult of the Lamb, Vampire Survivors, Monster Train, FM4, Vacation Simulator, Astro Bot, and Kingdom Come Deliverance… usually only play 2 games at a time max, but there is just too much coming out.
@NEStalgia
There are so many…I just…I don’t know where to start with that
“objectively poor value propositions”
No. Not objective at all, especially when we haven’t seen what it can do. The closest you can get is “objectively expensive compared to old consoles, unless adjusted for inflation”.
“ They're a CONSOLE vendor. By definition their obligation is to cater to the masses.”
Which they do with the PS5. This is an enthusiasts upgrade. That’s all. It doesn’t damage relationships.
“ They released the PS5 about 2 years too early in terms of the tech it needed to have to be a genuine generational leap. ”
Ignoring that the time to move to next gen is mainly dictated by chip manufacturers, also that “genuine generational leap” is subjective (for me just the reduction in loading times is a big deal, more than a few more res’s certainly) sure, Sony could have waited 2 years (or 5 or 10) but they would have given MS too big a lead had they done so. Ironically perhaps a case of MS being too much competition lol.
“ If they could not build a machine that represents a significant upgrade where the price represents obvious value, they should not have built the console at all. ”
You really are thinking too much into this, and are actually at risk of descending into hyperbole. Also, what does it hurt you if others can afford to get a more powerful system and think it’s good value to them? You are a PC gamer, you should be used to that 🤷♂️
I’ll refer you to my first comment:
“ The reason this is £700 is because people will pay it. If they wouldn’t, it would either be marginally cheaper or it just wouldn’t exist.”
Costs have gone up so the price goes up, if Sony didn’t think people would pay the price they wouldn’t make it. It’s not complicated.
They are under no obligation to cater to the masses, they can release a niche device if they want and it causes no harm. The fact top end PC GPUs exist doesn’t mean the lower level market is destroyed, just like releasing this doesn’t mean the base PS5 market will not be catered to. It will still be the biggest market. Let’s just let people enjoy what they want without saying it shouldn’t be made.
Also, the PS5 is not a “terrible console” going purely by capability at release benchmarked against high end PCs, it is actually better than the PS4 at release by quite a significant margin. The problem is the economy has meant people didn’t switch and devs had to maintain support for PS4.
Ok, in fairness, side by side, the base PS5 looks like it’s smeared n Vaseline and has lots more blurring in movement. I’m still happy to play the next few AAA games like this though and wait on the PS6
No interest in this. Roll on AI I say, we need dev cycles for new games to shorten so there is less temptation to remaster already made games every 5-10 years.
@Blaze215 But what you are doing then is basically comparing it to a base PS5. Which is a valid thing to do of course, but then you have to build one for a base PS5 price to be roughly equivalent.
@Blaze215
That’s nowhere near equivalent. I’ve been out of the PC game for a while, but even I can see that. Now, if you were to consider online a “must have” (I don’t) and presume you wouldn’t play many plus games, then added the cost of this up for the lifetime of a console and added this to the console price, then and only then could you say a PC could be equivalent value. If you had the money to spend all at once.
But it’s really a moot argument as PCs and consoles are fundamentally different user cases for most console gamers.
I have the VITA version I think (was it on plus at one point?), anyway, I remember bouncing off it, but I feel like I might enjoy it more on a big screen with a proper controller. Kind of disappointed it’s a remaster and not an emulation though, otherwise I might get it for free.
@NEStalgia
No, I’m not missing the point. Discretionary income has fallen because costs have increased to make and distribute everything and thus they have to be sold at a higher price. People’s incomes didn’t immediately fall leading to less spare cash, rather prices immediately went up for everything that we buy. You are acting like Sony, MS etc are immune to this. When they have to pay more for materials, more for manufacturing, more for wages, more for shipping, of course they have to increase prices. And if a product becomes too expensive to sell well (we will see with this, but Sony obviously feel it’s worth releasing) then it simply won’t be made and the money that would have been spent on it would be funnelled elsewhere were there would be a bigger return on investment.
This is an enthusiast product that isn’t going to ever be the biggest selling model. They have to price it to make a profit as there are a vanishingly small number of new customers this brings. If this wasn’t available the same customer would almost certainly buy the base model. PlayStation makes money on software.
