If it’s going to be just a short time after release then I’d rather they just wait a short time and have them in the game. I’ve nothing against free DLC of course, but I would hope they at least have their own trophies if they are going that route. I suspect they will given Playroom.
I don’t play their games as I don’t have the patience for that but, generally speaking, I only ever use guides if I know there are a lot of missable activities or story beats and it’s like a 100hr game I know I won’t replay.
Massively disappointed to lose scale, depth and immersion. Platformers really benefit from that, otherwise you are often just lining up shadows to colours on a flat screen. Still, I have faith it’ll be the best non VR platformer possible, so it’ll still be great. Just nowhere near as great.
@ApostateMage
But isn’t that through plus? In which case isn’t it just available for free on extra? I’m sure I played it for free.or maybe it’s been removed.
@NeonPizza Makes sense, you’ll need to full back on crutches like that when there is no one to one motion. I haven’t played a flat resi for many years, and never played 4 flat before, so I wouldn’t know how important it is in flat mode, but in VR movement and aim is perfect. I only parried in one particular boss fight.
@NeonPizza I can’t say I had any issues with the knife. I barely bothered with parrying though. Didn’t seem much point. Dropping stuff and having it instantly reattach seemed like a bit of a crutch, but a nice option.
So basically they make people wait an extra two weeks unless they pony up? Doesn’t bother me, I very rarely get games at release price anyway, and certainly wouldn’t for what is likely to be a 15hr game max. Still seems a bit scummy though. This type of thing has been slowly creeping in for a while now.
It’s a common release price. These games will all go down to £6.99 maximum as the common standard price (“sale” price).
But, as I said yesterday, Sony should have put more work into their emulator to run at a better resolution and performance, rather than just a basic emulation with a few quality of life features.
I know they are always scared of breaking games then getting a bad rep and needing to put work in to fix it, but they could just have a “performance” mode as an option and give a disclaimer.
@carlos82
Wasn’t it many hours later that he made that comment? He knew exactly what he was leaving dangling regarding Sony with those first comments. It’s a common and rather transparent tactic in business, politics, etc. it’s not even that he lied initially, just threw a little shade. It’s his job after all to make MS seem like the people’s champion, they’ve been at it for ages now with the whole subscription thing, cross play thing, etc (when we all know these businesses are all just looking to maximise growth).
Too right to! I’m not a big fan of modern Sony, but when someone says it’s slimy for you to continue a practice they started themselves (which Phil admits too much later in an interview), and in fact have accelerated massively by buying entire third party publishers and then taking games that where originally planned to be multiplatform away entirely (Starfield, Indiana jones, etc) I can’t blame him for commenting back.
The only good thing about this apparent hypocrisy is that Phil seems to be laying the groundwork for a change in policy that might see the likes of elder scrolls release on PlayStation.
Happy about this as PS2 had some bangers, still I would argue with the statement
“ While you could argue this preserves the original experience,”
I don’t think people can argue that as the games would have looked much better on a CRT TV than on a 4K it wasn’t built around. They really should be up rendered at the least.
The only such service I would appreciate would be to have all such games and DLC that includes things like this to be a filter I can turn off in the PSN store. I don’t want to search for games and be assailed with a multitude of social hang out spaces. I do agree it’s weird Sony don’t do it better though, it’s where they are looking to make most of their money after all.
The problem is that, the way MS run things, it is extremely difficult to understand what type of benefit some devs give. I mean, how much did this dev contribute to people signing up for Gamepass? Because if MS put the game on Gamepass day 1 this is how they need to be judged, not on profit from game sales, which would have been cut off at the legs by the subscription service. How do MS decide whether their games would bring people on board and so be a net benefit or net loss? The answer is they cannot. There are too many varying factors which influence sub take up.
What’s new? The Xbox “dead” controller has meant cross platform games have lacked such innovations for generations. I was hopeful when I heard MS may be releasing a modern controller with such features, but haven’t heard anything on that since.
Completely makes sense. Get the Horizon characters on Switch and kids will become interested in the franchise. If anything I’m more surprised Nintendo allowed it.
