And push Square continues to shill for the overpriced Hardware.
All that aside though I must admit in the case of Final Fantasy rebirth specifically, I actually did not pick it up even though I wanted to, simply because of that demo and how poorly it looked and how much everyone was glossing over the fact that image quality was so much worse than the first remake. I genuinely hope that they would patch it to make it run better just as I hoped for Dragon's Dogma 2 however it became clear when the pro rumors started to become more loud that they were going to try and pedal the Pros worth with updating games like those two and a few others that basically released completely unpolished rather than have a new software to highlight it.
However, there is no freaking way that I care enough about a few frames more or less FSR native resolution based blurriness to spend $700, or whatever the eventual scalper price is going to be for the next 6 months, on mid Gen refresh console. Especially in the terms of those two games amongst others because it is not a matter of them not being able to reach a better potential on the base PS5 it is strictly a matter of them releasing it before it was technically optimized and Polished and relying far too heavily on doing even less of that with things like the terrible FSR 2 uspcaling.
So as much as I still want to play rebirth at some point, I'm just waiting until it's on sale now. I could tell a couple months ago with the fact that no real sales and/or meaningful performance related patches really ever came, that a pro related scheme was in the works. As these devs and publishers likely expect to see a sales boost on the software side for some of these games that released in completely technically inferior state thanks to the release of the overpriced pro.
Not a chance, the price point alone makes these two refreshes not comparable.
Initially most of their sales will come from scalpers and those people that will just waste money no matter what. However, the rest of us that were probably interested if it was around the 500, 550 price point Max 6 with disc, it ain't happening we're not that stupid.
It won't get anywhere near 18 mill with that price, the modest improvements, and the lack of additional factors like 4k( for ps4 pro).
Insanity. Sony is so out of touch. Who thought that this presentation was a good idea. You're going to try and sell me on a $700 console with Demon Souls and the last of us to a PS4 game are you f****** kidding me. Oh wait I can have clearer back ground assets like the crowd in the bleachers on the first level of Ratchet and Clank or slightly better looking trees in Spider-Man 2?! Are you serious right now? 60 fps for games I already beat and many of which are several years old or more? Lol nahhh.
Very few people are buying this console to replay these old games that most have completed. The decision to green light revealing this with no new game reveal fully utilizing the hardware or even just a teaser is insanity.
Aside from all that, the price point is just ridiculous. you know they're just fishing again,.... they're going to do the same s*** they did with psvr 2, and honestly all add'l hardware this Gen, and wait until all the few hundred thousand whales and scalpers buy it at the overpriced nonsense before they make it priced what it should be and what it's actually worth if they even ever do that.
At this price without a disk drive ($779.98 total), you aren't even getting people that have been holding off on migrating to this generation to bite. Should have dropped the base ps5 price and make this priced as it should be.
This just doesn't make sense. Sony's leadership is again, just so out of touch. This feels like the most mismanaged generation they've ever had.
It's a very niche title despite it being a great game. I don't understand how so many of you don't seem to be able to rationalize that a 9 hour, child like in it's simplicity and tone, platformer may not sell massively.
This isn't the Nintendo switch. Despite the enthusiast nostalgia, it just doesn't have massive appeal just like the next Lego game doesn't. It still remains a great game for what it is, it just isn't going to be a massive blockbuster in terms of sales.
If this is overpriced and not announced along dedicated software, it won't sell well.
Especially with the improvements totally bypassing the cpu which will now actually be slower. The machine learning Could be good but Also could be terrible. Most games are using FSR for console and that IS In it's third iteration and still is absolute garbage visually. Yet devs are using it as a crutch to expedite optomization by having native resolutions at sub 720p and often way lower than that. I highly doubt Sony's will be better at launch.
I personally wouldn't spend more than 500 in it. In this economic climate with price gouging destroying consumer confidence, they would be far smarter to lower the base model ps5 price and price this as the Ps5 was at release.
They won't do that likely, as in all reality the run on the original at release is probably informing their expectations for this. However if it's anywhere 600ish and beyond you are only roping in those that will get it regardless which is absolutely a smaller pool.
Curious you really glossed over the fact that the game's framerate tanks horribly in the performance mode. With even drops into the 30s during the swarm combat sections which are essentially the core gameplay loop.
Apparently the XboxX is significantly better in the taxing swarm parts, but in general the performance mode is not near locked 60 and extremely Subpar on ps5.
Sounds like this is just better off played at 30fps on PS5.
@riceNpea I find it Bizarre that we continue to cite hell divers 2 as An example of a live service success. It isn't. It was an intitial sales success that exceeded expectations.
We continue to reference this game Over and over again despite the reality that that if the pc player count is any indication, which it almost always is to some degree, then Hell Divers 2 has lost 95% of its player base in just 7 months.
It has been largely Mismanaged since release and had it not had a price tag It for entry it would be considered a live service failure just like the many others that have flopped in the last two years. In fact I would say that helldivers too is a prime example of what Sony was hoping would occur with concord and a prime reason why they chose to charge an initial price for the game. While Concord was an immediate failure, Hell Divers 2 has failed to stop the hemorrhaging of players in just over half a year of its live service lifetime.
