People who’s job is to play and review games are shocked that normal working class people with normal jobs aren’t all sitting there at 4pm playing GOW Ragnarok..
This article is nothing but sensationalist jargon.
@tameshiyaku I agree that the main reason this failed was being generic/releasing into an oversaturated market.
But let’s not pretend that outrage right wing brain rot videos weren’t made in the dozens all using the same few screenshots of one character with the words “WOKE TRASH” in the thumbnail.
@Fishmasterflex96 it’ll add some extra numbers but it won’t make them become successes like they want lmao, that did a great job for their other titles that were also on PC
FF16 has had a peak of 13.9k on steam, FF7 Remake had a peak of around 13.5k.
This doesn’t equate to success either and we all know Xbox players do not buy RPGs en masse that aren’t from Bethesda and even those aren’t bought anymore with Gamepass.
So good luck getting those extra sales Square! Wonder how long till they blame the economic climate and delve into Web 3 shenanigans.
@Almost_Ghostly next gen experience == open world?
Some of the best experiences in every generation have been linear, but you can still provide something new within that or push the level of said experience to deliver something next level.
@nessisonett I saw the “wrap it up” tweet from them, hilarious stuff lmao
Fans will always be fans and defend it, but I don’t think any developer (who isn’t an smaller developer trying to garner support for their projects from such fans) is gonna actually defend something, or if they do, do it without reason.
It’s funny as some titles look better where as others look a bit meh, but I’ll happily wait to see more seeing as the unit itself is still a few months out more or less.
@KillerBoy As you definitely know more about game development than the folks who actually work on the game buddy, the price of PS5 Pro is ridiculous but let’s not be so naive and frankly idiotic over undermining the upgrades the console offers.
Now whether it’s a £700 upgrade is up to you, but stop being an armchair dev, it’s cringe.
So if one platformer, which is a niche genre these days outside of the recognised brands like Mario (that was also made on a small budget with a small team) fails, then that for you justifies Sony to chase live service cash grabs which have been also proven failures only with a highly inflated cost instead (£200/300m Concord)
@Pranwell I won’t go as far as to call any of them vile, they seem like reasonable lads (albeit a bit PC biased in the case of Alex) but biases are normal in all industries no matter how hard you try to not show it.
It’s more a perception problem of gaming public taking everything they say as factual.
Already John has been talking in a much more positive manner about the Pro on Twitter so I’m guessing that after they have hands on time with the unit the mood on the console from them will change for the better.
Just sold my PSVR2 funnily enough, it’s a great piece of tech but the first party support is so dire right now, I’ll be hoping that another price drop comes further down the line once this wireless model drops (if it’s real).
Can we stop taking Digital Foundry as gospel please?
These are the same chaps (as smart as they are) who said Spider-Man 2018 would never run at 60fps on PS5, and said that 60fps on this generation of consoles would be a dream at best.
They also said the Xbox Series X would obliterate the PS5 performance wise and that the TFLOP number was the be or end all of this whole generation.
0/3 so far there.
Rockstar have been releasing 60fps remasters all generation so far, they understand the desire for it, these are the same wizards who got GTAV on the dogwater internals of Xbox 360/PS3.
RDR2 runs at PS4 Pro settings on PS5 (jailbroken) at a locked 60fps, I think it wouldn’t be out the realm of possibility that even the PS5/XSX get some kind of performance mode (albeit maybe a 40fps limit or a blurry FSR2 job)
@OldGamer999 I wish I knew why mate, only reasoning is corporate schtick, 2TB of SSD Storage is cheaper than a big CPU upgrade, looks better on the box and has better profit margins.
It’ll probably be a 40fps mode knowing the CPU constraints.
Regardless it’ll still be the best resolution and ray tracing/visuals presets for a year minimum (till the PC Port comes) so it’ll still have a blinder marketing wise.
@mkr I think the price is an absolute joke, and I can’t stand it at all, but I can’t lie have to say that I can and probably will get this console because I’m lucky enough to have disposable income with the work I do to get one, but I still think the price is damn near predatory especially with the £99.99 disc drive add on.
I guess there’s just a balance, if anyone was expecting it to be £499.99 then they were never going to be happy and this pro model was never for them in the first place.
I genuinely think it would’ve went down a lot better if they just included the disc drive with the bloody thing.
Even £720 albeit a big chunk of cash would’ve felt ever so slightly fairer than a whopping £700 and then demanding that anyone who still wants a “meagre” disc drive to buy the totally optional £100 add on is just a disgrace.