As it basically requires me, a 41 yo man, to have 4 other gaming friends I can block out my limited free time with…I just don’t think this is aimed at me.
No interest in this type of repetitive game. The cutscenes actually looked fun though. Shame it isn’t single player.
No idea why people keep running such an obvious story. Most of the big publishers require you to create a free account, both console and PC players are well used to this. At least doing it for PSN means you get additional trophy challenges (I believe Uplay did something similar in the past, although I rarely played Ubisoft games).
I don’t need to date her, i’m happy about having something pretty to look at. I’d request western devs take note, but I don’t think they care about what people want in this respect, they have their own politics.
@GeeForce
It’s not brand loyalty. I don’t even like California Sony and their sanitised cinematic games bore the hell out of me. I just don’t think crybaby opportunists should be given any credence whatsoever. But, yes, if it was never updated in the firmware they could be susceptible to such people on a technicality, despite there never being any actual point in allowing it given there is effectively no content that can run at 8K
@Arkz Even if they technically never opened it up, they could easily argue they would have done as soon as there was a game capable. And they aren’t responsible for setting third party software limits.
@GeeForce Can it do 8k? Yes. Then no action possible. Can people say it was reasonable to assume the 8K was for that generation of games? Possibly. But good luck with that argument.
What are people on about? Of course it can output at 8k, so can the ps4, it would just run like a slideshow if it wasn’t a very specific type of game. No false advertising going on.
@CrashBandicoat
The default is the standard edition. In the app, just click the arrow pointing to the right to be able to select the different editions. The Royal edition is £5.24.
It is poor design - which is why I have multiple editions of games in my wishlist so I’m notified when one or the other goes on sale.
Think I’ll leave it for now. The devs say they are adding side activities so the world outside of the main story doesn’t feel so empty.
Will definitely buy it though. The characters are endearing, and I’m learning Japanese at the minute, so the mass of conversation will be helpful.
So people are saying Sony is going to release hardware which would make the Portal harder to sell (as surely this will have the remote play app too) and also be a platform where nobody has to actually buy new games (which is where PlayStation makes it’s money). Can’t really see it.
@NEStalgia
Yeah, that edge blur can be annoying as all hell. Added to that I have prescription lense inserts that seem to add some extra occlusion if looking to the extreme edge of the view. Still, when I’m immersed in a game I barely any of that thankfully.
@NEStalgia Haven’t you sorted the sweet spot thing yet? I literally find it hard to not hit the sweet spot now, hundreds of times putting it on and off have just locked it into muscle memory and “feel”.
I want them to release more innovative AA games, release more innovative PSVR2 games, remove the restrictive policies that lead to increased censorship/self censorship, and commit to, say, releasing no more than 2 live service games per year (10+ is just ridiculous).
Now, admittedly, that might all lead to a loss, or drop in, sales growth for Sony. But it’s what would keep me loyal.
If they want to make money, that’s mobile gaming. PlayStation can be there to grow franchises. Just connect mobile games to PSN so I can go for trophy challenges on the bus and I’ll be OK with it.
Without those features, especially eye tracking, there’s literally no point to buying this for PC. Those features are what make the headset one of the best in the market. Still, if you already have it and also have a decent PC, this just opened a lot more gaming possibilities.
@get2sammyb
I guess the lower spec would also allow for more PC sales, plus means there is less difficulty getting it to run well on the higher spec consoles. Also would mean less game to actually make, so less dev time and expense. It’s not like they are the biggest studio. Not saying I like it, just that I can see the business case for them.
And yet by not being in VR it’s a fraction of the quality it could have been. Rescue Mission players will know exactly what I’m talking about. The only saving grace it that so few people played that wonderous VR game most just won’t understand what they are missing as they play. For me, and I am looking forward to the game, it will be a very bittersweet gaming experience.
I do wonder what the devs feel about losing so much by going back to pancake gaming. I wouldn’t be happy to be creating a lesser work. Especially with the promise of PSVR2 so close.
Although it wont be of the same quality as Rescue Mission, at least I have Max Mustard to look forward to.
