Unfortunately, consumers do it themselves. If you ever wondered why games are microtransaction hellscapes now, it's because of fools who vote for it with their wallets.
@twenty90seven "You say you are lying, but if everything you say is a lie, then you are telling the truth, but you cannot tell the truth because everything you say is a lie, but you lie." - Star Trek
@nomither6 The browser comes with great risks and that's why it's gone. Of course, there are always security risks and considerations of that nature, but I am confident Sony expects Microsoft to pull some browser-based Game Pass shenanigans, too.
Isn't the whole point that the PS5 Pro looks like PS5 games in fidelity mode, but you ALSO get the performance of performance mode? Mark Cerny said as much. Comparing screenshots, even those from a compressed video, shouldn't yield much of a difference when comparing fidelity mode on PS5. How games run will be the difference and you can't see that in screenshots. People sure can be clowns.
There is a $600 Xbox Series X with 2TB of (slow) storage. It does have a disc drive, but expecting a console with far better specs to be sold for the same price or less is asinine.
"Lack of competition." What a bunch of clowns. Microsoft has a $600 2TB Xbox Series X. How is the 2TB PS5 Pro also supposed to be $600 with far better specs?
I expected this because they can make far more money per sale selling directly than they can through retailers. I intend to wait for the PS5 Pro, so I can use my Circle card (previously called Red card) and get 5% off. It's not much, but it's something.
@RubyCarbuncle You're going to have to elaborate on that (incorrect) position because these consoles effectively are packaged PCs, so perform EXACTLY like a customized PC. That's why a $700 console can perform like a PC that costs much more.
I'm confident my PC will still outperform the PS5 Pro, but my PC also cost 3X the price of the PS5 Pro when I built it. For context, my GPU (Asus TUF Radeon 6900XT OC is $899 right now on sale from the list price of $1,200) at Amazon. It's way stronger than the GPU in the PS5 Pro, but is itself not able to play games without a CPU, storage, RAM, etc.
@Angelus3K
The outrage isn't rightly warranted. The device isn't for everyone and that's fine, but $700 for what it offers is perfectly reasonable. It will have comparable performance to a PC at half the cost.
The game is very fun despite the whiny community constantly, well, whining. With each update, the game just gets better and better. Any day now, we'll also hear about the upcoming warbond, too. Yeah buddy!
Nice! I don't have to buy an expansion SSD because 2TB is all I need, which saves some money. I probably spent $700 buying a launch PS5 with a nice 1TB SSD.
I don't think $700 is the right price without a disc drive because that makes the real price around $780. That is definitely too much. A price increase is one thing, but a price increase AND shrinkflation is where I draw the line.
On the other hand, things cost what they cost. If I want the best console gaming experience, and I do, I need to fork out $700 or not have the best console gaming experience. It's a choice we all have to make.
I think $700 is a fair price given the world economic realities that prevent the PS5 from being reduced in price. $200 over the base PS5 makes sense, but the lack of a disc drive, even though I don't use it, is itself an unacceptable price increase, however.
The separate drive is a genius move on Sony's part from a manufacturing and business point of view, but it is not as consumer-friendly as it appears.
@OldGamer999 I missed it comes with 2TB. Folks are not really mentioning that, but surely that contributes to the price. With 2TB, I won't need to buy an expansion SSD, which saves me money.
I think $700 is a fair price given the world economic realities that prevent the PS5 from being reduced in price. $200 over the base PS5 makes sense, but the lack of a disc drive, even though I don't use it, is itself an unacceptable price increase, however.
The separate drive is a genius move on Sony's part from a manufacturing and business point of view, but it is not as consumer-friendly as it appears.
Day Gone is a great game that got screwed by having reviews before the day one patch. It was an absolute shame Sony passed on a sequel and just as big of a shame that Garvin has been acting like a child ever since.
While he was on the Sacred Symbols podcast, he didn't do his reputation any favors with some of the stuff he was saying.
