@MrPeanutbutterz
Yep, that’s the info I was missing at the beginning. I thought for sure this would have been one of their games to get a PS5 version, but clearly not. Should have noticed really, it’s right there in the title. New SKU, (almost) certainly new trophy list 👍
@NEStalgia
Yes, that’s why I used the words “imagine” and “could”. We are talking about the future. Which is why I said “we need” in my first comment. Just like we are talking about the future when people talk about job loses en masse.
To repeat my first post to you:
“ We don’t need hardware to “go back three generations”, we need ai to speed up software development for AAA games.”
@Fiendish-Beaver I only read that you can transfer your game saves over, if it’s a new SKU it could well have another trophy list, and historically that’s what’s happened most of the time. It could be treated as a DLC rather than a new SKU of course, a la Resi 8 VR, but probably not (hopefully).
@Fiendish-Beaver For offline games we always get the choice about carrying over save progress (just delete your save from the console). The question is whether it shares a trophy list, but someone pointed out to me that this never had a PS4 version (amazingly) which, if true, means this should be a different SKU with a new list. Fingers crossed anyway.
@Voltan
Isn’t there a native PS5 edition? I played on PS5 but might have been in back compat. If not then there should indeed be a separate list. Happy days!
@naruball
I guess it’s because horror just works so darn fantastically in VR. Still, for exploration i’d much rather something like CyubeVR. Something beautiful and uplifting rather than stressful lol. Man I wish VR was viable when Sony were still focused on their Japanese devs.
That’s sucks as it probably means the same trophy list / trophy auto pops even if you delete your save first. A big part of my motivation gone for playing the game through again.
@CielloArc
And yet it was done before that game. The timing of the patent is also interesting. It’s seems a stretch, but I guess easy to get around by making the capture device a cube, or just a gun shot or something. Don’t see why they should have to though.
Not really of interest me, but I do find it strange Nintendo can patent the mechanic of throwing and object to capture a creature, but specially as this predates Pokémon.
Dragon age looks like turd, and I’m not really into more swordplay 3rd person stuff but those all look top quality anyway. Very happy with the Hitman trilogy in VR (£10 upgrade if you already have it flat), and metro is looking very good in VR too. Would have liked a few more games I’m personally excited about, but I can’t say it wasn’t an objectively good showing.
Looks interesting. I just wish there were more lighthearted PSVR2 games with a world I actually would choose to inhabit lol.
(And, obviously, it goes without saying, if available in VR I would have no interest in flat mode)
Well, it was a good game, but I’ve forgotten a lot of plot points which put me off forbidden West. Maybe, if it has a new trophy list (which it should as a remaster) I’ll play through again with better graphics as a refresher before a potential forbidden west playthrough.
@OldGamer999
Yeah, I’d normally be the demographic for the pro (have 2 PS5s, PSVR2, Portal etc), but they have given me no reason to get it, because there are no games that require it. Hell, most games still don’t even require the base PS5 and could get by quite well on PS4. Very happy with the amazing VR games (although Sony themselves could make more) and the great Portal flexibility, but Pro has nothing new.
@OldGamer999
They’ve been boring since 2018 when they decimated most japanese devs output for their home market. Their only saving grace, the thing that puts them above every other console maker, is VR. And they aren’t exactly committing to that fully.
@NEStalgia
Imagine if a dev could just speak their imagination and AI would create it. No need to actually code. Adaptations and alterations done on the fly, by voice, allowing many instances of a team’s imagination to be created and discarded or iterated upon.
The thing holding back more originality is the fact that there is a large time (and so financial) investment to creating and changing things, and that is a risk.
So, yeah, I don’t buy the whole “AI just re-uses what has been done before, output will be generic and boring” argument. AI is a tool, not a master.
Especially as this is what every human being does anyway, reinterpret and iterate from their experience.
Obviously there are lots of process things AI could take over too, but I’m concentrating on your originality concern, as I see it again and again.