@torquex
Sure, I’m one of them honestly, but this at a lower price is likely just not profitable, and thus not possible. Sony are a business. No point being pissed about that when it’s why these things even exist at all.
This product is for a niche of a niche. Hell, I’m a person who very much enjoys, and feels I get good value out of, my PSVR2 and Portal, and I’m not getting one as I don’t feel the cost is worth it.
Not everything is for us. Things we might have bought before the economy went to crap and our disposable income dropped, like an upgrade to an already current gen console, we won’t anymore. That’s life. My take home pay has dropped by £300 a month just over this year, and everything from my rent to heating and food has risen, I’m feeling it, but costs have similarly gone up for businesses so they have to raise their prices or cancel products (like we’ve seen with many games, which leads to layoffs etc). Even if I’m not getting it I’m happy this exists for those who feel it’s worthwhile for them.
@NEStalgia
Why would you compare it to the cost 4 years ago. The cost to make it has obviously risen. A better comparison is surely to the costs now, plus the cost of the objective improvement of the bigger hardrive. If you align with current market prices (series X with 2tb, I don’t think there is such a PS5 model yet) that is $600. This pro is $100 more for the improvements. I think that’s fair, just a bit rich for my blood considering I have a perfectly good PS5 already and the majority of games I like don’t push it at all.
People should stop aligning the price with what they think is fair, and start understanding what is the actual required cost for this thing to even exist for the few people who want it.
Reading some of the comments. My god!
The cost of labour, shipping, and raw materials has risen alarmingly. Inflation is through the roof in every western economy. That’s why everything has risen in price.
In a world where rents, food, energy, the real essentials in life, have risen alarmingly, I would be embarrassed to complain this much about an enthusiast edition of a luxury gaming device.
I understand that people are disappointed that they are priced out, or they feel the benefits are not aligned with the costs or whatever, I won’t be getting it basically for this reason, but It’s like people have no concept of what’s going on around them and feel entitled for everything to remain the same for them. A little perspective people.
And yes, if the economy doesn’t recover and people’s wages rise, then yes, we will all be feeling it in the wallet when the PS6 releases.
@B_Lindz He didn’t say it was affordable, in fact he said many people won’t be able to afford it, he said it was reasonable. So let us also be reasonable.
I won’t be getting it due to the (to me) significant and uncalled for changes. Hope others enjoy it though, I’ll stick with my happy memories of the original game.
@Tecinthebrain I didn’t say it was trash. I have it. I’ll probably finish it at some point. It’s just not as good out of VR. Not sure how you can possibly even doubt that if you’ve played Rescue Mission. It’s self evident. Even if you haven’t logic should tell you.
@dskatter
I wouldn’t even consider spending that on a Pro when it offers no new gameplay experiences, just better res and ray tracing…
To spend half that on PSVR2 however (when on sale) is a no brainer. Completely new gameplay experiences, a full new roster of hundreds of games, it’s just so joyful. Anyone bored of the same old pancakes should definitely try it.Makes a lot more sense than PS5, and then a PC or Xbox.
@dskatter
If you were part of the PSVR community, you would know how desperate people are for this game in VR. Not to mention the faith it would give people in Sony making a hybrid game for it.
@GymratAmarillo Yes, I freely admit I got caught by the hype. Which I never do. But Rescue Mission was the best platformer of all time, I was excited. Even knowing we lost depth (I know this is now essentially for me with platformers), scale, being present with the game all around you…even knowing this I thought it would be great. Instead it is merely very very good. I now know how much better VR is in a like for like comparison and I won’t make the same mistake.
@dskatter There aren’t, there are maybe half that. This game in VR would have sold a million headsets. Most people who played Rescue Mission on VR1 would have been dying to play a true version of this.
@GymratAmarillo Elitism? How is it elitism? I just said it’s a second rate version of the old game. Which is objectively correct. The same way my eyesight would be second rate if I gouged an eye out and lost all depth perception. I’m not looking to argue about something so obvious.
I appreciate the game. The devs excuse for not making a better version alongside it is just pitiful though.
