remember people, HD2 is an EA game, Early Access. It is not feature full and we are all testing. As we progress through the story, new game mechanics are being introduced, old ones ironed out. This cycle of galactic war and its story will see us feature full at the end - maybe xmas 2026? Sony will be able to make a call then weather they want to publish the game for the next (NVidia based) XBOX. Once the game is feature full and out of EA. At full price, not $40.
Shorter games, more interactive and reactive worlds (think Zelda BOTW + half life 2 + Bad Company 2). Replayability that draws from different story paths and ends. Make it 5 hours long and super alive with a good effect of player's choices and there you go. It won't cost less to make tho.
@GeeForce nah dude. It's Sony. If anything, we can rest assured that they'll artificially restrict Pro from being able to achieve its full potential just so that the regular install base is not estranged. Save your money for PC or PS6.
@Totheteeth because HD2 is in early access. They don't want to say it but it is. The game is far away from being feature complete and the price point they chose works in favour of that theory.
We are missing weapons and armor customization, vehicles, and vehicles customization and the game is still in heavy development with base mechanics having been tweaked and retweaked since it came out.
I suspect that by the time the galactic war sees its first conclusion and the community completes the story, talks between Sony and MS would have completed and HD2 will be released for xb. It will be Sony's Minecraft.
So, if ever, HD2 will be ready for xb by the time the story resets. So, not before 2026.
@TheDudeElDuderino @NEStalgia @themightyant @gingerfrog @StrickenBiged @Batesy125s some great replies and use cases. Thanks for taking the time to react.
@SuntannedDuck2 duuude, you seriously need to work on redacting your own messages. I have read them both this time, but dude, I COULD HAVE HAD another family and got new set of kids through college for the time it took me to read your brain dump. Edit. Edit. Cut, cut, cut more, till only the essence is there. Still, like with others, thanks for your point of view.
To this date I don't understand who the target audience for this is. Is it the dudes and dudettes who found WiiU handheld feature compelling (free up the living room TV for others in the family and play your games with some lag). Not putting WiiU down, it's the most innovative and still back compatible console we got since ps2, destroyed by Nintendo's marketing.
@koverby sometimes, there's a man... I won't say a hero, 'cause what's a hero, but, sometimes there's a man, and I'm talking about the koverby here, sometimes there's a man, well, he's the man for his time and place, he fits right in there. And that's the koverby.
@Medic_alert you forget who was the dev darling and who was the pariah during the xb360/ps3 era. Xb had the devs eating from the palm of its hand... yet, just before the dawn of ps4, Sony changed its tune and became something different, correcting its course and preparing the way of the busines for ps4. Same thing is happening now with XB. They are not doing this as a measure for this gen. It's the next one, which MS will start one year earlier than Sony.
@rjejr c'mon R, you've been here long enough that you know xb series consoles, although far behind ps5 sales, can't be considered, by any stretch of the imagination, small install base.
Attach rate tho, yeah, something to talk about.
no. still consider it useless (given how great ps5 is and how underutilized it is). If they have no other way but to brute force performance in (instead of creating properly specialized for ps5 hardware games) then be it... not for me tho, I learned my lessons with PS4 Pro and PS VR. not gonna get me this time around Sony. No, dude.
dudes & dudettes be looking at their buttons... what are you, 4?
I know where they are, they can have ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs for all I know, wouldn't be able to tell you.
I just learn what each button (positionaly) does in the game and I don't even have a concept that this button is a, this b, x square, circle j**k.
@NEStalgia ps5pro is great news for my dream of MS releasing XB7 one year earlier than the next PS, and based on nvidia tech (gpu) and AMD cpu. Sony is not going to be coming out with ps6 earlier than xmas 2027.
@JohntheRaptor no dude, you are wrong. I know what an 800 credits PC looks like and what a 3000 credits can do. There's a reason I mainly play on consoles and it has nothing to do with prices but with it being a major chore and a pain in the backside.
Rather than insulting people (passive aggressive "everyone", "whining" etc.), try to understand what I'm saying (if you're going to try to engage me).
This device, like the ps4pro, is a stopgap measure, an effort to prolong the manufacturing of an already underperforming platform, with a goal to maximize profit generation from a system that sprung out of a certain R&D budget. It is neither pro consumer nor pro gaming industry.
The price is ridiculous not because you could have a PC that performs the same for the same price (you couldn't) but because it is almost double the price of the base model, and let me tell you friendo, it will not produce even 50% better results.