I didn't see a way to enter this sweepstakes without having Twitter, which is a shame. I deleted Twitter as soon as that absolute clown, Elon Musk, bought it. I already didn't like it much, but I (rightfully) knew it would degrade immensely once he took over.
@Rob_230 You listed inFamous twice, but I am down with that because we REALLY need a new inFamous. Marvel took over the superhero stuff for Sony, but I think there is room for Sony's original stuff, too.
@Boxmonkey I disagree. They don't have to say anything. The discourse seems to be helping them. Either way, the game is not on Xbox, whether that is because Sony makes deals to get great games for their fans or the Xbox Series S blows, it's a win for them.
I hope this is not a direct result of my comment "no upgrade path = no buy." I mean, that is true, but I don't want it to be my fault. Layoffs are awful.
I like(d) Paul Tassi's Destiny content, but that's about it. He does seem to be overly defensive of Xbox and quite short-sighted at times which puts me off. As another commenter pointed out, he reminds me of Destin Legerie from IGN. I used to listen to Podcast Unlocked (IGN's Xbox podcast) every week for many years, but stopped when Destin was championing Microsoft buying up everything they can and running Sony out of business. That was just too stupid for me.
Is the green ranger divisive? He's been my favorite since his first appearance. I've also liked Jason David Frank (the actor that portrays the green ranger) because he was always so involved in martial arts and nerd culture. RIP
@Titntin You certainly speak the truth, but I like having a disc drive just so I can play anything I want and I'm not limited to digital media. I've been buying only digital games for over a decade on console and almost two decades on PC, but I still like to have a disc drive.
@Cry_Zero I mean, they could just charge you more and include the disc drive. Maybe they will do that in addition to a model without, but I suspect they will release consoles for less money without a disc drive since they sell the drive separately. Giving folks the choice and an upgrade path seems more pro-consumer than you are saying.
That is definitely a nice selection. Like @MickOnYourFace, I am not into the sport of baseball, but I enjoy the games when I do play them. I will give this one a whirl. Since my wife and daughter love Harry Potter, maybe they will play Quidditch Champions.
@nomither6 Indeed. I rarely pre-order games and typically only do so when I want a statue or something in limited supply (Spider-Man 2 and Space Marine 2). There have been five exceptions over the past decade:
Final Fantasy Rebirth because it came with the previous game, which I didn't own yet.
God of War (2018) and God of War Ragnarök because I absolutely adore the God of War series and it is what got me into PlayStation in the first place.
C&C Remastered because the first game was so very impactful for me. It was the first RTS I ever played and I managed to buy it on accident. It started my love for RTS games.
Astro Bot because I know the game is going to be great and I wanted to send a message!
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Re: Blizzard Reportedly Made $150 Million in Diablo 4 Microtransactions
Unfortunately, consumers do it themselves. If you ever wondered why games are microtransaction hellscapes now, it's because of fools who vote for it with their wallets.
Re: Fun As Hell Free-to-Play Racing Game Faaast Penguin Slides to PS5 Next Week
@twenty90seven
"You say you are lying, but if everything you say is a lie, then you are telling the truth, but you cannot tell the truth because everything you say is a lie, but you lie." - Star Trek
Computer explodes
Re: Latest PS5 Firmware Adds Welcome Hub, Adaptive Controller Charging, Much More
@nomither6
The browser comes with great risks and that's why it's gone. Of course, there are always security risks and considerations of that nature, but I am confident Sony expects Microsoft to pull some browser-based Game Pass shenanigans, too.
Re: Feature: PS5 Pro's Been Clowned on By the Entire Internet, and the Memes Will Make You Laugh
@Lastochka
100%
Re: Feature: PS5 Pro's Been Clowned on By the Entire Internet, and the Memes Will Make You Laugh
@MikeOrator
Right. People going nuts over the price and downplaying the differences strike me as the sort of people who dont't do their research. Sad.