They would have sold a couple million more copies globally if it had been PSVR2 compatible. I bounced off it after the first world. It’s just a second rate Astro Bot to anyone who played Astro Bot Rescue Mission I’m sorry to say.
It’s more likely we’ll just move people to a contract model, such as with phones, rather than get them to switch to PC. That’ll hide the price and keep things easy for people. In fact, I’m surprised it hasn’t been pushed more already.
@get2sammyb
Fair, but lots of games I enjoyed in pancake mode in the past I really can’t now due to getting used to being in my games. Astro Bot is a case in point unfortunately, I keep trying to love it, and can see how I would have enjoyed it massively in the past, but there is always a big bit missing. Same with Resident Evil. Same with Gran Turismo. Can only think it will be the same with this.
Well, when MS release a 2Tb Series X for $600, or course Sony feel they can price a more powerful console at $700.
And they can honestly, this is a premium model for people who want the best (I won’t be getting one), this is not a loss leading kind of product. Those interested in this mostly already have a PS5 and are just upgrading.
I really can’t feel the difference between 30fps and 60fps, yet I usually play in performance mode as I hate the motion blur that devs often implement at 30fps to make things look smoother.
@Don
Are you still under the impression PlayStation is run by the Japanese? That hasn’t been the case for around 8 years - look at their gaming output and attitude to the Japan market.
$700 for a 2tb PS5 Pro!!!? This is the worst value for money console since…erm…since the 2tb Series X at $600 with no upgrades.
Seriously, couldn’t believe that, but the reaction to this is ridiculous. Everything is more expensive to make, thus more expensive to buy. Everything!
I’ll not be getting it that’s for sure, but that’s because few games will make enough use of it before PS6
@McTwist
In fairness, I doubt these were the original artist designs. Most likely they went through hundreds of focus groups to weed out everything anyone could possibly find offensive or challenging, and this slop was what remained.
Nice upgrade, but I’ve either played or have no interest in games that are likely to get a patch, and we have maybe a few years of new games before the PS6. Doesn’t seem worth it.
The draw and junction system means this could never be the best FF, sorry. It disincentivised the use of magic completely as it made you weaker and necessitated more draws, a very tedious mechanic.
To be honest, it always struck me as strange that they marketed this to young adults back in the 90s (trying to move away from a market that was seen as mainly children, who relied on parents for occasional gifts, to grown ups with their own income), yet they called it something associated mainly with children - “play”. It seemed a bit disjointed to me at the time, and I guess this shows that it was.
Of course Powerstation is a stupid and confusing name and we are all glad this didn’t happen.
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Re: Rumour: Concord Cost $400 Million, Sony Believed It Was the 'Future of PlayStation'
“ was designed to be repeatedly revisited, not just in games but in cross-media”
Well, that would explain why it was so “inoffensive” (crap). If true anyway.
Re: Retro PS2 TimeSplitters Titles Outperform PS5, PC Flop Concord in UK Charts
You think the high price of the platform is, all of a sudden, starting to cause Sony problems? Perhaps it’s that the Pro was announced so people are either waiting to buy that, or anticipating a price drop on the base model and holding off buying it? This is what always happens.
Re: The Novelty of PlayStation's PC Ports Does Appear to Be Dampening
Is it really a surprise? I won’t play a sequel without having played the first, so I feel like the available pool of potential customers is lower with a sequel than a new IP. Then you get those who bought the first but didn’t like it enough for the second…
Re: Like a Dragon: Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii Might Be the Series' Most Insane Game Yet, Sailing to PS5, PS4 in February
Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god! This is why I love gaming! This is why I love Yakuza! Best gaming series of all time (apart from Ishin). Day 1!
Re: Dev Behind PS5, PC Flop Concord Could Close as Director Steps Down
This is a shame. By all accounts the devs made a very playable shooter mechanically, surely it was the people who green-lit (or dictated) something so generic that are the issue.
Re: PS5's Commanding Console Position Is Seemingly Insurmountable
@RoomWithaMoose
In fairness, nobody knew MS would not prioritise its own platform above others (in fact, they still could in theory). History actually indicated the opposite in fact. MS could have destroyed the PlayStation platform by strangling it of much of the largest third party content, they just decided not to. For now anyway.