I saw what sony does with such devices (Bloodborne is calling you dude, with its locked framerate on any ps you run it on), they are never betrayed by their raw power but by how sony dictates software runs on them.
I am so glad this is so meh, like the whole ps5 gen has been so far. Really unremarkable. Will save me eur 800. I am just hoping that MS will do an xb360 on Sony and release the next gen xb with AMD cpu and nvidia GPU for xmas 2025 or easter 2026.
@jrt87 same, same, and honestly, I have not seen or heard of a PS exclusive that would need it or make me go ooooh, a PC could never. SONY seriously underdelivered in the software department this gen.
They didn't get me with psvr2 (and I bought 2 psvr) and they will not get me for whatever ps5pro turns out to be, and I fall into the category of people you described yourself as.
@LikelySatan I know exactly what you mean dude. It took me 2 years before I was ready to touch Odyssey after Origins. Odyssey is one hell of a looker though, and again, I like everything about it, but I tend to do a lot of side content instead of focusing on the story and so, well, yeah, it's my homework
Sony removing first party games from their subscription service is never not hilariously out of touch. They will never learn and xbox is criminally inept to give them a run for their money. Sony is the best when they are beaten and in the gutter, not when they reign supreme.
Ah, well, back to playing the absolutely amazing Midnight Suns on xbsx and Helldivers 2 on ps5.
@LikelySatan yo, Origins is a great AC. I loved the mechanics and the story (and ending and how it retconed the AC universe) but it did kinda killed the franchise for me with its insane length.
I played Odyssey later and stoped two thirds of the story in. They are just too repetitive. Made me never buy an AC game since.
Nah bro. They'll botch it in some way. Even if there is no way to mess it up, Sony will find it. Mind you, I still have my og PSP and two oled Vitas.
Not interested in Sony's anything other than mainline console.
Immediately decided not to go for PSVR2 after owning two PSVR.
Sony. Will. Drop. The. Ball. Every. Single. Time.
Every single time.
I am waiting for Switch 2.
@UltimateOtaku91 hey matey, why speak of things you know nothing of? Now, I don't abide by those dudes overreaction but it for sure is not just over flamethrowers.
It is also about the game not having basic features working (social, friending, blocking, cross play friending, private game sessions the list just goes on), being marred by bugs (code not Terminids) and while this is going on the dev decides to spend their precious time by constantly changing the way base weapons work and behave instead of making the thing work.
But once again, this game is in Early Access with publisher deciding to not call a Spade a Spade and deciding to go with "a game with developing story line and features".
If these gamer dudes knew anything about anything they would collect their money and hire a legal firm to hit Sony and devs with false advertising in a court of law.
And no, this being a live service game, 12 mil players is not accurate. Yes there have been 12 mil copies sold, but right now, at its very hig, the game has 70K concurrent players. So probably out of those 12 mil, there are still hundreds of thousands unique players over a span of a month. This will be enough to keep the game going.
What kind of Helldivers are my friends and I? We are Marfarkers! Read it fast. But we are also, in our head canon, all born and raised on Marfark. Proud to fight for Super Earth, but Marfark always comes first. MARFARKERS! ✊️
Actually, many things would have been differently handled if Sony, the publisher of this game, decided to call it what it was. Helldivers2 has been what we usually know as an EA game (Early Access game).
Unfinished, major features barely working, lacking major portions of the game (e.g. armor and weapons customization) and remaining in major development cycle with its core game mechanic being changed/tweaked all the time + the final nail to the coffin: the price.
Repeat after me: Helldivers 2 is an Early Access game.
After that is internalised and accepted, EVERYTHING that has happened with this game, since it's early access availability, becomes clear as day and totally understandable.
Note: shoutout to Digital Foundry's Alex Battaglia for that jewel of a definition for "EA game" = Early Access game 😂
@The_Wailing_Doom let's stick to the facts dude and stay away from virtue signaling. Both you and I have no idea how many people are actually, as you put it, "whining" (a.k.a. being vocal about not liking where a product they invested their money and time is going). What we do know and have documented proof of is that one of the fundamental features of a multiplayer online game has never ever worked properly. Don't be daft and deflect with "works for me" while you have dev's own patch releases since the dawn of this game that clearly state it as a known issue.
You can insist talking about the outcry while I point out to you that this dev has been behaving like a bushman league player since day one regarding one of the more crucial feature of their product.