I’m not sure what people expect. Does it have to be known IP? As long as there’s some nice sunny Japanese stuff I’m happy, my my only disappointment was the non VR-ness of Astro Bot. There were a few good things smattered within that were new to me too! Sony could do without putting their live service stuff front and centre though, doesn’t give the best impression.
Honest question though - what would people consider a good show if this was so terrible? I’d honestly like to know. Anyone?
More of the same. I wouldn’t mind just seeing the weekly CGI episodes on YouTube but I’m not wasting time on a repetitive arena shooter. Especially if it means I have to make 4 new friends as a 41 year old grumpy man.
Although a Astro tech demo was a free pack in, not many have experienced the true magic of Astro Bot because Rescue Mission required a VR headset. Whilst this game won’t be as good of course, I fully expect it to win many, many fans, and the next similar poll in which an Astro features will surely have it at the top.
Without VR support it will be a fraction of the game it could have been. Will still get it as it’ll likely be one of the best platformers ever made, but Sony absolutely should have made it a hybrid game. I’m glad non VR players will get to experience a small part of the Astro magic, but it’s a real shame for people who know how great this game could have been.
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Re: Astro Bot PS5 Will Get Free Post-Launch DLC
If it’s going to be just a short time after release then I’d rather they just wait a short time and have them in the game. I’ve nothing against free DLC of course, but I would hope they at least have their own trophies if they are going that route. I suspect they will given Playroom.
Re: FromSoftware Boss Says Using Guides to Beat Its Games a 'Perfectly Valid Playstyle'
I don’t play their games as I don’t have the patience for that but, generally speaking, I only ever use guides if I know there are a lot of missable activities or story beats and it’s like a 100hr game I know I won’t replay.
Re: PS5's Astro Bot Doesn't Support PSVR2 Because It Was Never Designed to Do So
Massively disappointed to lose scale, depth and immersion. Platformers really benefit from that, otherwise you are often just lining up shadows to colours on a flat screen. Still, I have faith it’ll be the best non VR platformer possible, so it’ll still be great. Just nowhere near as great.
Re: Preview: Astro Bot on PS5 Could Be the Best 3D Platformer This Side of Nintendo
Ever since Astro Bot Rescue Mission redefined what 3D platformer means to me, I’d say this will be the best platformer this side of PSVR1
Re: Tons More Massive PS5, PS4 Games with Huge Discounts
@ApostateMage
But isn’t that through plus? In which case isn’t it just available for free on extra? I’m sure I played it for free.or maybe it’s been removed.
Re: Tons More Massive PS5, PS4 Games with Huge Discounts
Might get super bullet break as I’ve been looking for another deck builder.
Re: Sublime Horror Resident Evil Village Tops 10 Million Units
@NeonPizza
Makes sense, you’ll need to full back on crutches like that when there is no one to one motion. I haven’t played a flat resi for many years, and never played 4 flat before, so I wouldn’t know how important it is in flat mode, but in VR movement and aim is perfect. I only parried in one particular boss fight.
Re: Sublime Horror Resident Evil Village Tops 10 Million Units
@NeonPizza
I can’t say I had any issues with the knife. I barely bothered with parrying though. Didn’t seem much point. Dropping stuff and having it instantly reattach seemed like a bit of a crutch, but a nice option.
Re: Square Enix Offers $30 Upgrade to Play Life is Strange: Double Exposure Two Weeks Early
So basically they make people wait an extra two weeks unless they pony up? Doesn’t bother me, I very rarely get games at release price anyway, and certainly wouldn’t for what is likely to be a 15hr game max. Still seems a bit scummy though. This type of thing has been slowly creeping in for a while now.
Re: Tomb Raider Legend Unearths 480p, 30fps Performance on PS5, PS4
It’s a common release price. These games will all go down to £6.99 maximum as the common standard price (“sale” price).
But, as I said yesterday, Sony should have put more work into their emulator to run at a better resolution and performance, rather than just a basic emulation with a few quality of life features.
I know they are always scared of breaking games then getting a bad rep and needing to put work in to fix it, but they could just have a “performance” mode as an option and give a disclaimer.