Re: PS5's Commanding Console Position Is Seemingly Insurmountable
What’s crazy is that this would be even worse for MS if it wasn’t for Sonys stock shortages early on.
As you say, it’s obvious why MS are giving up on the Xbox as exclusive platform for selling its content. With PlayStation consumers having a significant library of games already, people are not just going to walk away from the ecosystem.
What I wish MS would do, rather than the subscription rubbish, is push Nintendo. Release a handheld hybrid instead, with more grunt, and price it as a secondary console. With MS’s collection of publishers they might actually get Ninty to do more than release more copies of its same old franchises.
Re: PS Plus Members Get Hundreds of PS5, PS4 Discounts in New PS Store Sale
Townsman VR and max mustard for me. I’ll also be picking up Bloomtown: A Different Story this month, so will be quite busy considering I’m still playing Cult of the Lamb, Vampire Survivors, Monster Train, FM4, Vacation Simulator, Astro Bot, and Kingdom Come Deliverance… usually only play 2 games at a time max, but there is just too much coming out.
Re: Vince Zampella Defends PS5 Pro Price, Says 'It's Actually Not That Bad'
@NEStalgia
There are so many…I just…I don’t know where to start with that
“objectively poor value propositions”
No. Not objective at all, especially when we haven’t seen what it can do. The closest you can get is “objectively expensive compared to old consoles, unless adjusted for inflation”.
“ They're a CONSOLE vendor. By definition their obligation is to cater to the masses.”
Which they do with the PS5. This is an enthusiasts upgrade. That’s all. It doesn’t damage relationships.
“ They released the PS5 about 2 years too early in terms of the tech it needed to have to be a genuine generational leap. ”
Ignoring that the time to move to next gen is mainly dictated by chip manufacturers, also that “genuine generational leap” is subjective (for me just the reduction in loading times is a big deal, more than a few more res’s certainly) sure, Sony could have waited 2 years (or 5 or 10) but they would have given MS too big a lead had they done so. Ironically perhaps a case of MS being too much competition lol.
Re: Vince Zampella Defends PS5 Pro Price, Says 'It's Actually Not That Bad'
@NEStalgia
You say:
“ If they could not build a machine that represents a significant upgrade where the price represents obvious value, they should not have built the console at all. ”
You really are thinking too much into this, and are actually at risk of descending into hyperbole. Also, what does it hurt you if others can afford to get a more powerful system and think it’s good value to them? You are a PC gamer, you should be used to that 🤷♂️
I’ll refer you to my first comment:
“ The reason this is £700 is because people will pay it. If they wouldn’t, it would either be marginally cheaper or it just wouldn’t exist.”
Costs have gone up so the price goes up, if Sony didn’t think people would pay the price they wouldn’t make it. It’s not complicated.
They are under no obligation to cater to the masses, they can release a niche device if they want and it causes no harm. The fact top end PC GPUs exist doesn’t mean the lower level market is destroyed, just like releasing this doesn’t mean the base PS5 market will not be catered to. It will still be the biggest market. Let’s just let people enjoy what they want without saying it shouldn’t be made.
Also, the PS5 is not a “terrible console” going purely by capability at release benchmarked against high end PCs, it is actually better than the PS4 at release by quite a significant margin. The problem is the economy has meant people didn’t switch and devs had to maintain support for PS4.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth's Huge PS5 Pro Enhancements Are a 'Vast Improvement'
Ok, in fairness, side by side, the base PS5 looks like it’s smeared n Vaseline and has lots more blurring in movement. I’m still happy to play the next few AAA games like this though and wait on the PS6
Re: PS5 Exclusives Final Fantasy 16, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Failed to Meet Expectations
They always do this. It seems if every game they release doesn’t meet the sales forecasted then maybe their sales forecasts are overly optimistic.
Also, what’s going on with all these ads making the screen hop around like an epileptic jumping bean?
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn's PS5, PC Remaster Is Very Much the Real Deal
No interest in this. Roll on AI I say, we need dev cycles for new games to shorten so there is less temptation to remaster already made games every 5-10 years.