Such a ridiculous Reach to equate a few add-ons to market an upcoming new iteration of. The ip as live service. We all know what we are referring to when we air our distaste for the model. I don't know why you are reaching and schilling for the model in the way you are, as I'm positive you know as well what the term is referring to in the minds of the gamer and the greed driven investors that keep trying to push it.
I actually agree with the dude here, but whining about it while spending the better part of a decade squashing most of the ip you do have, pumping put repetitive sequels and chasing trends will do that to you. A lot of the Ips you guys are referencing above are very niche or already somewhat recently used. Aside from that this is just a corporate goon. He doesn't mean IP to bring a diverse portfolio of games to us. He means major IPs to milk for additional profit in a multitude of ways. The bottom line Sony has recently abandoned Ed what got them to the level of success they were at because of the fictitious endless growth model these goons and their investors demand.
Ps:
Bring back socom. (although a multi-player format that existed during the time of socom and many other beloved platforms cannot exist with the greatness they once did, with the onset of live service predation models being the parasite it is in the multi-player space).
Yeah I really don't Like this trend of an early access premium, however it's something I can just avoid it for the slimey thing that it is. People will pay it however, and that's why they do this and any of the additional $ extraction schemes.
This got me thinking though: I wonder how much of the population that is buying into these Early Access premiums are actually streamers and content creators or whatever they want to call themselves that have an incentive to be able to get their videos out earliest. Like what if this is just a way that devs and Publishers formulated a targeted plan to nickel and dime that crowd(in addition to reg gamers willing to fork it over), because they know that they'll pay to get stream views and review videos out because it equates to more views from the masses that are eagerly awaiting the release and seek out that type of release window content.
Incredibly stupid. Watch dumbed down idiotic acting with 99% green screen nonsense.
Just like Pokémon, Mario, etc. Investors don't even have to try when milking these major IPs because they know they will make a profit because of the mindless fanatics that make up those fan bases.
@Markatron84 exactly. It really only bothers them so much as they are told to be bothered by those that brainwash them with divisive left/right political nonsense.
@Anguspuss a 7 is not Awesome, and this site gave it the same. Believe me I think live service games are trash, however this whole narrative that you are really pushing is political and you know it
@Anguspuss ign never said it was awesome. Nearly Every outlet said it was generic drivel with good shooting mechanics that could be fun had the game and asset design not been so subpar and late to the trend chasing.
You and many only say these things because it feeds a false narrative of an agenda that has been completely made up to influence the ignorant politically and fan the flames of hate speech that permeates those lulled into its lies.
That being said it's no denying that this is literally the biggest flop in gaming history
@trev666 @Gravytrain I'm not one to defend push square very often and especially not this reviewer, however the suggestion that this is an anomoly review is literally false based on the data. There are at least eight 5 or 6 reviews thus far with only 20 posted. That's nearly half of the reviews ews suggesting the game is mediocre. The remaining are much higher. When the divide is this noticeable history tends to prove that the reality is usually that the game is mid at best.
Either way when 5s are at play and the average is 69, you have to read several opinions and take gameplay and demos into account, as it's clearly got significant negatives for some, yet they may not be negative for you.
for most this game is going to be pretty garbo, although with how little these things are games and how Niche the genre and fan base is for this B movie cosplay, I suspect those folks have beergoggles on in terms of their opinions of another opportunity for such.
@Widey85 interesting, this article was months ago! So this is genuinely a non story aside from getting more details as to why it's delayed/canceled.
All that aside, I'm looking forward to this one and think it looks far more promising than outlaws, ac, and even wukong in it's current state and shortcomings. Glad I passed on them at fp.
This will likely be my next game launch window buy.
@Craigsouthern just dance? I was under the impression massive made the division and the newer avatar game.
The problem is that they had to work within the game design philosophy/framework and toolsets provided by Ubisoft, which are very shallow,, repetitive anti strong narrative, coupled with an aging engine and horrible AI.
However, it's baffling however that massive whom have made strong cover based shooting mechanics in the past coupled with Ubisoft who have built an empire on stealth gameplay produced a game that does both of these worse than any other game in their respective portfolios.
Looking forward to Enotria and space marine. Not interested in much else unless veilguard is more than what it appears to be be. Which so far seems like a very linear corridor into combat arena design.
Astrobot is definitely not my thing and for all the hype it feels like an obvious and weak distraction for how little Sony has put out or even communicated on this year. I get it, it's a solid gimmicky platformer, advert and nostalgia piece wrapped into one. Just not my thing at full price, as I know for me, the loop will grow repetitive and tired after a dozen stages or so. I used to love platformers like this but I prefer them in the vein of an open area design like jak and Dax to foster exploration, and not just challenge gimmick stages like a crash band.
Insanity that Space Marine 2 is thrown into the extra section when by the looks of previews it's going to be a game of the year contender.
Zero interest in a remake that doesn't even attempt to do more than the bare minimum. It's sad that the media is framing reusing the same 20 year old animations, assets, voice, etc as a "faithful remake."
when let's be honest here, that's a lazy remake at best and in all reality just a remaster.
Sony basically doesn't market anything anymore so that's not a. Really strong counterpoint to the rumor. Sure deathloop was pushed years ago, however in the last few years they have basically sat back and put as little effort into. Marketing, gamer and media engagement as a whole.
Whatever is going on with them internally is not great at best and in all reality it feels like The most anti gamer, greed driven, and complacent time in the entire playstation history.