@The_Wailing_Doom do you know what is embarrassing? Not having a functional social system in your multiplayer game, that's what is embarrassing. To this day, friends list, block list, invites it is all broken. But, please go on, tell me how the dev properly used their time nerfing weapons instead of making the basics work.
Nerfhead Game Studios announce their 5 year plan. Everyone clap. nope, dudes, you had your chance and your action shows you are riddled with people obsessed with control (of things that need no controlling). Cheerio and farewell, 40K is coming.
Disclaimer: I still love this game so much, but have no intention of investing a millisecond into it until they get their act together. I will follow this space and in case they bring back the fun, sure, I'll be at the practice.
Nerfhead Studios will just not give up on making their PvE game a chore and not fun. It is evident that their initial success with making HD2 so much fun was accidental. For those in the comments who have not been with the game since day1, it is not about people being crybabies, it is about Nerfhead Studios unnecessarily making main weapons feel like useless pieces of junk. With that and with constantly changing how the game plays instead on focusing on delivering new content (story and gameplay wise), Nerfhead Studios have manages to alienate 90% of their player base, which is an achievement rarely seen. Slow clap.
@NeonPizza yes, agreed. Meta is a better consumer VR option than Sony. On that front though, I did not go to Quest 3 as I already had Quest 2, and again, would like to see further significant jumps in tech before going forward. Also, I am a bit jaded and have too high of expectations, so I know I will have to wait at least five to ten years to be wowed.
I've been Sony's VR day1 owner. Pre-ordered it. Got a second unit shortly afterwards. It was a lot of fun but the 2 was not enough of a jump to make me buy it. I decided to sit this gen out - nothing gives me that "oh, wow, now THIS doesn't feel like you are looking at the world through a really thick diving goggles". I will possibly have to skip the next gen as well, but then PSVR4 or whatever else is in the market then with that tech is going to be day1. I must say that I do miss Gran Turismo in VR.
My gang of helldivers are (in our head canon) from Marfark, so there's no question about which planet we are liberating first. Dudes gotta go free their home planet first. We have family there.
Some funny comments in this thread about how Helldivers 2 community is this or that and the dudes commenting are basing this off of 4-5K people screaming (a mere droplet in an ocean compared to a MILLION dudes and dudettes on that discord). Awesome job lads in the comments, great virtue signaling. Bravo.
Would have amounted to nothing had Steam not refused to play this game (pun definitely intended) with Sony.
Steam pulled a Sony (remeber how ruthless they were to Cyberpunk on their store) by removing the game from stores where psn is nowhere to be seen. Sony went "ugh, right in the wallet, huh? I think I'm hurting" and went all soft.
The best thing, Sony had no reason to go this hard and this tone deaf.
Sony could have done this so much better... "We have some great news! Linking to PSN account issues have been resolved. If you decide to link your accounts it will help avoid issues with social part of the Managed Democracy's freedom loving diving! And to show appreciation, Superearth has some special armor and capes for those brave accounts-linking helldivers. Link your accounts today! Managed Democracy depends on it!"
No, I don't think the requirement itself was any different than what other publishers are doing but the way it was put back in play and having it be a requirement without covering all the territories where the game was being sold in is some 2006 era Sony
@Stickleman consider yourself lucky. I on the other hand am using an alternate HD2 account on steam to bridge the problems between my prime on ps5 and my friends on steam which I lost the ability to "see" since a month and a half now.
I raised a support request with Arrowhead and they acknowledged the issue and are working on it. I am guessing the mandatory linking to psn and moving all social related database(s) transactions/messaging/status info whatever blabla is behind it over to PSN will solve this.
@Stickleman "hasn't been an issue since launch" ooooh my dear child, you have no clue about unresolved social features in HD2 which are not working and that's because you don't have a big number of helldivers in your friend list across systems. They absolutely need this to sort the issues out.
@Cutmastavictory the price of the ps3 is not the issue here dude. The way they go about it is and the messaging. Focus dude. As for the feature, you can find a lot of excuses but that is a big no no and they got slammed with a lawsuit which they lost. Sony is like every corpo, intrinsically soulless.