@Deityjester
That’s a laughable response. Why would you think people care if PC players get to play it, the more successful a game is the more likely it is to get a sequel (I don’t like most Sony games, but that doesn’t mean I want them to fail and disappoint all those who like them).
I think you’re lumping me in with a group of people who, incidentally, barely exist.
I’ve never even heard of this game, and I’m on gaming sites every day. Maybe I just wasn’t interested and forgot about it, but I don’t get the impression it was advertised that much.
Edit: yes, complete mind fart (especially as I’ve already completed Resi 4 VR multiple times - as you can see in my PSN profile). I was thinking about the next Resi Remake releasing (think it’s Zero or Code Veronica). Fingers crossed for a reveal.
VR games coming in thick and fast. With more being added to PS+ every month I can’t keep up. Although I will probably get Townsmen VR while it’s on sale. More options are always appreciated though. Hopefully a few more Japanese, and non-horror focused options.
Is this number of games, or value? I probably buy more games digitally these days, but spend more physically. £15 is my limit for a digital game, anything more and I know it’ll be cheaper to buy and trade back at CEX. From the title it seems volume. If you did this by value I suspect it would be a lot closer.
Pitiful people. Can’t believe there are so many. Many just buying the game to review bomb it then getting it refunded.
I don’t like the new God of Wars, I tried, but I just find them boring and generic, but I wouldn’t review bomb just because you have to connect to another account, any more than I have when I was made to connect to Ubisoft’s network. These people are just more fanboys who don’t do the same to other companies’ games that require exactly the same thing. If they did I’d respect them a bit more.
Whats more, I hear you don’t even need to connect to PSN to play it. It asks you to, but you can just skip it (I have no direct experience with this, just numerous indirect reports).
If I did get any Sony game on PC however, I wouldn’t even consider not connecting to PSN as I would lose all of the trophy challenges. I also like the fact Sony can boot someone’s account if they find them cheating in a single game, which would theoretically make any cross play much more console like rather than having to endure all of the PC cheaters…maybe that’s another reason these sad people review bomb thinking about it.
@CVCubbington I think we’ve hit the point where spending more to push games forward isn’t profitable. I don’t think it matters too much what the power of a system is, until AI progresses enough to take all of the grunt work out of game development we’ll be getting games that can be sold across multiple systems and not maxing the best.
@TruestoryYep
I wasn’t even thinking they would try to get a PS6 game on a handheld with its inevitable computing and thermal restrictions. Sony are not turning into Nintendo when they are doing perfectly well in the higher end console space, and this story doesn’t suggest they are. I saw this as a separate handheld market device if it exists. Obviously with some PS4 back compat, some crossover IP and perhaps even cross connection of games on both devices in some fashion, but not a Switch compromise. They’d be foolish to take on Nintendo at their own game.
@Toot1st
Yes, it is. But MS require next gen games on their system be held back through their parity requirement. This then means it will be on PS for multiplatform games. It’s a bit different as it means it’s inevitable, whereas staying on last gen isn’t depending on sales numbers and such, and is likely to reduce as a problem over time whereas the Series S type problem is locked in till next gen. Nobody wants that.
I’ve got too many games on the go at the minute so I’m going to concentrate on finishing at least one, which this weekend will be Vacation Simulator I think.
You think the high price of the platform is, all of a sudden, starting to cause Sony problems? Perhaps it’s that the Pro was announced so people are either waiting to buy that, or anticipating a price drop on the base model and holding off buying it? This is what always happens.
Is it really a surprise? I won’t play a sequel without having played the first, so I feel like the available pool of potential customers is lower with a sequel than a new IP. Then you get those who bought the first but didn’t like it enough for the second…
This is a shame. By all accounts the devs made a very playable shooter mechanically, surely it was the people who green-lit (or dictated) something so generic that are the issue.
@RoomWithaMoose In fairness, nobody knew MS would not prioritise its own platform above others (in fact, they still could in theory). History actually indicated the opposite in fact. MS could have destroyed the PlayStation platform by strangling it of much of the largest third party content, they just decided not to. For now anyway.