It makes zero sense that this game has issues on the more powerful and "pc like architecture" in the series x. totally can understand it being unplayable on the S though, As it runs with downgrades and technical issues on the PS5, and the dev has admitted getting better performance in patches is a ways off in possibility. Xbox has already walked back the "need to run on x and s," policy in previous releases, so it's hard to believe they wouldn't do so with a title like Wukong that had a lot of hype, and was clearly going to be visually heavy performance wise.
The real reason this is happening all over the place is the fact the corporate overlords dictating the direction and longevity of these projects aren't gamers and are funding them to coax over player numbers from the core sector of gatcha and live service addicts to their new products. Despite the increasing database of evidence that the ship of getting a successful amount of that market share has sailed.
The other major issue is the fact that those addicts aren't gamers plain and simple. They are a completely different beast altogether and should be considered as such.
Trying to present your scheme as a game to gamers just isn't going to work when they aren't the target audience and what they are peddling is no game. Most of us see this garbage for what it is and won't be fooled.
For that pot of gold of lost souls sucked into these things;. Its like trying to get an addict to fundamentally change from a Drug they are already addicted to, toward another drug that does the exact same thing but is a different color. Despite the first drug having been used for so long and the receptors in the brain so used to it for the responses it's now a crutch for after years of use.
Just look at the very few that have managed to garner a decent release window audience and be considered successes on sites like this. Ie hell divers, The Finals, The First Descendant, palworld. The player Numbers have completely dropped off a cliff as the addicts go back to there drug of choice, or actual gamers having been lured to try the new trending drug due to peer pressure. All. The while Bg3 a single Player GAME that came before them all has a higher daily engagement now than they do a couple Months after their releases. Hopefully games like Wukong show these scumbags that making actual games can still be massive financial Successes.
It's just not gonna happen for the vast majority of these new drugs being peddled, Oops I mean games, nope wrong again,... Corporate schemes.
I'm all in on this one. Lies of p was great, and in many ways a step above the aging bones of the "copy and paste roughly the same unchanged thing with a modestly different coat of paint" formula that fromsoft has been milking for 15 years.
100% a wait for sale. Played far too mamy Ubi games at full price to experience the same repetition and lack of depth boredom before completing it. I k ow better now.. They are great mindless easy games for about half of retail or less. They unfortunately hold no value beyond that for me with how homogeneous, watered down, and Formulaic their designs have become.
Looking forward to the guaranteed price drop in 6 months or so though! 👍
They apparently nailed the star wars esthetic, and the story is OK enough despite the writing.
Sounds like they really flubbed the combat Traversal and stealth with oversimplification, garbage Ubisoft enemy AI, vastly lower visual npc models and typical repetition boredom that plagues nearly every UBI game due to a lack of depth, despite this being shorter for them. In addition, poor optomization, bugs and possible memory issues. Hard pass.
I've learned that Ubisoft targets the same formula regardless of the skin the game is wearing and it almost always grows stale and remains in a safe generic area. I think they know this as well, as they more than any other major publisher, throw their games on sale soonest after release. For me that has amounted to a never paying full price for their games after having been burnt on not facing this fact and jumping in at full price far too many times.
We already knew this game had competent shooting mechanics. It's still a generic attempt and massive failure merely because nobody wanted this. That's it, end of story.
600ish peak pc players on day one and after (redfall had 10 times that and suicide squad over 20 times that)?!
Sony needs a much more comprehensive change in leadership. This game should have been canned a long long time ago, and had they stopped their complete ghosting of the player base anytime in the last several years, they would have even more so seen that very obvious writing on the wall for this project. Even that aside, how do you not see the responses and lack of engagement to the beta as a clear signal that this isn't it in its current form.
Granted money would have been lost for sure. However riding this out to release with all the marketing, all the additional dev payroll is just complete Mismanagement and bad business as well as another toxic attempt at predation on the gaming community following the putrid smell of greed wafting from the few successful schemes still operational. Over a hundred mill wasted here, nearly 4 bill on Bungie.......
This is exactly one of the many reasons that Sony's ridiculous 'hide everything until the release window' policy is just idiocy. As is there incessant aims to chase endless growth with as little creativity and effort possible.
Just don't buy into this SH*T, nor make excuses for it. There is a myriad of warnings that Sony and the developer could have paid attention to over the last few years that would have informed them that this was not going to work out.
Jesus this is a massive flop. 600ish peak pc players on day one (redfall had 10 times that and suicide squad over 20 times that)?!
Sony needs a much more comprehensive change in leadership. This game should have been canned a long long time ago, and had they stopped their complete ghosting of the player base anytime in the last several years, they would have even more so seen that very obvious writing on the wall for this project.
Granted money would have been lost for sure. However riding this out to release with all the marketing, all the additional dev payroll is just complete Mismanagement and bad business as well as another toxic attempt at predation on the gaming community following the putrid smell of greed wafting from the few successful schemes still operational. Over a hundred mill wasted here, nearly 4 bill on Bungie.......
This is exactly one of the many reasons that Sony's ridiculous 'hide everything until the release window' policy is just idiocy. As is there incessant aims to chase endless growth with as little creativity and effort possible.
Definitely a sale item for me specifically due to the poor level design and input latency which Is something I notice and get pulled out of the fun zone when it is a consistent thing.