1. People are blowing this out of proportion. Steam will be fine. Sony will be fine. Arrowhead will be fine.
2. PC gamers could have shut up and just created psn accounts like they do for every other major publisher.
3. As for Sony and how they are handling this, I sense there are a lot of very young and inexperienced dudes on this site. We're talking about Sony here, the OG "don't give a @#%& about consumers and what they think" corpo. This is the same company that told us to get a second job to afford a ps3, then took a touted feature of that same device out with a firmware update. They literally took away what they advertised the device to be. It's Sony. A big corpo machine which doesn't care. The only time they appear to care is when they have the boot of their competitors on their face. Buy more xboxes if you want a better Sony (but this will take care of itself when the next xbox comes out in 2025 with an nvidia gpu; you read it here first, you're welcome dudes).
Helldivers 2 has just started dudes. It is yet going to grow. We are yet to see vehicles added. Then, there will be weapons, armours, helmets and vehicles customization/skill tree, so... the game will be totally different than that we started playing two months ago. I am playing nothing else since it came out, but I have a great gang to dive with and we met some far out dudes in public matches so our circle of friends to play it with has grown. GOTY material 💯
Just by playin two hours a day, I already have 3000 sc waiting for the next warbond. I have both previous ones. The thing is, I earned sc for one of them and for the other I paid a tenner and got it. That tenner has a return of approximately 3 monetary units in the form of 300 sc, so what I'm saying is that it's all extremely fair.
If you enjoy this game, and cleanup levels (my dudes and I play like that - if we are after xp and rare and ultra rare samples then we play difficulty level 7-9 we complete main tasks and whatever else we can and extract if possible; If we are after medals, RS and SC, we go to lower difficulty 4-5 and 100% each map, no stone left unturned).
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Re: Helldivers 2's Democratic Super Weapon Now Fully Operational
remember people, HD2 is an EA game, Early Access.
It is not feature full and we are all testing.
As we progress through the story, new game mechanics are being introduced, old ones ironed out. This cycle of galactic war and its story will see us feature full at the end - maybe xmas 2026?
Sony will be able to make a call then weather they want to publish the game for the next (NVidia based) XBOX. Once the game is feature full and out of EA. At full price, not $40.
Re: Helldivers 2's Democratic Super Weapon Now Fully Operational
@BiosNova you mean, liberate them? We liberate terminids from their non-democratic existence and we spill oil of the freedom hating automatons.
Re: Game Size Not as Important as It Used to Be, Says Yakuza Creator
Shorter games, more interactive and reactive worlds (think Zelda BOTW + half life 2 + Bad Company 2).
Replayability that draws from different story paths and ends.
Make it 5 hours long and super alive with a good effect of player's choices and there you go. It won't cost less to make tho.
Re: Hands On: The Last of Us 2 Marries Visuals and Frame Rate in PS5 Pro Game Changer
@Lup no, no, no. Needs a remaster of that remake. THEN it will be alright.
Re: PS5 Pro Makes Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Look Like a Whole New Game
@GeeForce nah dude. It's Sony. If anything, we can rest assured that they'll artificially restrict Pro from being able to achieve its full potential just so that the regular install base is not estranged.
Save your money for PC or PS6.
Re: Xbox Fans Really Want a Port of PS5, PC Hit Helldivers 2
@Totheteeth because HD2 is in early access. They don't want to say it but it is. The game is far away from being feature complete and the price point they chose works in favour of that theory.
We are missing weapons and armor customization, vehicles, and vehicles customization and the game is still in heavy development with base mechanics having been tweaked and retweaked since it came out.
I suspect that by the time the galactic war sees its first conclusion and the community completes the story, talks between Sony and MS would have completed and HD2 will be released for xb. It will be Sony's Minecraft.
So, if ever, HD2 will be ready for xb by the time the story resets. So, not before 2026.
Re: One Year On, Plucky PS Portal's Sales Remain Strong
@TheDudeElDuderino @NEStalgia @themightyant @gingerfrog @StrickenBiged @Batesy125s some great replies and use cases. Thanks for taking the time to react.
@SuntannedDuck2 duuude, you seriously need to work on redacting your own messages. I have read them both this time, but dude, I COULD HAVE HAD another family and got new set of kids through college for the time it took me to read your brain dump. Edit. Edit. Cut, cut, cut more, till only the essence is there. Still, like with others, thanks for your point of view.
Stay cool everyone. 😎
Re: One Year On, Plucky PS Portal's Sales Remain Strong
To this date I don't understand who the target audience for this is. Is it the dudes and dudettes who found WiiU handheld feature compelling (free up the living room TV for others in the family and play your games with some lag). Not putting WiiU down, it's the most innovative and still back compatible console we got since ps2, destroyed by Nintendo's marketing.