Re: Sublime Horror Resident Evil Village Tops 10 Million Units
A phenomenal PSVR2 game (albeit not as good as Resi 4 in my opinion, and no trophies). Not too keen on flat mode resi these days though.
Re: Ex-PS5 Exec Shawn Layden Isn't Holding Back His Feelings on Xbox
@carlos82
Wasn’t it many hours later that he made that comment? He knew exactly what he was leaving dangling regarding Sony with those first comments. It’s a common and rather transparent tactic in business, politics, etc. it’s not even that he lied initially, just threw a little shade. It’s his job after all to make MS seem like the people’s champion, they’ve been at it for ages now with the whole subscription thing, cross play thing, etc (when we all know these businesses are all just looking to maximise growth).
Re: Ex-PS5 Exec Shawn Layden Isn't Holding Back His Feelings on Xbox
Too right to! I’m not a big fan of modern Sony, but when someone says it’s slimy for you to continue a practice they started themselves (which Phil admits too much later in an interview), and in fact have accelerated massively by buying entire third party publishers and then taking games that where originally planned to be multiplatform away entirely (Starfield, Indiana jones, etc) I can’t blame him for commenting back.
The only good thing about this apparent hypocrisy is that Phil seems to be laying the groundwork for a change in policy that might see the likes of elder scrolls release on PlayStation.
Re: Hands On: They're Rough Around the Edges, But It's Awesome to Have PS2 Games Back on PS5, PS4
Happy about this as PS2 had some bangers, still I would argue with the statement
“ While you could argue this preserves the original experience,”
I don’t think people can argue that as the games would have looked much better on a CRT TV than on a 4K it wasn’t built around. They really should be up rendered at the least.
Re: PS5 Needs to Do a Better Job of Alerting You to the Things Going on in Your Games
The only such service I would appreciate would be to have all such games and DLC that includes things like this to be a filter I can turn off in the PSN store. I don’t want to search for games and be assailed with a multitude of social hang out spaces. I do agree it’s weird Sony don’t do it better though, it’s where they are looking to make most of their money after all.
Re: Scores of Retro PS Plus Premium Titles Upgraded with Platinum Trophies on PS5, PS4
Ridge racer type 4 trophies please! I’ll so jump into it. One of my all time best PS memories.
Re: Xbox Explains Why It Shuttered Beloved Hi-Fi Rush Developer
The problem is that, the way MS run things, it is extremely difficult to understand what type of benefit some devs give. I mean, how much did this dev contribute to people signing up for Gamepass? Because if MS put the game on Gamepass day 1 this is how they need to be judged, not on profit from game sales, which would have been cut off at the legs by the subscription service. How do MS decide whether their games would bring people on board and so be a net benefit or net loss? The answer is they cannot. There are too many varying factors which influence sub take up.
Re: PS5 Fans Beg Sony for a More Fulfilling Livestream in the Aftermath of Xbox Show
Sony are terrible with communication. But most of their games hold no interest for me anyway.
Re: French Turn-Based RPG Expedition 33 Announced for PS5 in Promising Debut Trailer
This looks bloody fantastic.
Re: Valorant Won't Have Gyro Controls on PS5 Because Xbox Doesn't Support It
What’s new? The Xbox “dead” controller has meant cross platform games have lacked such innovations for generations. I was hopeful when I heard MS may be releasing a modern controller with such features, but haven’t heard anything on that since.
Re: Elden Ring's Massive Shadow of the Erdtree DLC Doesn't Have Any Trophies on PS5, PS4
Fewer developer challenges and tasks. That’s just lazy and shows a lack of care for their player base.
Re: Some PlayStation Fans Are Losing Their Minds Over LEGO Horizon Being on Switch
Completely makes sense. Get the Horizon characters on Switch and kids will become interested in the franchise. If anything I’m more surprised Nintendo allowed it.
Re: Video: Is Concord Destined to Fail?
As it basically requires me, a 41 yo man, to have 4 other gaming friends I can block out my limited free time with…I just don’t think this is aimed at me.