It's kind of a bummer they didnt better design the levels and instead just used invisible walls. It's another immersion breaker.
Sounds like it will be good, simple fun when it's at a price point that works for me with those shortcomings.
@Northern_munkey agreed. Considering how long they milked the monetization in that it makes me wonder if they will try some sort of version of that again with this. I hope not though, as it looks like it could be fun!
This is exactly why I'm waiting on it. Input lag is my biggest gaming pet peave. Appreciate all that chimed in now realizing they've experienced it or not noticed it.
I have a feeling I will.
I actually don't think they will be able to Make the game run any better at the framerate targeted in performance mode if they had to use frame Gen to Even get there. It was never meant to be used this way and suggests the cuts would have to Be even more massive to the visuals to even remotely come close to 60, and with FSR in play that's just not something I want to pay full price for as FSR is consistently a very poor reconstruction option in terms of. Visuals.
It is understandable that people are having fun with it, however it does make sense why they didnt give out ps5 codes pre-Launch. they knew this was a very handicapped version of the game.
I only ask because I was about to pull the trigger on it but after that report I'm hesitant.. As I'm super sensitive to control input lag and it's something that can really annoy and spoil an experience when I'm messing with sensitivity controls more than playing the game.
I may just jump in and give it a go. Do you think it could use a few. More patches before playing? Although doing that with Dragons Dogma 2 would have been pointless as those technical issues have never been addressed meaningfully lol, but ironically they didn't Bother Me Much.
According to DF, The input latency when playing in performance mode (the only just OK but has problems mode), is bad. Can people that play this and aren't wearing rose tinted glasses confirm this?
Aside from visuals if the input lag is bad in the only sometimes smooth mode, it's definitely a wait for me in a. Fast paced combat game like this.
Such a ridicous investment. Sony has put too many out of touch idiots in positions they shouldn't be in. I get it, corporations are in it to make money and do so with max potential returns.
However, if you don't at least sprinkle people into the corporate pyramid that actually enjoy gaming and keep an ear to the player base you get the losses Sony is going to continue to face with Destiny, Concord, factions, and any other bad decision we still haven't heard of, beyond effectively ghosting your fan base for an entire generation thus far.
How development of this generic project was allowed to continue, and so late in the game for such a Saturated genre and make the decision to charge $40 is proof enough that there are real problems at sony and it extends far beyond Jim Ryans legacy.
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Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth 'Hugely Improved' on PS5 Pro, a 'Night and Day' Difference
And push Square continues to shill for the overpriced Hardware.
All that aside though I must admit in the case of Final Fantasy rebirth specifically, I actually did not pick it up even though I wanted to, simply because of that demo and how poorly it looked and how much everyone was glossing over the fact that image quality was so much worse than the first remake. I genuinely hope that they would patch it to make it run better just as I hoped for Dragon's Dogma 2 however it became clear when the pro rumors started to become more loud that they were going to try and pedal the Pros worth with updating games like those two and a few others that basically released completely unpolished rather than have a new software to highlight it.
However, there is no freaking way that I care enough about a few frames more or less FSR native resolution based blurriness to spend $700, or whatever the eventual scalper price is going to be for the next 6 months, on mid Gen refresh console. Especially in the terms of those two games amongst others because it is not a matter of them not being able to reach a better potential on the base PS5 it is strictly a matter of them releasing it before it was technically optimized and Polished and relying far too heavily on doing even less of that with things like the terrible FSR 2 uspcaling.
So as much as I still want to play rebirth at some point, I'm just waiting until it's on sale now. I could tell a couple months ago with the fact that no real sales and/or meaningful performance related patches really ever came, that a pro related scheme was in the works. As these devs and publishers likely expect to see a sales boost on the software side for some of these games that released in completely technically inferior state thanks to the release of the overpriced pro.
Re: Latest PS5 Firmware Adds Welcome Hub, Adaptive Controller Charging, Much More
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Sony starts charging to receive these firmware updates. 🤣
Re: Space Marine 2 Enjoys a Launch Worthy of the God-Emperor Himself
Congrats to the devs. Sounds well deserved!
Re: Despite Price Point, Analyst Firm Expects PS5 Pro to Sell Like PS4 Pro
Not a chance, the price point alone makes these two refreshes not comparable.
Initially most of their sales will come from scalpers and those people that will just waste money no matter what. However, the rest of us that were probably interested if it was around the 500, 550 price point Max 6 with disc, it ain't happening we're not that stupid.
It won't get anywhere near 18 mill with that price, the modest improvements, and the lack of additional factors like 4k( for ps4 pro).
Re: Poll: Are You Sold on PS5 Pro?
Sony can F right off. Pretty much nothing else to be said. Par for the course for them this Gen.
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
Insanity. Sony is so out of touch. Who thought that this presentation was a good idea. You're going to try and sell me on a $700 console with Demon Souls and the last of us to a PS4 game are you f****** kidding me. Oh wait I can have clearer back ground assets like the crowd in the bleachers on the first level of Ratchet and Clank or slightly better looking trees in Spider-Man 2?! Are you serious right now? 60 fps for games I already beat and many of which are several years old or more? Lol nahhh.
Very few people are buying this console to replay these old games that most have completed. The decision to green light revealing this with no new game reveal fully utilizing the hardware or even just a teaser is insanity.