Re: Dragon Age Series Ditches Those Disgusting Spiders in The Veilguard
Disgusting? Filthy? Dudes, you could only wish to achieve the superiority of a spider. Puny, and for real, dirty humans!
Re: The Alters Gets Alternate Release Date, Sci-Fi Survival Game Delayed into 2025
I've been waiting for this since it was announced. Glad they are taking the extra time. Day1 purchase for me.
Re: Microsoft Is Investigating Why Devs Are Prioritising PS5 Over Xbox
@koverby sometimes, there's a man... I won't say a hero, 'cause what's a hero, but, sometimes there's a man, and I'm talking about the koverby here, sometimes there's a man, well, he's the man for his time and place, he fits right in there. And that's the koverby.
Re: Microsoft Is Investigating Why Devs Are Prioritising PS5 Over Xbox
@Medic_alert you forget who was the dev darling and who was the pariah during the xb360/ps3 era. Xb had the devs eating from the palm of its hand... yet, just before the dawn of ps4, Sony changed its tune and became something different, correcting its course and preparing the way of the busines for ps4. Same thing is happening now with XB. They are not doing this as a measure for this gen. It's the next one, which MS will start one year earlier than Sony.
Re: Microsoft Is Investigating Why Devs Are Prioritising PS5 Over Xbox
@rjejr c'mon R, you've been here long enough that you know xb series consoles, although far behind ps5 sales, can't be considered, by any stretch of the imagination, small install base.
Attach rate tho, yeah, something to talk about.
Re: Microsoft Is Investigating Why Devs Are Prioritising PS5 Over Xbox
XB is entering Yoshida PS4 Sony phase. Humility brings prosperity. The next XB, based on AMD cpu and Nvidia GPU is going to slay.
Re: Fans Appear to Be Coming Around to PS5 Pro
no. still consider it useless (given how great ps5 is and how underutilized it is). If they have no other way but to brute force performance in (instead of creating properly specialized for ps5 hardware games) then be it... not for me tho, I learned my lessons with PS4 Pro and PS VR. not gonna get me this time around Sony. No, dude.
Re: Random: Xbox Boss Complains About X Button After Being Handed PS5 Pad
dudes & dudettes be looking at their buttons... what are you, 4?
I know where they are, they can have ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs for all I know, wouldn't be able to tell you.
I just learn what each button (positionaly) does in the game and I don't even have a concept that this button is a, this b, x square, circle j**k.
Re: PS5's Building Insurmountable Lead Over Rival, Outselling Xbox Almost 3:1
Pure poetry 😁
"Nintendo, meanwhile, is off daydreaming again while unconsciously printing money, essentially in a league of its own."
Re: PS5 Pro Will Improve PSVR2 Games
@NEStalgia ps5pro is great news for my dream of MS releasing XB7 one year earlier than the next PS, and based on nvidia tech (gpu) and AMD cpu. Sony is not going to be coming out with ps6 earlier than xmas 2027.
Re: PS5 Pro Will Improve PSVR2 Games
@LogicStrikesAgain all 5 of them
Re: Roughly 50 Games Ready for PS5 Pro Launch with Dedicated Patches
@OldGamer999 yup, they are talking their version of upscaling and frame generation.
Re: Roughly 50 Games Ready for PS5 Pro Launch with Dedicated Patches
@JohntheRaptor no dude, you are wrong. I know what an 800 credits PC looks like and what a 3000 credits can do. There's a reason I mainly play on consoles and it has nothing to do with prices but with it being a major chore and a pain in the backside.
Rather than insulting people (passive aggressive "everyone", "whining" etc.), try to understand what I'm saying (if you're going to try to engage me).
This device, like the ps4pro, is a stopgap measure, an effort to prolong the manufacturing of an already underperforming platform, with a goal to maximize profit generation from a system that sprung out of a certain R&D budget. It is neither pro consumer nor pro gaming industry.
The price is ridiculous not because you could have a PC that performs the same for the same price (you couldn't) but because it is almost double the price of the base model, and let me tell you friendo, it will not produce even 50% better results.
I saw what sony does with such devices (Bloodborne is calling you dude, with its locked framerate on any ps you run it on), they are never betrayed by their raw power but by how sony dictates software runs on them.
Re: Roughly 50 Games Ready for PS5 Pro Launch with Dedicated Patches
@get2sammyb no, I do not think it will be cheap. I think it will be good.