@get2sammyb Still doesn’t make this any less clickbaity of a thumbnail does it?
Also some of the wording in the disc drive article was downright ridiculous, making the add on sound like a quirky little bonus and not an awful sign for the future ahead of us with digital.
@Anti-Matter Sony are still doing these kinda games with Horizon LEGO Adventures though no? And Sackboy - A Big Adventure on launch.
There’s a few swords and guns in Astro Bot but this is no different to LEGO Lord Of The Rings or LEGO Marvel Superheroes, and unlike those two games, the guns just seem to shoot darts from animations I’ve seen, and the swords aren’t usable at all so far.
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Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Sony's State of Play for September 2024?
PHENOMENAL FOR GHOST OF YOTEI ALONE
SONY ARE BACK
Re: Rumour: Concord Cost $400 Million, Sony Believed It Was the 'Future of PlayStation'
@8bit4Life Not true as even Disney Star Wars era made some money at first lmao
Re: Rumour: Concord Cost $400 Million, Sony Believed It Was the 'Future of PlayStation'
I am a huge Concord critic but this is not true lmao
400 million dollars WITHOUT the price of acquiring Firewalk included in that figure?
Yeah that’s absolute baloney, I’d say it’s probably what every other insider said, 200m.
Re: The Novelty of PlayStation's PC Ports Does Appear to Be Dampening
People who’s job is to play and review games are shocked that normal working class people with normal jobs aren’t all sitting there at 4pm playing GOW Ragnarok..
This article is nothing but sensationalist jargon.
Re: Concord Dev Could Close After Director of PS5, PC Disaster Steps Down
@tameshiyaku I agree that the main reason this failed was being generic/releasing into an oversaturated market.
But let’s not pretend that outrage right wing brain rot videos weren’t made in the dozens all using the same few screenshots of one character with the words “WOKE TRASH” in the thumbnail.
Re: Like a Dragon: Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii Might Be the Series' Most Insane Game Yet, Sailing to PS5, PS4 in February
NO TURN BASED YESSSS DAY ONE
Re: Jaw-Dropping 30th Anniversary PS5 Pro Console and Accessories Will Bankrupt You
Consoles I don’t care about but the controller? BEAUTIFUL STUFF.
If stocks aren’t insanely low I may cop a controller.
Re: PS5 Exclusives Final Fantasy 16, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Failed to Meet Expectations
@Fishmasterflex96 it’ll add some extra numbers but it won’t make them become successes like they want lmao, that did a great job for their other titles that were also on PC
Re: PS5 Exclusives Final Fantasy 16, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Failed to Meet Expectations
FF16 has had a peak of 13.9k on steam, FF7 Remake had a peak of around 13.5k.
This doesn’t equate to success either and we all know Xbox players do not buy RPGs en masse that aren’t from Bethesda and even those aren’t bought anymore with Gamepass.
So good luck getting those extra sales Square! Wonder how long till they blame the economic climate and delve into Web 3 shenanigans.
Re: Big Dragon's Dogma 2 Patch 2.01 Out Now on PS5, Boosts Performance, Balances Vocations
Just bought my physical version for £28 in anticipation of the PS5 Pro patch!
Re: Final Fantasy 16 Is F**cked and PS5's New Firmware Is to Blame
Also had issues on Death Stranding and Jedi Survivor.
Some random coder is about to get hell from their boss.
Re: Preview: Unknown 9 Awakening Plays Like a Long Lost PS3 Remaster on PS5, PS4
@Lup “not a diss towards the devs but rather a general statement”
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Re: Preview: Unknown 9 Awakening Plays Like a Long Lost PS3 Remaster on PS5, PS4
@Almost_Ghostly next gen experience == open world?
Some of the best experiences in every generation have been linear, but you can still provide something new within that or push the level of said experience to deliver something next level.
The game genre doesn’t dictate that here.
Re: PS5 Pro's Alan Wake 2 Upgrades Will Be a 'Pleasant Surprise'
@nessisonett I saw the “wrap it up” tweet from them, hilarious stuff lmao
Fans will always be fans and defend it, but I don’t think any developer (who isn’t an smaller developer trying to garner support for their projects from such fans) is gonna actually defend something, or if they do, do it without reason.
It’s funny as some titles look better where as others look a bit meh, but I’ll happily wait to see more seeing as the unit itself is still a few months out more or less.
Re: Preview: Unknown 9 Awakening Plays Like a Long Lost PS3 Remaster on PS5, PS4
I mean this in the nicest way possible and not a diss towards the devs but rather a general statement.