What’s crazy is that this would be even worse for MS if it wasn’t for Sonys stock shortages early on.
As you say, it’s obvious why MS are giving up on the Xbox as exclusive platform for selling its content. With PlayStation consumers having a significant library of games already, people are not just going to walk away from the ecosystem.
What I wish MS would do, rather than the subscription rubbish, is push Nintendo. Release a handheld hybrid instead, with more grunt, and price it as a secondary console. With MS’s collection of publishers they might actually get Ninty to do more than release more copies of its same old franchises.
Townsman VR and max mustard for me. I’ll also be picking up Bloomtown: A Different Story this month, so will be quite busy considering I’m still playing Cult of the Lamb, Vampire Survivors, Monster Train, FM4, Vacation Simulator, Astro Bot, and Kingdom Come Deliverance… usually only play 2 games at a time max, but there is just too much coming out.
@NEStalgia
There are so many…I just…I don’t know where to start with that
“objectively poor value propositions”
No. Not objective at all, especially when we haven’t seen what it can do. The closest you can get is “objectively expensive compared to old consoles, unless adjusted for inflation”.
“ They're a CONSOLE vendor. By definition their obligation is to cater to the masses.”
Which they do with the PS5. This is an enthusiasts upgrade. That’s all. It doesn’t damage relationships.
“ They released the PS5 about 2 years too early in terms of the tech it needed to have to be a genuine generational leap. ”
Ignoring that the time to move to next gen is mainly dictated by chip manufacturers, also that “genuine generational leap” is subjective (for me just the reduction in loading times is a big deal, more than a few more res’s certainly) sure, Sony could have waited 2 years (or 5 or 10) but they would have given MS too big a lead had they done so. Ironically perhaps a case of MS being too much competition lol.
“ If they could not build a machine that represents a significant upgrade where the price represents obvious value, they should not have built the console at all. ”
You really are thinking too much into this, and are actually at risk of descending into hyperbole. Also, what does it hurt you if others can afford to get a more powerful system and think it’s good value to them? You are a PC gamer, you should be used to that 🤷♂️
I’ll refer you to my first comment:
“ The reason this is £700 is because people will pay it. If they wouldn’t, it would either be marginally cheaper or it just wouldn’t exist.”
Costs have gone up so the price goes up, if Sony didn’t think people would pay the price they wouldn’t make it. It’s not complicated.
They are under no obligation to cater to the masses, they can release a niche device if they want and it causes no harm. The fact top end PC GPUs exist doesn’t mean the lower level market is destroyed, just like releasing this doesn’t mean the base PS5 market will not be catered to. It will still be the biggest market. Let’s just let people enjoy what they want without saying it shouldn’t be made.
Also, the PS5 is not a “terrible console” going purely by capability at release benchmarked against high end PCs, it is actually better than the PS4 at release by quite a significant margin. The problem is the economy has meant people didn’t switch and devs had to maintain support for PS4.
Ok, in fairness, side by side, the base PS5 looks like it’s smeared n Vaseline and has lots more blurring in movement. I’m still happy to play the next few AAA games like this though and wait on the PS6
No interest in this. Roll on AI I say, we need dev cycles for new games to shorten so there is less temptation to remaster already made games every 5-10 years.
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Re: Your Horizon Zero Dawn PS4 Progress Will Transition to PS5 Remaster
@MrPeanutbutterz
Yep, that’s the info I was missing at the beginning. I thought for sure this would have been one of their games to get a PS5 version, but clearly not. Should have noticed really, it’s right there in the title. New SKU, (almost) certainly new trophy list 👍
Re: Your Horizon Zero Dawn PS4 Progress Will Transition to PS5 Remaster
@Fiendish-Beaver
I hope the same as you do, new trophy list.
Re: Frostpunk 2 Dev Recoups Entire Marketing, Production Budget in Three Days
@NEStalgia
Yes, that’s why I used the words “imagine” and “could”. We are talking about the future. Which is why I said “we need” in my first comment. Just like we are talking about the future when people talk about job loses en masse.