Re: Vince Zampella Defends PS5 Pro Price, Says 'It's Actually Not That Bad'
@Blaze215
But what you are doing then is basically comparing it to a base PS5. Which is a valid thing to do of course, but then you have to build one for a base PS5 price to be roughly equivalent.
Re: Vince Zampella Defends PS5 Pro Price, Says 'It's Actually Not That Bad'
@Blaze215
That’s nowhere near equivalent. I’ve been out of the PC game for a while, but even I can see that. Now, if you were to consider online a “must have” (I don’t) and presume you wouldn’t play many plus games, then added the cost of this up for the lifetime of a console and added this to the console price, then and only then could you say a PC could be equivalent value. If you had the money to spend all at once.
But it’s really a moot argument as PCs and consoles are fundamentally different user cases for most console gamers.
Re: Stone-Cold PS Vita Classic Returns in Freedom Wars Remastered PS5, PS4
I have the VITA version I think (was it on plus at one point?), anyway, I remember bouncing off it, but I feel like I might enjoy it more on a big screen with a proper controller. Kind of disappointed it’s a remaster and not an emulation though, otherwise I might get it for free.
Re: Vince Zampella Defends PS5 Pro Price, Says 'It's Actually Not That Bad'
@NEStalgia
No, I’m not missing the point. Discretionary income has fallen because costs have increased to make and distribute everything and thus they have to be sold at a higher price. People’s incomes didn’t immediately fall leading to less spare cash, rather prices immediately went up for everything that we buy. You are acting like Sony, MS etc are immune to this. When they have to pay more for materials, more for manufacturing, more for wages, more for shipping, of course they have to increase prices. And if a product becomes too expensive to sell well (we will see with this, but Sony obviously feel it’s worth releasing) then it simply won’t be made and the money that would have been spent on it would be funnelled elsewhere were there would be a bigger return on investment.
This is an enthusiast product that isn’t going to ever be the biggest selling model. They have to price it to make a profit as there are a vanishingly small number of new customers this brings. If this wasn’t available the same customer would almost certainly buy the base model. PlayStation makes money on software.
Re: Vince Zampella Defends PS5 Pro Price, Says 'It's Actually Not That Bad'
@torquex
Sure, I’m one of them honestly, but this at a lower price is likely just not profitable, and thus not possible. Sony are a business. No point being pissed about that when it’s why these things even exist at all.
This product is for a niche of a niche. Hell, I’m a person who very much enjoys, and feels I get good value out of, my PSVR2 and Portal, and I’m not getting one as I don’t feel the cost is worth it.
Not everything is for us. Things we might have bought before the economy went to crap and our disposable income dropped, like an upgrade to an already current gen console, we won’t anymore. That’s life. My take home pay has dropped by £300 a month just over this year, and everything from my rent to heating and food has risen, I’m feeling it, but costs have similarly gone up for businesses so they have to raise their prices or cancel products (like we’ve seen with many games, which leads to layoffs etc). Even if I’m not getting it I’m happy this exists for those who feel it’s worthwhile for them.
Re: Vince Zampella Defends PS5 Pro Price, Says 'It's Actually Not That Bad'
@NEStalgia
Why would you compare it to the cost 4 years ago. The cost to make it has obviously risen. A better comparison is surely to the costs now, plus the cost of the objective improvement of the bigger hardrive. If you align with current market prices (series X with 2tb, I don’t think there is such a PS5 model yet) that is $600. This pro is $100 more for the improvements. I think that’s fair, just a bit rich for my blood considering I have a perfectly good PS5 already and the majority of games I like don’t push it at all.
People should stop aligning the price with what they think is fair, and start understanding what is the actual required cost for this thing to even exist for the few people who want it.
Re: Vince Zampella Defends PS5 Pro Price, Says 'It's Actually Not That Bad'
Reading some of the comments. My god!
The cost of labour, shipping, and raw materials has risen alarmingly. Inflation is through the roof in every western economy. That’s why everything has risen in price.
In a world where rents, food, energy, the real essentials in life, have risen alarmingly, I would be embarrassed to complain this much about an enthusiast edition of a luxury gaming device.
I understand that people are disappointed that they are priced out, or they feel the benefits are not aligned with the costs or whatever, I won’t be getting it basically for this reason, but It’s like people have no concept of what’s going on around them and feel entitled for everything to remain the same for them. A little perspective people.