Re: Feature: PS5 Pro's Been Clowned on By the Entire Internet, and the Memes Will Make You Laugh
Isn't the whole point that the PS5 Pro looks like PS5 games in fidelity mode, but you ALSO get the performance of performance mode? Mark Cerny said as much. Comparing screenshots, even those from a compressed video, shouldn't yield much of a difference when comparing fidelity mode on PS5. How games run will be the difference and you can't see that in screenshots. People sure can be clowns.
Re: Poll: Would You Buy PS5 Pro If It Was Cheaper?
There is a $600 Xbox Series X with 2TB of (slow) storage. It does have a disc drive, but expecting a console with far better specs to be sold for the same price or less is asinine.
Re: Lack of Competition from Xbox Partly Why PS5 Pro Is $700, Says Analyst
"Lack of competition." What a bunch of clowns. Microsoft has a $600 2TB Xbox Series X. How is the 2TB PS5 Pro also supposed to be $600 with far better specs?
Re: PS5 Pro Pre-Orders Will Be Exclusive to PS Direct for Two Weeks
I expected this because they can make far more money per sale selling directly than they can through retailers. I intend to wait for the PS5 Pro, so I can use my Circle card (previously called Red card) and get 5% off. It's not much, but it's something.
Re: Prospective PS5 Pro Buyers Cause Surge in Disc Drive Sales
@RubyCarbuncle
You're going to have to elaborate on that (incorrect) position because these consoles effectively are packaged PCs, so perform EXACTLY like a customized PC. That's why a $700 console can perform like a PC that costs much more.
I'm confident my PC will still outperform the PS5 Pro, but my PC also cost 3X the price of the PS5 Pro when I built it. For context, my GPU (Asus TUF Radeon 6900XT OC is $899 right now on sale from the list price of $1,200) at Amazon. It's way stronger than the GPU in the PS5 Pro, but is itself not able to play games without a CPU, storage, RAM, etc.
Re: Prospective PS5 Pro Buyers Cause Surge in Disc Drive Sales
@Angelus3K
The outrage isn't rightly warranted. The device isn't for everyone and that's fine, but $700 for what it offers is perfectly reasonable. It will have comparable performance to a PC at half the cost.
Re: Space Marine 2 Enjoys a Launch Worthy of the God-Emperor Himself
Nice! I was greatly anticipating this game, so I'm happy it turned out great and is also popular. I'd love more AAA Warhammer 40K games.
Re: Arrowhead Offers Peek at Helldivers 2 Patch Meant to Satisfy the Masses
@ShadowofSparta
The game is fun, what can I say?
Re: Arrowhead Offers Peek at Helldivers 2 Patch Meant to Satisfy the Masses
The game is very fun despite the whiny community constantly, well, whining. With each update, the game just gets better and better. Any day now, we'll also hear about the upcoming warbond, too. Yeah buddy!
Re: Arrowhead Offers Peek at Helldivers 2 Patch Meant to Satisfy the Masses
@Xbox_Dashboard
It is getting more armor penetration, too, so it will work better than before. They mention it destroying hulks, for example.
Re: Roughly 50 Games Ready for PS5 Pro Launch with Dedicated Patches
Surely this was the reason I haven't played Final Fantasy Rebirth yet!
Re: In Case You Missed It, PS5 Pro Has a 2TB SSD Included
Nice! I don't have to buy an expansion SSD because 2TB is all I need, which saves some money. I probably spent $700 buying a launch PS5 with a nice 1TB SSD.
Re: Talking Point: Is PS5 Pro Way Too Expensive?
I don't think $700 is the right price without a disc drive because that makes the real price around $780. That is definitely too much. A price increase is one thing, but a price increase AND shrinkflation is where I draw the line.
On the other hand, things cost what they cost. If I want the best console gaming experience, and I do, I need to fork out $700 or not have the best console gaming experience. It's a choice we all have to make.