To repeat my first post to you:
“ We don’t need hardware to “go back three generations”, we need ai to speed up software development for AAA games.”
Re: Frostpunk 2 Dev Recoups Entire Marketing, Production Budget in Three Days
@UntilRespawn
We are talking about two different things it seems. Never mind.
Re: Your Horizon Zero Dawn PS4 Progress Will Transition to PS5 Remaster
@Hesse
My position exactly.
Re: Your Horizon Zero Dawn PS4 Progress Will Transition to PS5 Remaster
@Fiendish-Beaver
I only read that you can transfer your game saves over, if it’s a new SKU it could well have another trophy list, and historically that’s what’s happened most of the time. It could be treated as a DLC rather than a new SKU of course, a la Resi 8 VR, but probably not (hopefully).
Re: Your Horizon Zero Dawn PS4 Progress Will Transition to PS5 Remaster
@Fiendish-Beaver
For offline games we always get the choice about carrying over save progress (just delete your save from the console). The question is whether it shares a trophy list, but someone pointed out to me that this never had a PS4 version (amazingly) which, if true, means this should be a different SKU with a new list. Fingers crossed anyway.
Re: Your Horizon Zero Dawn PS4 Progress Will Transition to PS5 Remaster
@Voltan
Isn’t there a native PS5 edition? I played on PS5 but might have been in back compat. If not then there should indeed be a separate list. Happy days!
Re: Dark Fantasy Adventure The Midnight Walk Flares Up on PS5, PSVR2 in Spring
@naruball
I guess it’s because horror just works so darn fantastically in VR. Still, for exploration i’d much rather something like CyubeVR. Something beautiful and uplifting rather than stressful lol. Man I wish VR was viable when Sony were still focused on their Japanese devs.
Re: Your Horizon Zero Dawn PS4 Progress Will Transition to PS5 Remaster
@get2sammyb
But it usually indicates the same list being used.
Re: Your Horizon Zero Dawn PS4 Progress Will Transition to PS5 Remaster
That’s sucks as it probably means the same trophy list / trophy auto pops even if you delete your save first. A big part of my motivation gone for playing the game through again.
Re: Palworld's Release in Japan on Hold Indefinitely Thanks to Nintendo Lawsuit
@CielloArc
And yet it was done before that game. The timing of the patent is also interesting. It’s seems a stretch, but I guess easy to get around by making the capture device a cube, or just a gun shot or something. Don’t see why they should have to though.
Re: Palworld's Release in Japan on Hold Indefinitely Thanks to Nintendo Lawsuit
Not really of interest me, but I do find it strange Nintendo can patent the mechanic of throwing and object to capture a creature, but specially as this predates Pokémon.
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Sony's State of Play for September 2024?
Dragon age looks like turd, and I’m not really into more swordplay 3rd person stuff but those all look top quality anyway. Very happy with the Hitman trilogy in VR (£10 upgrade if you already have it flat), and metro is looking very good in VR too. Would have liked a few more games I’m personally excited about, but I can’t say it wasn’t an objectively good showing.
Re: Dark Fantasy Adventure The Midnight Walk Flares Up on PS5, PSVR2 in Spring
Looks interesting. I just wish there were more lighthearted PSVR2 games with a world I actually would choose to inhabit lol.
(And, obviously, it goes without saying, if available in VR I would have no interest in flat mode)
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered PS5 Is Official, Out 31st October with $10 PS4 to PS5 Upgrade
Well, it was a good game, but I’ve forgotten a lot of plot points which put me off forbidden West. Maybe, if it has a new trophy list (which it should as a remaster) I’ll play through again with better graphics as a refresher before a potential forbidden west playthrough.
Re: Sony Appears to Leak Many Games from State of Play
@OldGamer999
Yeah, I’d normally be the demographic for the pro (have 2 PS5s, PSVR2, Portal etc), but they have given me no reason to get it, because there are no games that require it. Hell, most games still don’t even require the base PS5 and could get by quite well on PS4. Very happy with the amazing VR games (although Sony themselves could make more) and the great Portal flexibility, but Pro has nothing new.