Aside from all that, the price point is just ridiculous. you know they're just fishing again,.... they're going to do the same s*** they did with psvr 2, and honestly all add'l hardware this Gen, and wait until all the few hundred thousand whales and scalpers buy it at the overpriced nonsense before they make it priced what it should be and what it's actually worth if they even ever do that.
At this price without a disk drive ($779.98 total), you aren't even getting people that have been holding off on migrating to this generation to bite. Should have dropped the base ps5 price and make this priced as it should be.
This just doesn't make sense. Sony's leadership is again, just so out of touch. This feels like the most mismanaged generation they've ever had.
Re: Astro Bot PS5 Sales 'Aren't Huge' in UK, But There's Still Hope
It's a very niche title despite it being a great game. I don't understand how so many of you don't seem to be able to rationalize that a 9 hour, child like in it's simplicity and tone, platformer may not sell massively.
This isn't the Nintendo switch. Despite the enthusiast nostalgia, it just doesn't have massive appeal just like the next Lego game doesn't. It still remains a great game for what it is, it just isn't going to be a massive blockbuster in terms of sales.
Re: Sony Increases PS5 Controller Prices in US, Europe, and More
Sony is a mess. We blow millions of a failure live service project and likely more failures to come. What do we do says Sony?
Price gouge our hardware of course!
Re: Bungie Commits to Destiny 2 DLC and Support Through 2026
Jesus.. Why. Take a hint bungie
Re: PS5 Pro Showcase Set for Tomorrow, Hosted by Mark Cerny
If this is overpriced and not announced along dedicated software, it won't sell well.
Especially with the improvements totally bypassing the cpu which will now actually be slower. The machine learning Could be good but Also could be terrible. Most games are using FSR for console and that IS In it's third iteration and still is absolute garbage visually. Yet devs are using it as a crutch to expedite optomization by having native resolutions at sub 720p and often way lower than that. I highly doubt Sony's will be better at launch.
I personally wouldn't spend more than 500 in it. In this economic climate with price gouging destroying consumer confidence, they would be far smarter to lower the base model ps5 price and price this as the Ps5 was at release.
They won't do that likely, as in all reality the run on the original at release is probably informing their expectations for this. However if it's anywhere 600ish and beyond you are only roping in those that will get it regardless which is absolutely a smaller pool.
Re: Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2 (PS5) - Grimdark Shooter Is an Instant Co-Op Classic
Curious you really glossed over the fact that the game's framerate tanks horribly in the performance mode. With even drops into the 30s during the swarm combat sections which are essentially the core gameplay loop.
Apparently the XboxX is significantly better in the taxing swarm parts, but in general the performance mode is not near locked 60 and extremely Subpar on ps5.
Sounds like this is just better off played at 30fps on PS5.
Re: Soapbox: Astro's Playroom PS5 Did Live Service and You Didn't Even Notice
@riceNpea I find it Bizarre that we continue to cite hell divers 2 as An example of a live service success. It isn't. It was an intitial sales success that exceeded expectations.
We continue to reference this game Over and over again despite the reality that that if the pc player count is any indication, which it almost always is to some degree, then Hell Divers 2 has lost 95% of its player base in just 7 months.
It has been largely Mismanaged since release and had it not had a price tag It for entry it would be considered a live service failure just like the many others that have flopped in the last two years. In fact I would say that helldivers too is a prime example of what Sony was hoping would occur with concord and a prime reason why they chose to charge an initial price for the game. While Concord was an immediate failure, Hell Divers 2 has failed to stop the hemorrhaging of players in just over half a year of its live service lifetime.
Re: Soapbox: Astro's Playroom PS5 Did Live Service and You Didn't Even Notice
Such a ridiculous Reach to equate a few add-ons to market an upcoming new iteration of. The ip as live service. We all know what we are referring to when we air our distaste for the model. I don't know why you are reaching and schilling for the model in the way you are, as I'm positive you know as well what the term is referring to in the minds of the gamer and the greed driven investors that keep trying to push it.
Feels like a click bait article...
Re: Sony Execs Seem to Think the Company Doesn't Have Enough Original IP
I actually agree with the dude here, but whining about it while spending the better part of a decade squashing most of the ip you do have, pumping put repetitive sequels and chasing trends will do that to you. A lot of the Ips you guys are referencing above are very niche or already somewhat recently used. Aside from that this is just a corporate goon. He doesn't mean IP to bring a diverse portfolio of games to us. He means major IPs to milk for additional profit in a multitude of ways. The bottom line Sony has recently abandoned Ed what got them to the level of success they were at because of the fictitious endless growth model these goons and their investors demand.
Ps:
Bring back socom. (although a multi-player format that existed during the time of socom and many other beloved platforms cannot exist with the greatness they once did, with the onset of live service predation models being the parasite it is in the multi-player space).
Re: Surging Space Marine 2 Early Access Numbers Portend a Golden Future
Yeah I really don't Like this trend of an early access premium, however it's something I can just avoid it for the slimey thing that it is. People will pay it however, and that's why they do this and any of the additional $ extraction schemes.