I’d much rather we see “PS5 era adventures” on the console I was promised such experiences on back in 2020 rather than “PS3 era”.
I can just dust off the old Slim console if that’s what is on offer this generation.
Re: PS5 Pro's Alan Wake 2 Upgrades Will Be a 'Pleasant Surprise'
@nessisonett Developers shilling? Or do you mean the price defenders 😭
Re: PS5 Pro's Alan Wake 2 Upgrades Will Be a 'Pleasant Surprise'
@KillerBoy As you definitely know more about game development than the folks who actually work on the game buddy, the price of PS5 Pro is ridiculous but let’s not be so naive and frankly idiotic over undermining the upgrades the console offers.
Now whether it’s a £700 upgrade is up to you, but stop being an armchair dev, it’s cringe.
Re: Mini Review: Funko Fusion (PS5) - Bland, Cryptic Nostalgia Bait Lacks LEGO's Charm
This game is gonna go so hard when it’s in the ASDA bargain bin for £5
Worth the price of admission (a fiver) for Hot Fuzz alone
Re: Play FC 25 for £1 / $1 with New EA Play Offer
@Cherip-the-Ripper NUMERO UNO.
Re: Play FC 25 for £1 / $1 with New EA Play Offer
@roe BIG ROB DICKIE AT THE BACKKKK
Re: Play FC 25 for £1 / $1 with New EA Play Offer
£1 to get to play as the best player in the Premier League in Cold Palmer 😉
Bargain 🍻
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Astro Bot Barely Registers at Retail, PS5 Numbers Plummet After Price Hike
@UltimateOtaku91
So if one platformer, which is a niche genre these days outside of the recognised brands like Mario (that was also made on a small budget with a small team) fails, then that for you justifies Sony to chase live service cash grabs which have been also proven failures only with a highly inflated cost instead (£200/300m Concord)
Makes perfect sense chap!
Re: PS5 Pro Probably Won't Run GTA 6 at 4K 60FPS, Tech Expert Claims
@Pranwell I won’t go as far as to call any of them vile, they seem like reasonable lads (albeit a bit PC biased in the case of Alex) but biases are normal in all industries no matter how hard you try to not show it.
It’s more a perception problem of gaming public taking everything they say as factual.
Already John has been talking in a much more positive manner about the Pro on Twitter so I’m guessing that after they have hands on time with the unit the mood on the console from them will change for the better.
Re: PS5 Fans Think Sony's Accidentally Leaked a Wireless PSVR2 Headset
Just sold my PSVR2 funnily enough, it’s a great piece of tech but the first party support is so dire right now, I’ll be hoping that another price drop comes further down the line once this wireless model drops (if it’s real).
Re: PS5 Pro Probably Won't Run GTA 6 at 4K 60FPS, Tech Expert Claims
@OldGamer999 I was always thinking a £589 base with £650 for the disc, and that was my worst case scenario 😭
Re: PS5 Pro Probably Won't Run GTA 6 at 4K 60FPS, Tech Expert Claims
Can we stop taking Digital Foundry as gospel please?
These are the same chaps (as smart as they are) who said Spider-Man 2018 would never run at 60fps on PS5, and said that 60fps on this generation of consoles would be a dream at best.
They also said the Xbox Series X would obliterate the PS5 performance wise and that the TFLOP number was the be or end all of this whole generation.
0/3 so far there.
Rockstar have been releasing 60fps remasters all generation so far, they understand the desire for it, these are the same wizards who got GTAV on the dogwater internals of Xbox 360/PS3.
RDR2 runs at PS4 Pro settings on PS5 (jailbroken) at a locked 60fps, I think it wouldn’t be out the realm of possibility that even the PS5/XSX get some kind of performance mode (albeit maybe a 40fps limit or a blurry FSR2 job)
Re: PS5 Pro Probably Won't Run GTA 6 at 4K 60FPS, Tech Expert Claims
@OldGamer999 I wish I knew why mate, only reasoning is corporate schtick, 2TB of SSD Storage is cheaper than a big CPU upgrade, looks better on the box and has better profit margins.
Re: PS5 Pro Probably Won't Run GTA 6 at 4K 60FPS, Tech Expert Claims
It’ll probably be a 40fps mode knowing the CPU constraints.
Regardless it’ll still be the best resolution and ray tracing/visuals presets for a year minimum (till the PC Port comes) so it’ll still have a blinder marketing wise.