Re: PS Plus Premium Gets 6 New PSVR2 Games, Available to Download Now
@GeeEssEff
The VR games are generally cheap as chips. Very rarely spend more than £16
Re: PS Plus Premium Gets 6 New PSVR2 Games, Available to Download Now
@BusyOlf
I hope you meant Premium. But yes, they are excellent. Not as action orientated as I would like though.
Re: PS Plus Premium Gets 6 New PSVR2 Games, Available to Download Now
Some great games there (although I wish they would fix the Before Your Eyes trophies not popping.
Re: Concord PS5, PC Will Reportedly Require a PSN Account to Play
No interest in this type of repetitive game. The cutscenes actually looked fun though. Shame it isn’t single player.
No idea why people keep running such an obvious story. Most of the big publishers require you to create a free account, both console and PC players are well used to this. At least doing it for PSN means you get additional trophy challenges (I believe Uplay did something similar in the past, although I rarely played Ubisoft games).
Re: Random: Monster Hunter Wilds Fans Want to Date New Capcom Cutie, Gemma the Smithy
I don’t need to date her, i’m happy about having something pretty to look at. I’d request western devs take note, but I don’t think they care about what people want in this respect, they have their own politics.
Re: PS5 Packaging No Longer Mentions 8K, Some Fans Accuse Sony of False Advertising
@GeeForce
It’s not brand loyalty. I don’t even like California Sony and their sanitised cinematic games bore the hell out of me. I just don’t think crybaby opportunists should be given any credence whatsoever. But, yes, if it was never updated in the firmware they could be susceptible to such people on a technicality, despite there never being any actual point in allowing it given there is effectively no content that can run at 8K
Re: PS5 Packaging No Longer Mentions 8K, Some Fans Accuse Sony of False Advertising
@Arkz
Even if they technically never opened it up, they could easily argue they would have done as soon as there was a game capable. And they aren’t responsible for setting third party software limits.
Re: PS5 Packaging No Longer Mentions 8K, Some Fans Accuse Sony of False Advertising
@GeeForce
Can it do 8k? Yes. Then no action possible. Can people say it was reasonable to assume the 8K was for that generation of games? Possibly. But good luck with that argument.
Re: PS5 Packaging No Longer Mentions 8K, Some Fans Accuse Sony of False Advertising
What are people on about? Of course it can output at 8k, so can the ps4, it would just run like a slideshow if it wasn’t a very specific type of game. No false advertising going on.
Re: PS Store Adds Another 1,500 Big PS5, PS4 Deals for Summer Game Fest
@CrashBandicoat
The default is the standard edition. In the app, just click the arrow pointing to the right to be able to select the different editions. The Royal edition is £5.24.
It is poor design - which is why I have multiple editions of games in my wishlist so I’m notified when one or the other goes on sale.
Re: Mini Review: Sushi Ben (PSVR2) - Uneven Slice of Life VR Title Has Style
Think I’ll leave it for now. The devs say they are adding side activities so the world outside of the main story doesn’t feel so empty.
Will definitely buy it though. The characters are endearing, and I’m learning Japanese at the minute, so the mass of conversation will be helpful.
Re: PlayStation Fans Are Losing Their Heads Over an Iffy Portable PS4 Rumour
So people are saying Sony is going to release hardware which would make the Portal harder to sell (as surely this will have the remote play app too) and also be a platform where nobody has to actually buy new games (which is where PlayStation makes it’s money). Can’t really see it.
Re: PSVR2's PC Adapter Available on 7th August, Costs $60
@NEStalgia
Yeah, that edge blur can be annoying as all hell. Added to that I have prescription lense inserts that seem to add some extra occlusion if looking to the extreme edge of the view. Still, when I’m immersed in a game I barely any of that thankfully.
Re: PSVR2's PC Adapter Available on 7th August, Costs $60
@NEStalgia
Haven’t you sorted the sweet spot thing yet? I literally find it hard to not hit the sweet spot now, hundreds of times putting it on and off have just locked it into muscle memory and “feel”.
Re: It's 'A Truly Exciting Time' for PlayStation as New Sony CEOs Take Control
I want them to release more innovative AA games, release more innovative PSVR2 games, remove the restrictive policies that lead to increased censorship/self censorship, and commit to, say, releasing no more than 2 live service games per year (10+ is just ridiculous).