This got me thinking though: I wonder how much of the population that is buying into these Early Access premiums are actually streamers and content creators or whatever they want to call themselves that have an incentive to be able to get their videos out earliest. Like what if this is just a way that devs and Publishers formulated a targeted plan to nickel and dime that crowd(in addition to reg gamers willing to fork it over), because they know that they'll pay to get stream views and review videos out because it equates to more views from the masses that are eagerly awaiting the release and seek out that type of release window content.
Re: Minecraft's Weird Live Action Movie Is Going to Be Massive, Isn't It?
Incredibly stupid. Watch dumbed down idiotic acting with 99% green screen nonsense.
Just like Pokémon, Mario, etc. Investors don't even have to try when milking these major IPs because they know they will make a profit because of the mindless fanatics that make up those fan bases.
Re: PS5, PC Shooter Concord Dead on Arrival, Is Being Taken Offline This Week as Dev 'Explores Options'
@Markatron84 exactly. It really only bothers them so much as they are told to be bothered by those that brainwash them with divisive left/right political nonsense.
Re: PS5, PC Shooter Concord Dead on Arrival, Is Being Taken Offline This Week as Dev 'Explores Options'
@Anguspuss fair enough. Wish you well
Re: PS5, PC Shooter Concord Dead on Arrival, Is Being Taken Offline This Week as Dev 'Explores Options'
@Anguspuss a 7 is not Awesome, and this site gave it the same. Believe me I think live service games are trash, however this whole narrative that you are really pushing is political and you know it
Re: PS5, PC Shooter Concord Dead on Arrival, Is Being Taken Offline This Week as Dev 'Explores Options'
@Anguspuss ign never said it was awesome. Nearly Every outlet said it was generic drivel with good shooting mechanics that could be fun had the game and asset design not been so subpar and late to the trend chasing.
You and many only say these things because it feeds a false narrative of an agenda that has been completely made up to influence the ignorant politically and fan the flames of hate speech that permeates those lulled into its lies.
That being said it's no denying that this is literally the biggest flop in gaming history
Re: PS5, PC Shooter Concord Dead on Arrival, Is Being Taken Offline This Week as Dev 'Explores Options'
Sony, Sony, Sony. Greed has driven you too far from the path that made you.
Course correction is greatly needed.
Re: Mini Review: The Casting of Frank Stone (PS5) - A Stripped Back Version of the Supermassive Formula
@trev666 @Gravytrain I'm not one to defend push square very often and especially not this reviewer, however the suggestion that this is an anomoly review is literally false based on the data. There are at least eight 5 or 6 reviews thus far with only 20 posted. That's nearly half of the reviews ews suggesting the game is mediocre. The remaining are much higher. When the divide is this noticeable history tends to prove that the reality is usually that the game is mid at best.
Either way when 5s are at play and the average is 69, you have to read several opinions and take gameplay and demos into account, as it's clearly got significant negatives for some, yet they may not be negative for you.
for most this game is going to be pretty garbo, although with how little these things are games and how Niche the genre and fan base is for this B movie cosplay, I suspect those folks have beergoggles on in terms of their opinions of another opportunity for such.
Re: Just Like Black Myth: Wukong, PS5 Action RPG Enotria Is Delayed Indefinitely on Xbox
@Widey85 interesting, this article was months ago! So this is genuinely a non story aside from getting more details as to why it's delayed/canceled.
All that aside, I'm looking forward to this one and think it looks far more promising than outlaws, ac, and even wukong in it's current state and shortcomings. Glad I passed on them at fp.
This will likely be my next game launch window buy.
Re: Star Wars Outlaws (PS5) - Open World Pledge Produces a Superficial Space Outing
@Craigsouthern just dance? I was under the impression massive made the division and the newer avatar game.
The problem is that they had to work within the game design philosophy/framework and toolsets provided by Ubisoft, which are very shallow,, repetitive anti strong narrative, coupled with an aging engine and horrible AI.
However, it's baffling however that massive whom have made strong cover based shooting mechanics in the past coupled with Ubisoft who have built an empire on stealth gameplay produced a game that does both of these worse than any other game in their respective portfolios.
Re: Upcoming PS5 Games for September and October 2024
Looking forward to Enotria and space marine. Not interested in much else unless veilguard is more than what it appears to be be. Which so far seems like a very linear corridor into combat arena design.
Astrobot is definitely not my thing and for all the hype it feels like an obvious and weak distraction for how little Sony has put out or even communicated on this year. I get it, it's a solid gimmicky platformer, advert and nostalgia piece wrapped into one. Just not my thing at full price, as I know for me, the loop will grow repetitive and tired after a dozen stages or so. I used to love platformers like this but I prefer them in the vein of an open area design like jak and Dax to foster exploration, and not just challenge gimmick stages like a crash band.
Insanity that Space Marine 2 is thrown into the extra section when by the looks of previews it's going to be a game of the year contender.
Re: Preview: PS5's Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater Is a Fiercely Loyal Remake
Zero interest in a remake that doesn't even attempt to do more than the bare minimum. It's sad that the media is framing reusing the same 20 year old animations, assets, voice, etc as a "faithful remake."
when let's be honest here, that's a lazy remake at best and in all reality just a remaster.
Re: Sony Accused of Signing Secret PS5 Console Exclusivity Agreement with Black Myth: Wukong
@Enuo wait the tooth fairy is dead?!
Double wait: the tooth fairy existed prior to this cold hearted assassination!!?!!!