Re: Sony Appears to Leak Many Games from State of Play
@OldGamer999
They’ve been boring since 2018 when they decimated most japanese devs output for their home market. Their only saving grace, the thing that puts them above every other console maker, is VR. And they aren’t exactly committing to that fully.
Re: Sony Appears to Leak Many Games from State of Play
So this means we have 5 PSVR2 games? I’m happy with that.
Re: Frostpunk 2 Dev Recoups Entire Marketing, Production Budget in Three Days
@NEStalgia
Imagine if a dev could just speak their imagination and AI would create it. No need to actually code. Adaptations and alterations done on the fly, by voice, allowing many instances of a team’s imagination to be created and discarded or iterated upon.
The thing holding back more originality is the fact that there is a large time (and so financial) investment to creating and changing things, and that is a risk.
So, yeah, I don’t buy the whole “AI just re-uses what has been done before, output will be generic and boring” argument. AI is a tool, not a master.
Especially as this is what every human being does anyway, reinterpret and iterate from their experience.
Obviously there are lots of process things AI could take over too, but I’m concentrating on your originality concern, as I see it again and again.
Re: State of Play Coming Today, 20+ PS5, PSVR2 Games Included
@Slippship
Yes, me too, lol. I realise now I got confused between the games. Resi 4 is indeed phenomenal.
Re: Frostpunk 2 Dev Recoups Entire Marketing, Production Budget in Three Days
@NEStalgia
We don’t need hardware to “go back three generations”, we need ai to speed up software development for AAA games.
Re: State of Play Coming Today, 20+ PS5, PSVR2 Games Included
@Slippship
Really. What did you play it on?
Re: God of War Ragnarok PC Mod Removes PSN Login Requirement
@Deityjester
That’s a laughable response. Why would you think people care if PC players get to play it, the more successful a game is the more likely it is to get a sequel (I don’t like most Sony games, but that doesn’t mean I want them to fail and disappoint all those who like them).
I think you’re lumping me in with a group of people who, incidentally, barely exist.
Re: God of War Ragnarok PC Mod Removes PSN Login Requirement
Sony should just stop releasing games on PC if this is the general maturity level.
I also don’t really think this is something that’s suitable to advertise publicly.
Re: Don't Nod 'Disappointed' by Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden, Jusant Sales
I’ve never even heard of this game, and I’m on gaming sites every day. Maybe I just wasn’t interested and forgot about it, but I don’t get the impression it was advertised that much.
Re: State of Play Confirmed for Tomorrow, 20+ PS5, PSVR2 Games Included
@Jackpaza0508
Fingers crossed for Resi 4 VR.
Edit: yes, complete mind fart (especially as I’ve already completed Resi 4 VR multiple times - as you can see in my PSN profile). I was thinking about the next Resi Remake releasing (think it’s Zero or Code Veronica). Fingers crossed for a reveal.
Re: State of Play Confirmed for Tomorrow, 20+ PS5, PSVR2 Games Included
VR games coming in thick and fast. With more being added to PS+ every month I can’t keep up. Although I will probably get Townsmen VR while it’s on sale. More options are always appreciated though. Hopefully a few more Japanese, and non-horror focused options.
Re: A Massive 75% of UK Game Sales Were Digital Last Month
Is this number of games, or value? I probably buy more games digitally these days, but spend more physically. £15 is my limit for a digital game, anything more and I know it’ll be cheaper to buy and trade back at CEX. From the title it seems volume. If you did this by value I suspect it would be a lot closer.
Re: God of War Ragnarok PC Review Bombed Over PSN Requirement
Pitiful people. Can’t believe there are so many. Many just buying the game to review bomb it then getting it refunded.
I don’t like the new God of Wars, I tried, but I just find them boring and generic, but I wouldn’t review bomb just because you have to connect to another account, any more than I have when I was made to connect to Ubisoft’s network. These people are just more fanboys who don’t do the same to other companies’ games that require exactly the same thing. If they did I’d respect them a bit more.