Now, admittedly, that might all lead to a loss, or drop in, sales growth for Sony. But it’s what would keep me loyal.
If they want to make money, that’s mobile gaming. PlayStation can be there to grow franchises. Just connect mobile games to PSN so I can go for trophy challenges on the bus and I’ll be OK with it.
Re: PSVR2's PC Adapter Available on 7th August, Costs $60
Without those features, especially eye tracking, there’s literally no point to buying this for PC. Those features are what make the headset one of the best in the market. Still, if you already have it and also have a decent PC, this just opened a lot more gaming possibilities.
Re: Xbox Series S Specs Limit the Scope of Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2
@get2sammyb
I guess the lower spec would also allow for more PC sales, plus means there is less difficulty getting it to run well on the higher spec consoles. Also would mean less game to actually make, so less dev time and expense. It’s not like they are the biggest studio. Not saying I like it, just that I can see the business case for them.
Re: Astro Bot Is the 'Biggest' Game Team ASOBI Has Ever Made
And yet by not being in VR it’s a fraction of the quality it could have been. Rescue Mission players will know exactly what I’m talking about. The only saving grace it that so few people played that wonderous VR game most just won’t understand what they are missing as they play. For me, and I am looking forward to the game, it will be a very bittersweet gaming experience.
I do wonder what the devs feel about losing so much by going back to pancake gaming. I wouldn’t be happy to be creating a lesser work. Especially with the promise of PSVR2 so close.
Although it wont be of the same quality as Rescue Mission, at least I have Max Mustard to look forward to.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for June 2024?
I’ve heard streets of rage is actually good, but I’ve got so many games I actually want to play that I doubt I’ll live long enough to get to it.
Re: PS5's Anime Waifu Dress-Up Game Headed by Zelda: Breath of the Wild Designer
Mobile history? Gatcha? So is this a real game or a live service slot machine? Hopefully the former as it actually looked quite interesting.
Edit: saw your response. I guess that’s gamers out. Maybe my 8 yo niece would be interested, but she doesn’t have a PS5.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 531
Hubris this weekend . Might have to dog sit for family, in which case I’ll take the Portal and play some vesperia, Balatro, and/or Monster Sanctuary.
Re: Poll: What Was Your Favourite Game from State of Play?
Astro Bot, both the best and most disappointing reveal of the show.
Still, at least we have Max Mustard coming!
Re: Latest State of Play Is One of the Worst-Received PS5 Shows Yet
I’m not sure what people expect. Does it have to be known IP? As long as there’s some nice sunny Japanese stuff I’m happy, my my only disappointment was the non VR-ness of Astro Bot. There were a few good things smattered within that were new to me too! Sony could do without putting their live service stuff front and centre though, doesn’t give the best impression.
Honest question though - what would people consider a good show if this was so terrible? I’d honestly like to know. Anyone?
Re: Big New PS5, PC Shooter Concord Has an Uphill Battle Ahead of It
More of the same. I wouldn’t mind just seeing the weekly CGI episodes on YouTube but I’m not wasting time on a repetitive arena shooter. Especially if it means I have to make 4 new friends as a 41 year old grumpy man.
Re: Monster Hunter Wilds, Astro Bot the Biggest PS5 Winners from State of Play
Although a Astro tech demo was a free pack in, not many have experienced the true magic of Astro Bot because Rescue Mission required a VR headset. Whilst this game won’t be as good of course, I fully expect it to win many, many fans, and the next similar poll in which an Astro features will surely have it at the top.
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced During Sony's State of Play Livestream for May 2024?
@kailun
It’s got 80 levels across 6 worlds. Also, if you’d played rescue mission, you’d have more faith.
Re: PS5 Platformer Astro Bot Will Have 80 Action-Packed Levels
Without VR support it will be a fraction of the game it could have been. Will still get it as it’ll likely be one of the best platformers ever made, but Sony absolutely should have made it a hybrid game. I’m glad non VR players will get to experience a small part of the Astro magic, but it’s a real shame for people who know how great this game could have been.