Whoa
Re: Sony Accused of Signing Secret PS5 Console Exclusivity Agreement with Black Myth: Wukong
@NEStalgia well put.
Re: Sony Accused of Signing Secret PS5 Console Exclusivity Agreement with Black Myth: Wukong
Sony basically doesn't market anything anymore so that's not a. Really strong counterpoint to the rumor. Sure deathloop was pushed years ago, however in the last few years they have basically sat back and put as little effort into. Marketing, gamer and media engagement as a whole.
Whatever is going on with them internally is not great at best and in all reality it feels like The most anti gamer, greed driven, and complacent time in the entire playstation history.
It makes zero sense that this game has issues on the more powerful and "pc like architecture" in the series x. totally can understand it being unplayable on the S though, As it runs with downgrades and technical issues on the PS5, and the dev has admitted getting better performance in patches is a ways off in possibility. Xbox has already walked back the "need to run on x and s," policy in previous releases, so it's hard to believe they wouldn't do so with a title like Wukong that had a lot of hype, and was clearly going to be visually heavy performance wise.
Re: Rumour: Crysis Battle Royale Game Dumped So Dev Can Focus on Crysis 4
Take notes Sony!
Re: Online RPG Blue Protocol Shutting Down, Western Release Cancelled
The real reason this is happening all over the place is the fact the corporate overlords dictating the direction and longevity of these projects aren't gamers and are funding them to coax over player numbers from the core sector of gatcha and live service addicts to their new products. Despite the increasing database of evidence that the ship of getting a successful amount of that market share has sailed.
The other major issue is the fact that those addicts aren't gamers plain and simple. They are a completely different beast altogether and should be considered as such.
Trying to present your scheme as a game to gamers just isn't going to work when they aren't the target audience and what they are peddling is no game. Most of us see this garbage for what it is and won't be fooled.
For that pot of gold of lost souls sucked into these things;. Its like trying to get an addict to fundamentally change from a Drug they are already addicted to, toward another drug that does the exact same thing but is a different color. Despite the first drug having been used for so long and the receptors in the brain so used to it for the responses it's now a crutch for after years of use.
Just look at the very few that have managed to garner a decent release window audience and be considered successes on sites like this. Ie hell divers, The Finals, The First Descendant, palworld. The player Numbers have completely dropped off a cliff as the addicts go back to there drug of choice, or actual gamers having been lured to try the new trending drug due to peer pressure. All. The while Bg3 a single Player GAME that came before them all has a higher daily engagement now than they do a couple Months after their releases. Hopefully games like Wukong show these scumbags that making actual games can still be massive financial Successes.
It's just not gonna happen for the vast majority of these new drugs being peddled, Oops I mean games, nope wrong again,... Corporate schemes.
Re: Lies of P Sequel Jumping Straight to Elden Ring, Neowiz Seeks Open World Experience
@Coffeeglitch exactly, well said.
Re: Japan Hit with Yet Another PS5 Price Increase
This is pretty insane.. Sony has lost it. They aren't even hiding the fact that this is out of greed.
Re: Lies of P Sequel Jumping Straight to Elden Ring, Neowiz Seeks Open World Experience
I'm all in on this one. Lies of p was great, and in many ways a step above the aging bones of the "copy and paste roughly the same unchanged thing with a modestly different coat of paint" formula that fromsoft has been milking for 15 years.
Re: Round Up: Star Wars Outlaws PS5 Reviews Are Hit and Miss
100% a wait for sale. Played far too mamy Ubi games at full price to experience the same repetition and lack of depth boredom before completing it. I k ow better now.. They are great mindless easy games for about half of retail or less. They unfortunately hold no value beyond that for me with how homogeneous, watered down, and Formulaic their designs have become.
Looking forward to the guaranteed price drop in 6 months or so though! 👍
Re: Poll: What PS5 Game Had the Best Showing at Gamescom 2024?
Crimson desert and first berserker
Re: Site News: Where's Our Star Wars Outlaws PS5 Review?
They apparently nailed the star wars esthetic, and the story is OK enough despite the writing.
Sounds like they really flubbed the combat Traversal and stealth with oversimplification, garbage Ubisoft enemy AI, vastly lower visual npc models and typical repetition boredom that plagues nearly every UBI game due to a lack of depth, despite this being shorter for them. In addition, poor optomization, bugs and possible memory issues. Hard pass.
I've learned that Ubisoft targets the same formula regardless of the skin the game is wearing and it almost always grows stale and remains in a safe generic area. I think they know this as well, as they more than any other major publisher, throw their games on sale soonest after release. For me that has amounted to a never paying full price for their games after having been burnt on not facing this fact and jumping in at full price far too many times.
Re: Concord (PS5) - Live Service Debut Beats the Hate with Stellar Presentation and Good Gameplay
@Gamer83 same.. I would have 100% given factions a go
Re: Concord (PS5) - Live Service Debut Beats the Hate with Stellar Presentation and Good Gameplay
We already knew this game had competent shooting mechanics. It's still a generic attempt and massive failure merely because nobody wanted this. That's it, end of story.
600ish peak pc players on day one and after (redfall had 10 times that and suicide squad over 20 times that)?!