Re: Roughly 50 Games Ready for PS5 Pro Launch with Dedicated Patches
I am so glad this is so meh, like the whole ps5 gen has been so far. Really unremarkable. Will save me eur 800. I am just hoping that MS will do an xb360 on Sony and release the next gen xb with AMD cpu and nvidia GPU for xmas 2025 or easter 2026.
Re: PS5 Pro Showcase Set for Tomorrow, Hosted by Mark Cerny
@jrt87 same, same, and honestly, I have not seen or heard of a PS exclusive that would need it or make me go ooooh, a PC could never. SONY seriously underdelivered in the software department this gen.
They didn't get me with psvr2 (and I bought 2 psvr) and they will not get me for whatever ps5pro turns out to be, and I fall into the category of people you described yourself as.
Re: PS5 Pro Showcase Set for Tomorrow, Hosted by Mark Cerny
@mariomaster96 you nailed it dude. At least from the games they run perspective, obviously not from hardware tech view.
Re: Star Wars Outlaws Director a 'Little Disappointed' with Critical Reception
@LikelySatan I know exactly what you mean dude. It took me 2 years before I was ready to touch Odyssey after Origins.
Odyssey is one hell of a looker though, and again, I like everything about it, but I tend to do a lot of side content instead of focusing on the story and so, well, yeah, it's my homework
Re: Star Wars Outlaws Director a 'Little Disappointed' with Critical Reception
@rusty82 yes, dude, my problem is that I play all the side content. This is exactly it. Took me forever hahaha
Re: PS Plus Extra's September Cull Has 4 More Great PS5, PS4 Games Added to It, 16 in Total
Sony removing first party games from their subscription service is never not hilariously out of touch. They will never learn and xbox is criminally inept to give them a run for their money. Sony is the best when they are beaten and in the gutter, not when they reign supreme.
Ah, well, back to playing the absolutely amazing Midnight Suns on xbsx and Helldivers 2 on ps5.
Re: Star Wars Outlaws Director a 'Little Disappointed' with Critical Reception
@LikelySatan yo, Origins is a great AC. I loved the mechanics and the story (and ending and how it retconed the AC universe) but it did kinda killed the franchise for me with its insane length.
I played Odyssey later and stoped two thirds of the story in. They are just too repetitive. Made me never buy an AC game since.
Re: Rumour: Sony Paying Close Attention to Handheld Market After PS Portal's Shock Success
Nah bro. They'll botch it in some way. Even if there is no way to mess it up, Sony will find it. Mind you, I still have my og PSP and two oled Vitas.
Not interested in Sony's anything other than mainline console.
Immediately decided not to go for PSVR2 after owning two PSVR.
Sony. Will. Drop. The. Ball. Every. Single. Time.
Every single time.
I am waiting for Switch 2.
Re: Helldivers 2 Community Fractures, Traitor 'Chaosdivers' Want to See Super Earth Burn
@UltimateOtaku91 hey matey, why speak of things you know nothing of? Now, I don't abide by those dudes overreaction but it for sure is not just over flamethrowers.
It is also about the game not having basic features working (social, friending, blocking, cross play friending, private game sessions the list just goes on), being marred by bugs (code not Terminids) and while this is going on the dev decides to spend their precious time by constantly changing the way base weapons work and behave instead of making the thing work.
But once again, this game is in Early Access with publisher deciding to not call a Spade a Spade and deciding to go with "a game with developing story line and features".
If these gamer dudes knew anything about anything they would collect their money and hire a legal firm to hit Sony and devs with false advertising in a court of law.
And no, this being a live service game, 12 mil players is not accurate. Yes there have been 12 mil copies sold, but right now, at its very hig, the game has 70K concurrent players. So probably out of those 12 mil, there are still hundreds of thousands unique players over a span of a month. This will be enough to keep the game going.
Re: Helldivers 2 Community Fractures, Traitor 'Chaosdivers' Want to See Super Earth Burn
@PaperAlien Helldivers 2 is not a mistake. It's an Early Access (a.k.a. EA 😉) game. It will be super fine once it gets to general release version.
Re: Helldivers 2 Community Fractures, Traitor 'Chaosdivers' Want to See Super Earth Burn
What kind of Helldivers are my friends and I?
We are Marfarkers! Read it fast. But we are also, in our head canon, all born and raised on Marfark. Proud to fight for Super Earth, but Marfark always comes first.