Re: PS5 Pro Reveal Is Already Sony's Most Disliked Console Announcement
@PerpetualBoredom damn straight lmao
Re: Potionomics: Masterwork Edition Opens Up Shop on PS5 in October 2024
Now this is what the PS5 Pro was made for.
Re: This May Be the Most Pointless Boxed PS5 Game Ever
#2 behind Concord actually.
Re: Poll: Would You Buy PS5 Pro If It Was Cheaper?
@mkr I think the price is an absolute joke, and I can’t stand it at all, but I can’t lie have to say that I can and probably will get this console because I’m lucky enough to have disposable income with the work I do to get one, but I still think the price is damn near predatory especially with the £99.99 disc drive add on.
I guess there’s just a balance, if anyone was expecting it to be £499.99 then they were never going to be happy and this pro model was never for them in the first place.
Re: Poll: Would You Buy PS5 Pro If It Was Cheaper?
Two things can be right.
£700 without a disc drive is insanity, but so is trying to act as if Sony owe you a £499 premium pro option of a console lmao
Re: PS5 Pro Pre-Orders Will Be Exclusive to PS Direct for Two Weeks
Yeah this is a sensible decision out of all the chaos of yesterday.
This is the best way to combat scalpers and also gives retailers more time to get as many units as possible to have available.
Rather this than the bloodbath we had in 2020.
Re: PS5 Pro Reveal Is Already Sony's Most Disliked Console Announcement
With my 6 YouTube accounts I added 3 likes and 3 dislikes to keep it perfectly balanced.
Re: Prospective PS5 Pro Buyers Cause Surge in Disc Drive Sales
@Czar_Khastik that’s about £17 more than we pay here in the UK
Re: 'It Makes Sense Why the PS5 Pro Price Is So High,' Say Tech Experts
I genuinely think it would’ve went down a lot better if they just included the disc drive with the bloody thing.
Even £720 albeit a big chunk of cash would’ve felt ever so slightly fairer than a whopping £700 and then demanding that anyone who still wants a “meagre” disc drive to buy the totally optional £100 add on is just a disgrace.
Re: Sony to Start Selling Refurbished PS5 Consoles
THE PRICE CUT FINALLY CAME WHO SAID SONY ARE ARROGANT AGAIN!!!! /s
Re: 'It Felt Like Putting New Glasses On,' Claims First PS5 Pro Hands On
@get2sammyb Still doesn’t make this any less clickbaity of a thumbnail does it?
Also some of the wording in the disc drive article was downright ridiculous, making the add on sound like a quirky little bonus and not an awful sign for the future ahead of us with digital.
Re: 'It Felt Like Putting New Glasses On,' Claims First PS5 Pro Hands On
Push Square making fake click bait level images to make the PS5 Pro seem justified for it’s price is something hilarious indeed.
Re: 'It Felt Like Putting New Glasses On,' Claims First PS5 Pro Hands On
Feels like Execs at Sony probably need new glasses after that price tag decision.
Re: In Case You Missed It, PS5 Pro Has a 2TB SSD Included
In case you missed it! The PS5 Pro doesn’t come with a vertical stand and wants to bleed your wallet dry by charging you for unneeded add-ons!
Re: Gallery: PS5 Pro Is Looking Sleek in These Official Shots
Looks oddly enough like a shredder which makes sense considering how much money you throw down the drain when you buy it!
Re: Don't Worry, You Can Add an Ultra HD Disc Drive to PS5 Pro
@Vaako007 “best toys in the hobby”
Re: Don't Worry, You Can Add an Ultra HD Disc Drive to PS5 Pro
All for the low low price of £820 if you want a vertical stand!
I’m looking forward to the soapbox saying this is a good deal when judging by inflation!
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
@Bamila 8x the detail!
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
Looks incredible and totally worth the doubling of price!
Re: Poll: Are You Sold on PS5 Pro?
£700 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Re: Astro Bot PS5 Sales 'Aren't Huge' in UK, But There's Still Hope
Got my copy for £50, completed it and traded it in today for £38, bargain imo!
Re: Sony: It's Massively Important PS Studios Develops Games in Various Genres
@Anti-Matter Sony are still doing these kinda games with Horizon LEGO Adventures though no? And Sackboy - A Big Adventure on launch.
There’s a few swords and guns in Astro Bot but this is no different to LEGO Lord Of The Rings or LEGO Marvel Superheroes, and unlike those two games, the guns just seem to shoot darts from animations I’ve seen, and the swords aren’t usable at all so far.