Sony needs a much more comprehensive change in leadership. This game should have been canned a long long time ago, and had they stopped their complete ghosting of the player base anytime in the last several years, they would have even more so seen that very obvious writing on the wall for this project. Even that aside, how do you not see the responses and lack of engagement to the beta as a clear signal that this isn't it in its current form.
Granted money would have been lost for sure. However riding this out to release with all the marketing, all the additional dev payroll is just complete Mismanagement and bad business as well as another toxic attempt at predation on the gaming community following the putrid smell of greed wafting from the few successful schemes still operational. Over a hundred mill wasted here, nearly 4 bill on Bungie.......
This is exactly one of the many reasons that Sony's ridiculous 'hide everything until the release window' policy is just idiocy. As is there incessant aims to chase endless growth with as little creativity and effort possible.
Just don't buy into this SH*T, nor make excuses for it. There is a myriad of warnings that Sony and the developer could have paid attention to over the last few years that would have informed them that this was not going to work out.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Concord?
Jesus this is a massive flop. 600ish peak pc players on day one (redfall had 10 times that and suicide squad over 20 times that)?!
Sony needs a much more comprehensive change in leadership. This game should have been canned a long long time ago, and had they stopped their complete ghosting of the player base anytime in the last several years, they would have even more so seen that very obvious writing on the wall for this project.
Granted money would have been lost for sure. However riding this out to release with all the marketing, all the additional dev payroll is just complete Mismanagement and bad business as well as another toxic attempt at predation on the gaming community following the putrid smell of greed wafting from the few successful schemes still operational. Over a hundred mill wasted here, nearly 4 bill on Bungie.......
This is exactly one of the many reasons that Sony's ridiculous 'hide everything until the release window' policy is just idiocy. As is there incessant aims to chase endless growth with as little creativity and effort possible.
Just don't buy into this SH*T
Re: Black Myth: Wukong (PS5) - A Spectacularly Creative Action Romp
Definitely a sale item for me specifically due to the poor level design and input latency which Is something I notice and get pulled out of the fun zone when it is a consistent thing.
It's kind of a bummer they didnt better design the levels and instead just used invisible walls. It's another immersion breaker.
Sounds like it will be good, simple fun when it's at a price point that works for me with those shortcomings.
Re: Preview: Crimson Desert Is Real, Complex, and Potentially Great
@Northern_munkey agreed. Considering how long they milked the monetization in that it makes me wonder if they will try some sort of version of that again with this. I hope not though, as it looks like it could be fun!
Re: Black Myth: Wukong Is Eating Your Inputs on PS5, and It's a Problem with Performance Mode
This is exactly why I'm waiting on it. Input lag is my biggest gaming pet peave. Appreciate all that chimed in now realizing they've experienced it or not noticed it.
I have a feeling I will.
I actually don't think they will be able to Make the game run any better at the framerate targeted in performance mode if they had to use frame Gen to Even get there. It was never meant to be used this way and suggests the cuts would have to Be even more massive to the visuals to even remotely come close to 60, and with FSR in play that's just not something I want to pay full price for as FSR is consistently a very poor reconstruction option in terms of. Visuals.
It is understandable that people are having fun with it, however it does make sense why they didnt give out ps5 codes pre-Launch. they knew this was a very handicapped version of the game.
Re: The First Berserker: Khazan Is Really Starting to Shape Up Ahead of Its PS5 Beta
Looks great. Hesitant with Nexon involved but hopeful it turns out to be a good game no strings attached.
Re: Preview: Crimson Desert Is Real, Complex, and Potentially Great
Looking forward to this one as long as they don't monetize it like they did with the black desert scheme
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Black Myth: Wukong?
@Northern_munkey appreciate it your thoughts.
I only ask because I was about to pull the trigger on it but after that report I'm hesitant.. As I'm super sensitive to control input lag and it's something that can really annoy and spoil an experience when I'm messing with sensitivity controls more than playing the game.
I may just jump in and give it a go. Do you think it could use a few. More patches before playing? Although doing that with Dragons Dogma 2 would have been pointless as those technical issues have never been addressed meaningfully lol, but ironically they didn't Bother Me Much.
Re: Reaction: It's Time for Xbox to Tell Us Which Games It's Bringing to PS5, and Which Games It Isn't
Honestly,. At least folks from the Xbox platform actually engage journalists and the fan base. Even if it's not always as forthcoming as it could be.
We hear literally nothing from the Sony side.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Black Myth: Wukong?
According to DF, The input latency when playing in performance mode (the only just OK but has problems mode), is bad. Can people that play this and aren't wearing rose tinted glasses confirm this?
Aside from visuals if the input lag is bad in the only sometimes smooth mode, it's definitely a wait for me in a. Fast paced combat game like this.
Re: PS5, PC Hero Shooter Concord Was in Development for 8 Years
Such a ridicous investment. Sony has put too many out of touch idiots in positions they shouldn't be in. I get it, corporations are in it to make money and do so with max potential returns.
However, if you don't at least sprinkle people into the corporate pyramid that actually enjoy gaming and keep an ear to the player base you get the losses Sony is going to continue to face with Destiny, Concord, factions, and any other bad decision we still haven't heard of, beyond effectively ghosting your fan base for an entire generation thus far.
How development of this generic project was allowed to continue, and so late in the game for such a Saturated genre and make the decision to charge $40 is proof enough that there are real problems at sony and it extends far beyond Jim Ryans legacy.