And yes, if the economy doesn’t recover and people’s wages rise, then yes, we will all be feeling it in the wallet when the PS6 releases.
Re: Vince Zampella Defends PS5 Pro Price, Says 'It's Actually Not That Bad'
@B_Lindz
He didn’t say it was affordable, in fact he said many people won’t be able to afford it, he said it was reasonable. So let us also be reasonable.
Re: Dead Rising Deluxe Remaster (PS5) - Capcom Classic Still Shines 18 Years Later
I won’t be getting it due to the (to me) significant and uncalled for changes. Hope others enjoy it though, I’ll stick with my happy memories of the original game.
Re: 10 Major PS5, PS4 Games Are Getting Axed from PS Plus Extra, Including LittleBigPlanet 3
@Judal27
Builders 2 or Heroes 1 would be the spin off recommendations.
Re: 10 Major PS5, PS4 Games Are Getting Axed from PS Plus Extra
Yes, it’s a shame about the dragon quest games but I’m sure they’ll be back.
Re: PS Plus Premium's Latest Retro Titles All Have Trophies on PS5, PS4
Fantastic! Points to great work by Sony to inject new life into these older games. Looking forward to giving Sky Gunner a go.
Will I be going for them? Well, if I like the game of course. Why would I decide not to do some game extending, developer given challenges?
Re: PS5's Astro Bot the USA's Second Best-Selling Game in Its First Week
@Tecinthebrain
I didn’t say it was trash. I have it. I’ll probably finish it at some point. It’s just not as good out of VR. Not sure how you can possibly even doubt that if you’ve played Rescue Mission. It’s self evident. Even if you haven’t logic should tell you.
Re: PS5's Astro Bot the USA's Second Best-Selling Game in Its First Week
@dskatter
I wouldn’t even consider spending that on a Pro when it offers no new gameplay experiences, just better res and ray tracing…
To spend half that on PSVR2 however (when on sale) is a no brainer. Completely new gameplay experiences, a full new roster of hundreds of games, it’s just so joyful. Anyone bored of the same old pancakes should definitely try it.Makes a lot more sense than PS5, and then a PC or Xbox.
Re: PS5's Astro Bot the USA's Second Best-Selling Game in Its First Week
@dskatter
If you were part of the PSVR community, you would know how desperate people are for this game in VR. Not to mention the faith it would give people in Sony making a hybrid game for it.
Re: PS5's Astro Bot the USA's Second Best-Selling Game in Its First Week
@GymratAmarillo
Yes, I freely admit I got caught by the hype. Which I never do. But Rescue Mission was the best platformer of all time, I was excited. Even knowing we lost depth (I know this is now essentially for me with platformers), scale, being present with the game all around you…even knowing this I thought it would be great. Instead it is merely very very good. I now know how much better VR is in a like for like comparison and I won’t make the same mistake.
Re: PS5's Astro Bot the USA's Second Best-Selling Game in Its First Week
@dskatter
There aren’t, there are maybe half that. This game in VR would have sold a million headsets. Most people who played Rescue Mission on VR1 would have been dying to play a true version of this.
Re: PS5's Astro Bot the USA's Second Best-Selling Game in Its First Week
@GymratAmarillo
Elitism? How is it elitism? I just said it’s a second rate version of the old game. Which is objectively correct. The same way my eyesight would be second rate if I gouged an eye out and lost all depth perception. I’m not looking to argue about something so obvious.
I appreciate the game. The devs excuse for not making a better version alongside it is just pitiful though.
Re: PS5's Astro Bot the USA's Second Best-Selling Game in Its First Week
They would have sold a couple million more copies globally if it had been PSVR2 compatible. I bounced off it after the first world. It’s just a second rate Astro Bot to anyone who played Astro Bot Rescue Mission I’m sorry to say.
Re: PS Plus Premium's TimeSplitters Titles Now All Have Trophies on PS5, PS4
Fantastic. Please, please, please do the same for Ridge Racer Type 4!
Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - Issue 27
5/10 - but I got the answers right for the games I’d played. Can’t do much more than that without lucky guess.