Whats more, I hear you don’t even need to connect to PSN to play it. It asks you to, but you can just skip it (I have no direct experience with this, just numerous indirect reports).
If I did get any Sony game on PC however, I wouldn’t even consider not connecting to PSN as I would lose all of the trophy challenges. I also like the fact Sony can boot someone’s account if they find them cheating in a single game, which would theoretically make any cross play much more console like rather than having to endure all of the PC cheaters…maybe that’s another reason these sad people review bomb thinking about it.
Re: Rumour: PS6 Could Span a Console and Handheld Device
@CVCubbington
I think we’ve hit the point where spending more to push games forward isn’t profitable. I don’t think it matters too much what the power of a system is, until AI progresses enough to take all of the grunt work out of game development we’ll be getting games that can be sold across multiple systems and not maxing the best.
Re: Rumour: PS6 Could Span a Console and Handheld Device
@TruestoryYep
I wasn’t even thinking they would try to get a PS6 game on a handheld with its inevitable computing and thermal restrictions. Sony are not turning into Nintendo when they are doing perfectly well in the higher end console space, and this story doesn’t suggest they are. I saw this as a separate handheld market device if it exists. Obviously with some PS4 back compat, some crossover IP and perhaps even cross connection of games on both devices in some fashion, but not a Switch compromise. They’d be foolish to take on Nintendo at their own game.
Re: Rumour: PS6 Could Span a Console and Handheld Device
@Toot1st
Yes, it is. But MS require next gen games on their system be held back through their parity requirement. This then means it will be on PS for multiplatform games. It’s a bit different as it means it’s inevitable, whereas staying on last gen isn’t depending on sales numbers and such, and is likely to reduce as a problem over time whereas the Series S type problem is locked in till next gen. Nobody wants that.
Re: Rumour: PS6 Could Span a Console and Handheld Device
I’ll take a console and handheld, but please no weak-arse Series S type compromise holding next gen back.
Re: New PSVR2 Games Release Dates in 2024
Can someone else do the list for him? I’m a bit busy.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 547
@UltimateOtaku91
Eeek. I’ll leave off in the plucky squire until any known bugs are fixed then.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 547
I’ve got too many games on the go at the minute so I’m going to concentrate on finishing at least one, which this weekend will be Vacation Simulator I think.
Re: Rumour: Concord Cost $400 Million, Sony Believed It Was the 'Future of PlayStation'
“ was designed to be repeatedly revisited, not just in games but in cross-media”
Well, that would explain why it was so “inoffensive” (crap). If true anyway.
Re: Retro PS2 TimeSplitters Titles Outperform PS5, PC Flop Concord in UK Charts
You think the high price of the platform is, all of a sudden, starting to cause Sony problems? Perhaps it’s that the Pro was announced so people are either waiting to buy that, or anticipating a price drop on the base model and holding off buying it? This is what always happens.
Re: The Novelty of PlayStation's PC Ports Does Appear to Be Dampening
Is it really a surprise? I won’t play a sequel without having played the first, so I feel like the available pool of potential customers is lower with a sequel than a new IP. Then you get those who bought the first but didn’t like it enough for the second…
Re: Like a Dragon: Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii Might Be the Series' Most Insane Game Yet, Sailing to PS5, PS4 in February
Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god! This is why I love gaming! This is why I love Yakuza! Best gaming series of all time (apart from Ishin). Day 1!
Re: Dev Behind PS5, PC Flop Concord Could Close as Director Steps Down
This is a shame. By all accounts the devs made a very playable shooter mechanically, surely it was the people who green-lit (or dictated) something so generic that are the issue.
Re: PS5's Commanding Console Position Is Seemingly Insurmountable
@RoomWithaMoose
In fairness, nobody knew MS would not prioritise its own platform above others (in fact, they still could in theory). History actually indicated the opposite in fact. MS could have destroyed the PlayStation platform by strangling it of much of the largest third party content, they just decided not to. For now anyway.