MARFARKERS! ✊️
Re: Arrowhead Unveils 60-Day Plan to Placate Rebellious Helldivers 2 Fans
Actually, many things would have been differently handled if Sony, the publisher of this game, decided to call it what it was. Helldivers2 has been what we usually know as an EA game (Early Access game).
Unfinished, major features barely working, lacking major portions of the game (e.g. armor and weapons customization) and remaining in major development cycle with its core game mechanic being changed/tweaked all the time + the final nail to the coffin: the price.
Repeat after me: Helldivers 2 is an Early Access game.
After that is internalised and accepted, EVERYTHING that has happened with this game, since it's early access availability, becomes clear as day and totally understandable.
Note: shoutout to Digital Foundry's Alex Battaglia for that jewel of a definition for "EA game" = Early Access game 😂
Re: Arrowhead Unveils 60-Day Plan to Placate Rebellious Helldivers 2 Fans
@The_Wailing_Doom let's stick to the facts dude and stay away from virtue signaling. Both you and I have no idea how many people are actually, as you put it, "whining" (a.k.a. being vocal about not liking where a product they invested their money and time is going). What we do know and have documented proof of is that one of the fundamental features of a multiplayer online game has never ever worked properly. Don't be daft and deflect with "works for me" while you have dev's own patch releases since the dawn of this game that clearly state it as a known issue.
You can insist talking about the outcry while I point out to you that this dev has been behaving like a bushman league player since day one regarding one of the more crucial feature of their product.
Re: Arrowhead Unveils 60-Day Plan to Placate Rebellious Helldivers 2 Fans
@The_Wailing_Doom do you know what is embarrassing? Not having a functional social system in your multiplayer game, that's what is embarrassing. To this day, friends list, block list, invites it is all broken. But, please go on, tell me how the dev properly used their time nerfing weapons instead of making the basics work.
Re: Arrowhead Unveils 60-Day Plan to Placate Rebellious Helldivers 2 Fans
Nerfhead Game Studios announce their 5 year plan. Everyone clap.
nope, dudes, you had your chance and your action shows you are riddled with people obsessed with control (of things that need no controlling).
Cheerio and farewell, 40K is coming.
Disclaimer: I still love this game so much, but have no intention of investing a millisecond into it until they get their act together. I will follow this space and in case they bring back the fun, sure, I'll be at the practice.
Re: More Spicy Helldivers 2 Drama as Freedom's Flame Backlash Boils Over
Nerfhead Studios will just not give up on making their PvE game a chore and not fun.
It is evident that their initial success with making HD2 so much fun was accidental.
For those in the comments who have not been with the game since day1, it is not about people being crybabies, it is about Nerfhead Studios unnecessarily making main weapons feel like useless pieces of junk.
With that and with constantly changing how the game plays instead on focusing on delivering new content (story and gameplay wise), Nerfhead Studios have manages to alienate 90% of their player base, which is an achievement rarely seen. Slow clap.
Re: Talking Point: Is It Finally the Right Time to Buy PSVR2?
@NeonPizza yes, agreed. Meta is a better consumer VR option than Sony. On that front though, I did not go to Quest 3 as I already had Quest 2, and again, would like to see further significant jumps in tech before going forward.
Also, I am a bit jaded and have too high of expectations, so I know I will have to wait at least five to ten years to be wowed.
Re: Talking Point: Is It Finally the Right Time to Buy PSVR2?
I've been Sony's VR day1 owner. Pre-ordered it. Got a second unit shortly afterwards. It was a lot of fun but the 2 was not enough of a jump to make me buy it. I decided to sit this gen out - nothing gives me that "oh, wow, now THIS doesn't feel like you are looking at the world through a really thick diving goggles".
I will possibly have to skip the next gen as well, but then PSVR4 or whatever else is in the market then with that tech is going to be day1.
I must say that I do miss Gran Turismo in VR.
Re: Helldivers 2 Trolley Problem Forces Players to Choose: Save Sick Kids or Anti-Tank Mines?
My gang of helldivers are (in our head canon) from Marfark, so there's no question about which planet we are liberating first. Dudes gotta go free their home planet first. We have family there.
Re: Helldivers Turn on Arrowhead Following Undemocratic Firing of Community Manager
Some funny comments in this thread about how Helldivers 2 community is this or that and the dudes commenting are basing this off of 4-5K people screaming (a mere droplet in an ocean compared to a MILLION dudes and dudettes on that discord). Awesome job lads in the comments, great virtue signaling. Bravo.