Re: Sony Boss Says 'PCs Are Difficult to Set Up', Firm Will Focus on PS5
It’s more likely we’ll just move people to a contract model, such as with phones, rather than get them to switch to PC. That’ll hide the price and keep things easy for people. In fact, I’m surprised it hasn’t been pushed more already.
Re: C-Smash VRS New Dimension Demo Lets You Sample PSVR2 Hit in Pancake Mode on PS5
@get2sammyb
Fair, but lots of games I enjoyed in pancake mode in the past I really can’t now due to getting used to being in my games. Astro Bot is a case in point unfortunately, I keep trying to love it, and can see how I would have enjoyed it massively in the past, but there is always a big bit missing. Same with Resident Evil. Same with Gran Turismo. Can only think it will be the same with this.
Re: C-Smash VRS New Dimension Demo Lets You Sample PSVR2 Hit in Pancake Mode on PS5
Can’t imagine it will be anywhere near as fun without being able to see in three dimensions and have one to one movement.
Re: Lack of Competition from Xbox Partly Why PS5 Pro Is $700, Says Analyst
Well, when MS release a 2Tb Series X for $600, or course Sony feel they can price a more powerful console at $700.
And they can honestly, this is a premium model for people who want the best (I won’t be getting one), this is not a loss leading kind of product. Those interested in this mostly already have a PS5 and are just upgrading.
Re: PS5 Players Choose Performance Mode 75% of the Time
I really can’t feel the difference between 30fps and 60fps, yet I usually play in performance mode as I hate the motion blur that devs often implement at 30fps to make things look smoother.
Re: Lack of Competition from Xbox Partly Why PS5 Pro Is $700, Says Analyst
@Don
Are you still under the impression PlayStation is run by the Japanese? That hasn’t been the case for around 8 years - look at their gaming output and attitude to the Japan market.
Re: Lack of Competition from Xbox Partly Why PS5 Pro Is $700, Says Analyst
$700 for a 2tb PS5 Pro!!!? This is the worst value for money console since…erm…since the 2tb Series X at $600 with no upgrades.
Seriously, couldn’t believe that, but the reaction to this is ridiculous. Everything is more expensive to make, thus more expensive to buy. Everything!
I’ll not be getting it that’s for sure, but that’s because few games will make enough use of it before PS6
Re: Lack of Competition from Xbox Partly Why PS5 Pro Is $700, Says Analyst
The reason this is £700 is because people will pay it. If they wouldn’t, it would either be marginally cheaper or it just wouldn’t exist.
Re: 13 More Games Join PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Week
Love they keep putting PSVR2 games on! I already bought pistol whip, but so many will love it.
Re: PS5 Pro Will Improve PSVR2 Games
Most games are quest ports. Some are improved a little, but hardly requiring more than PS5 power.
Re: Freelance Artist Attempts to Redesign PS5, PC Flop Concord's Cast
@LifeGirl
lol, I read that in the voice of bill burr, and imagined everyone on staff trying to look dumbfounded.
Re: Freelance Artist Attempts to Redesign PS5, PC Flop Concord's Cast
@McTwist
In fairness, I doubt these were the original artist designs. Most likely they went through hundreds of focus groups to weed out everything anyone could possibly find offensive or challenging, and this slop was what remained.
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
Instead of upgrading to this you can get a PSVR2 and several dozen great games and really enjoy yourself.
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
Nice upgrade, but I’ve either played or have no interest in games that are likely to get a patch, and we have maybe a few years of new games before the PS6. Doesn’t seem worth it.
Re: 25 Years Ago, Square Released the Best Final Fantasy Game
The draw and junction system means this could never be the best FF, sorry. It disincentivised the use of magic completely as it made you weaker and necessitated more draws, a very tedious mechanic.
Re: Did You Know PlayStation Almost Had a Different Name?
To be honest, it always struck me as strange that they marketed this to young adults back in the 90s (trying to move away from a market that was seen as mainly children, who relied on parents for occasional gifts, to grown ups with their own income), yet they called it something associated mainly with children - “play”. It seemed a bit disjointed to me at the time, and I guess this shows that it was.
Of course Powerstation is a stupid and confusing name and we are all glad this didn’t happen.