Re: Poll: Are You Sold on PS5 Pro?
I think $700 is a fair price given the world economic realities that prevent the PS5 from being reduced in price. $200 over the base PS5 makes sense, but the lack of a disc drive, even though I don't use it, is itself an unacceptable price increase, however.
The separate drive is a genius move on Sony's part from a manufacturing and business point of view, but it is not as consumer-friendly as it appears.
Re: Gallery: PS5 Pro Is Looking Sleek in These Official Shots
@OldGamer999
I missed it comes with 2TB. Folks are not really mentioning that, but surely that contributes to the price. With 2TB, I won't need to buy an expansion SSD, which saves me money.
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
I think $700 is a fair price given the world economic realities that prevent the PS5 from being reduced in price. $200 over the base PS5 makes sense, but the lack of a disc drive, even though I don't use it, is itself an unacceptable price increase, however.
The separate drive is a genius move on Sony's part from a manufacturing and business point of view, but it is not as consumer-friendly as it appears.
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
Maybe it is a blessing I didn't start Final Fantasy Rebirth yet. I'd definitely play it on the Pro when it is updated.
Re: Ubisoft Investor Calls for Company to Go Private, and CEO Yves Guillemot to Be Replaced
"Good guy" Microsoft is licking their lips.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2?
Where's the "For the Emperor!" option in the poll??
Re: Days Gone Director Roasts 'Small Game' Astro Bot PS5 for Deacon St John Cameo
Day Gone is a great game that got screwed by having reviews before the day one patch. It was an absolute shame Sony passed on a sequel and just as big of a shame that Garvin has been acting like a child ever since.
While he was on the Sacred Symbols podcast, he didn't do his reputation any favors with some of the stuff he was saying.
Re: Ceramite-Armoured PS5 Looks Like a Worthy Space Marine 2 Relic
I didn't see a way to enter this sweepstakes without having Twitter, which is a shame. I deleted Twitter as soon as that absolute clown, Elon Musk, bought it. I already didn't like it much, but I (rightfully) knew it would degrade immensely once he took over.
Re: Sony Execs Seem to Think the Company Doesn't Have Enough Original IP
Maybe they will not relegate Insomniac to a Marvel factory in the future then. No? Sad.
Re: PS5 Pro Seemingly Teased in New 30th Anniversary Artwork
Sell me one already!!!
Re: Soapbox: Astro Bot PS5 Is Not a Graveyard, It's a Joyful Demonstration of Sony's Unique Ability to Reinvent Itself
@JohntheRaptor
Not marketable? What are you on about?
Re: Astro Bot (PS5) - One of the Greatest PlayStation Platformers of All Time
@Rob_230
You listed inFamous twice, but I am down with that because we REALLY need a new inFamous. Marvel took over the superhero stuff for Sony, but I think there is room for Sony's original stuff, too.
Re: Astro Bot (PS5) - One of the Greatest PlayStation Platformers of All Time
My body is ready!!! I have been wanting a way to reward the developers for their awesome work with Astro's Playroom and this is it!!
Re: Concord PS5, PC Scalpers Attempt to Cash In on 'Rare Collector's Item'
If you buy from scalpers, you are the reason scalpers exist.
Re: Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2 (PS5) - Grimdark Shooter Is an Instant Co-Op Classic
MY COLLECTOR'S EDITION SHOULD BE HERE ANY DAY NOW!!!!!! Praise the Emperor!!!
Re: Black Myth: Wukong's Xbox Delay Isn't Due to Platform Limitations, Says Microsoft
@Boxmonkey
I disagree. They don't have to say anything. The discourse seems to be helping them. Either way, the game is not on Xbox, whether that is because Sony makes deals to get great games for their fans or the Xbox Series S blows, it's a win for them.
Re: Black Myth: Wukong's Xbox Delay Isn't Due to Platform Limitations, Says Microsoft
Man, Microsoft trying to save face so bad.