Re: Helldivers 2 CEO Praises 'Willpower' of Community in Sony Showdown
Would have amounted to nothing had Steam not refused to play this game (pun definitely intended) with Sony.
Steam pulled a Sony (remeber how ruthless they were to Cyberpunk on their store) by removing the game from stores where psn is nowhere to be seen. Sony went "ugh, right in the wallet, huh? I think I'm hurting" and went all soft.
The best thing, Sony had no reason to go this hard and this tone deaf.
Sony could have done this so much better... "We have some great news! Linking to PSN account issues have been resolved. If you decide to link your accounts it will help avoid issues with social part of the Managed Democracy's freedom loving diving! And to show appreciation, Superearth has some special armor and capes for those brave accounts-linking helldivers. Link your accounts today! Managed Democracy depends on it!"
No, I don't think the requirement itself was any different than what other publishers are doing but the way it was put back in play and having it be a requirement without covering all the territories where the game was being sold in is some 2006 era Sony
Re: Sony Doubles Down on Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement by Taking It Off Sale for PC in Numerous Countries
@Stickleman consider yourself lucky. I on the other hand am using an alternate HD2 account on steam to bridge the problems between my prime on ps5 and my friends on steam which I lost the ability to "see" since a month and a half now.
I raised a support request with Arrowhead and they acknowledged the issue and are working on it. I am guessing the mandatory linking to psn and moving all social related database(s) transactions/messaging/status info whatever blabla is behind it over to PSN will solve this.
Re: Sony Doubles Down on Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement by Taking It Off Sale for PC in Numerous Countries
@Stickleman "hasn't been an issue since launch" ooooh my dear child, you have no clue about unresolved social features in HD2 which are not working and that's because you don't have a big number of helldivers in your friend list across systems. They absolutely need this to sort the issues out.
Re: Sony Doubles Down on Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement by Taking It Off Sale for PC in Numerous Countries
@Fyz306903 they are not. It's the vocal minority.
Re: Sony Doubles Down on Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement by Taking It Off Sale for PC in Numerous Countries
@Cutmastavictory the price of the ps3 is not the issue here dude. The way they go about it is and the messaging. Focus dude.
As for the feature, you can find a lot of excuses but that is a big no no and they got slammed with a lawsuit which they lost. Sony is like every corpo, intrinsically soulless.
Re: Sony Doubles Down on Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement by Taking It Off Sale for PC in Numerous Countries
1. People are blowing this out of proportion. Steam will be fine. Sony will be fine. Arrowhead will be fine.
2. PC gamers could have shut up and just created psn accounts like they do for every other major publisher.
3. As for Sony and how they are handling this, I sense there are a lot of very young and inexperienced dudes on this site. We're talking about Sony here, the OG "don't give a @#%& about consumers and what they think" corpo. This is the same company that told us to get a second job to afford a ps3, then took a touted feature of that same device out with a firmware update. They literally took away what they advertised the device to be. It's Sony. A big corpo machine which doesn't care. The only time they appear to care is when they have the boot of their competitors on their face. Buy more xboxes if you want a better Sony (but this will take care of itself when the next xbox comes out in 2025 with an nvidia gpu; you read it here first, you're welcome dudes).
Re: Mar 2024 USA Sales: Dragon's Dogma 2 Tops the Charts, Helldivers 2 Is Unstoppable
Helldivers 2 has just started dudes. It is yet going to grow. We are yet to see vehicles added.
Then, there will be weapons, armours, helmets and vehicles customization/skill tree, so... the game will be totally different than that we started playing two months ago.
I am playing nothing else since it came out, but I have a great gang to dive with and we met some far out dudes in public matches so our circle of friends to play it with has grown.
GOTY material 💯
Re: Helldivers 2 Democratic Detonation Warbond Offers New, Explosive Peacekeeping Options
Just by playin two hours a day, I already have 3000 sc waiting for the next warbond. I have both previous ones. The thing is, I earned sc for one of them and for the other I paid a tenner and got it. That tenner has a return of approximately 3 monetary units in the form of 300 sc, so what I'm saying is that it's all extremely fair.
If you enjoy this game, and cleanup levels (my dudes and I play like that - if we are after xp and rare and ultra rare samples then we play difficulty level 7-9 we complete main tasks and whatever else we can and extract if possible; If we are after medals, RS and SC, we go to lower difficulty 4-5 and 100% each map, no stone left unturned).