Re: PS5's Commanding Console Position Is Seemingly Insurmountable
What’s crazy is that this would be even worse for MS if it wasn’t for Sonys stock shortages early on.
As you say, it’s obvious why MS are giving up on the Xbox as exclusive platform for selling its content. With PlayStation consumers having a significant library of games already, people are not just going to walk away from the ecosystem.
What I wish MS would do, rather than the subscription rubbish, is push Nintendo. Release a handheld hybrid instead, with more grunt, and price it as a secondary console. With MS’s collection of publishers they might actually get Ninty to do more than release more copies of its same old franchises.
Re: PS Plus Members Get Hundreds of PS5, PS4 Discounts in New PS Store Sale
Townsman VR and max mustard for me. I’ll also be picking up Bloomtown: A Different Story this month, so will be quite busy considering I’m still playing Cult of the Lamb, Vampire Survivors, Monster Train, FM4, Vacation Simulator, Astro Bot, and Kingdom Come Deliverance… usually only play 2 games at a time max, but there is just too much coming out.
Re: Vince Zampella Defends PS5 Pro Price, Says 'It's Actually Not That Bad'
@NEStalgia
There are so many…I just…I don’t know where to start with that
“objectively poor value propositions”
No. Not objective at all, especially when we haven’t seen what it can do. The closest you can get is “objectively expensive compared to old consoles, unless adjusted for inflation”.
“ They're a CONSOLE vendor. By definition their obligation is to cater to the masses.”
Which they do with the PS5. This is an enthusiasts upgrade. That’s all. It doesn’t damage relationships.
“ They released the PS5 about 2 years too early in terms of the tech it needed to have to be a genuine generational leap. ”
Ignoring that the time to move to next gen is mainly dictated by chip manufacturers, also that “genuine generational leap” is subjective (for me just the reduction in loading times is a big deal, more than a few more res’s certainly) sure, Sony could have waited 2 years (or 5 or 10) but they would have given MS too big a lead had they done so. Ironically perhaps a case of MS being too much competition lol.
Re: Vince Zampella Defends PS5 Pro Price, Says 'It's Actually Not That Bad'
@NEStalgia
You say:
“ If they could not build a machine that represents a significant upgrade where the price represents obvious value, they should not have built the console at all. ”
You really are thinking too much into this, and are actually at risk of descending into hyperbole. Also, what does it hurt you if others can afford to get a more powerful system and think it’s good value to them? You are a PC gamer, you should be used to that 🤷♂️
I’ll refer you to my first comment:
“ The reason this is £700 is because people will pay it. If they wouldn’t, it would either be marginally cheaper or it just wouldn’t exist.”
Costs have gone up so the price goes up, if Sony didn’t think people would pay the price they wouldn’t make it. It’s not complicated.
They are under no obligation to cater to the masses, they can release a niche device if they want and it causes no harm. The fact top end PC GPUs exist doesn’t mean the lower level market is destroyed, just like releasing this doesn’t mean the base PS5 market will not be catered to. It will still be the biggest market. Let’s just let people enjoy what they want without saying it shouldn’t be made.
Also, the PS5 is not a “terrible console” going purely by capability at release benchmarked against high end PCs, it is actually better than the PS4 at release by quite a significant margin. The problem is the economy has meant people didn’t switch and devs had to maintain support for PS4.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth's Huge PS5 Pro Enhancements Are a 'Vast Improvement'
Ok, in fairness, side by side, the base PS5 looks like it’s smeared n Vaseline and has lots more blurring in movement. I’m still happy to play the next few AAA games like this though and wait on the PS6
Re: PS5 Exclusives Final Fantasy 16, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Failed to Meet Expectations
They always do this. It seems if every game they release doesn’t meet the sales forecasted then maybe their sales forecasts are overly optimistic.
Also, what’s going on with all these ads making the screen hop around like an epileptic jumping bean?
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn's PS5, PC Remaster Is Very Much the Real Deal
No interest in this. Roll on AI I say, we need dev cycles for new games to shorten so there is less temptation to remaster already made games every 5-10 years.