Re: Layoffs Hit Ballistic Moon Ahead of Until Dawn PS5's October Release
I hope this is not a direct result of my comment "no upgrade path = no buy." I mean, that is true, but I don't want it to be my fault. Layoffs are awful.
Re: LEGO Harry Potter Collection Will Be Re-Released for a Third Time on PS5
"If you already own the PS4 version of LEGO Harry Potter Collection then there won’t be a free upgrade, but you will be eligible for a discount."
If the discount is anything short of 90% off, I am not interested.
Re: Upcoming PS5 Games for September and October 2024
The audacity to not give Space Marine 2 its own called-out section!!!
Re: Upcoming PS5 Games for September and October 2024
@Splat
How does one do that? I have the game pre-ordered. Is it automatic?
Re: Sony Accused of Signing Secret PS5 Console Exclusivity Agreement with Black Myth: Wukong
I like(d) Paul Tassi's Destiny content, but that's about it. He does seem to be overly defensive of Xbox and quite short-sighted at times which puts me off. As another commenter pointed out, he reminds me of Destin Legerie from IGN. I used to listen to Podcast Unlocked (IGN's Xbox podcast) every week for many years, but stopped when Destin was championing Microsoft buying up everything they can and running Sony out of business. That was just too stupid for me.
Re: Green Ranger Tommy Oliver Joins the Roster of Power Rangers: Rita's Rewind on PS5, PS4
@3Above
Profile picture checks out.
Re: Divisive Green Ranger Tommy Oliver Joins the Roster of Power Rangers: Rita's Rewind on PS5, PS4
Is the green ranger divisive? He's been my favorite since his first appearance. I've also liked Jason David Frank (the actor that portrays the green ranger) because he was always so involved in martial arts and nerd culture. RIP
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro Design Seemingly Leaked
@Titntin
You certainly speak the truth, but I like having a disc drive just so I can play anything I want and I'm not limited to digital media. I've been buying only digital games for over a decade on console and almost two decades on PC, but I still like to have a disc drive.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro Design Seemingly Leaked
@Cry_Zero
I mean, they could just charge you more and include the disc drive. Maybe they will do that in addition to a model without, but I suspect they will release consoles for less money without a disc drive since they sell the drive separately. Giving folks the choice and an upgrade path seems more pro-consumer than you are saying.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro Design Seemingly Leaked
Get in my belly!!!
Re: Rumour: Crysis Battle Royale Game Dumped So Dev Can Focus on Crysis 4
They (seemingly) have their priorities straight.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for September 2024 Announced
That is definitely a nice selection. Like @MickOnYourFace, I am not into the sport of baseball, but I enjoy the games when I do play them. I will give this one a whirl. Since my wife and daughter love Harry Potter, maybe they will play Quidditch Champions.
Re: Mark Cerny's Feedback on PS5's Astro Bot: 'Now This Is a Game'
@nomither6
Indeed. I rarely pre-order games and typically only do so when I want a statue or something in limited supply (Spider-Man 2 and Space Marine 2). There have been five exceptions over the past decade:
Final Fantasy Rebirth because it came with the previous game, which I didn't own yet.
God of War (2018) and God of War Ragnarök because I absolutely adore the God of War series and it is what got me into PlayStation in the first place.
C&C Remastered because the first game was so very impactful for me. It was the first RTS I ever played and I managed to buy it on accident. It started my love for RTS games.
Astro Bot because I know the game is going to be great and I wanted to send a message!
Re: Mark Cerny's Feedback on PS5's Astro Bot: 'Now This Is a Game'
@Splat I, too, hope people vote with their wallets! We need more creative and playful games from Sony. Greatly expand Team Asobi and let's gooooo!!!
Re: An Eternity of War Awaits as Space Marine 2's Post-Launch Roadmap Is Revealed
I am just so dang excited for this game. My collector's edition should be arriving any day now. I mussssst have it! My precious!