@pyrrhic_victory I totally agree with you. It is absolute madness when people compare the two strategies or justify Microsoft buying Bethesda to make Bethesda games exclusive because Sony pays for timed exclusivity here and there. Apples and oranges.
@__jamiie Aside from Bungie, which comes off to me as a knee-jerk reaction to Xbox's buying sprees, PlayStation only purchases studios they have a history of working with and certainly never bought any publishers to gain control over game franchises that are already popular elsewhere. That is the key difference. Microsoft and Sony both do timed exclusivity deals, so no real comparison to make there.
I think there is also a difference because Xbox is out there acting like they are super pro-consumer while making these ultimately anti-consumer, industry-damaging moves. PlayStation doesn't say nearly as much as Xbox does. Phil loves the attention. The guy buys up studios and all their studios are epically mismanaged, but he says nice things and wears gaming t-shirts, so we're supposed to like him? Nah.
@__jamiie
Starfield, Redfall, Hi-Fi Rush (until shareholders forced Phil's hand recently), and Hellblade 2 (the first game was on both Xbox and PlayStation). I mean they are all stinkers except Hi-Fi Rush, but PlayStation versions of at least Starfield and Redfall were canceled when "Gaming for All" Phil bought the studios, which is the point I was making. Likely, ports of those and every Xbox game will come eventually as Xbox transitions into Microsoft Gaming under the watchful gaze of shareholders finally noticing Xbox.
Can you imagine how much damage Microsoft/Xbox's already paper-thin reputation would take if they made Doom (or any multi-platform franchise exclusive)? It would be immense. If it's true Doom is remaining multi-platform and that was always the plan, I'll give "Gaming for All" Phil some credit because it's actually one thing he didn't lie about. The man took more games away from players than he gave to them, but after the ABK acquisition caused the eyes of the shareholders to actually look at Xbox for a change, they are forcing games to go multi-platform to grow revenue. That likely wouldn't have happened if they didn't buy ABK. Phil got his wish, but the monkey paw curled.
With a subtitle like that, how could I not click??
I still need to play Rogue Trader. I enjoyed Owlcat's Pathfinder games. I waited a year after release to play those, so there would be a great deal of patching and they still had bugs. I'm doing the same with Rogue Trader.
I had the collector's edition pre-ordered as soon as they went live. I really want that statue because, despite being a massive Warhammer 40K fan and statue collector, I have zero Warhammer 40K statues. I typically don't pre-order anything unless I'm really looking forward to the game and it has a substantial incentive for pre-ordering, like a statue, not knickknacks and digital items. I hope the game is good. I can always cancel my pre-order if not.
The first game had awesome sound design and mediocre everything else. Maybe I'll check out the second game when it eventually comes to PS+. It certainly is not worth the $50 current asking price and I suspect that will become evident as sales figures are revealed. Game Pass will have its own deleterious effect on the game, too. RIP in peace, Ninja Theory.
@Americansamurai1 PlayStation does have a lack of communication, but some, including myself, argue that is a good thing because they are doing so well without saying anything. In fact, they don't say much, so they don't get all the negative press around things they say or don't say. Phil Spencer, Sarah Bond, and Matt Booty over on Xbox get caught in lies constantly and are always out there talking out both sides of their mouths, so you see so much content out there just trying to interpret what they are saying or calling them out.
@Americansamurai1 I suppose you could be right. I just hope they don't start doing stupid things like sell $20 weapons or armor sets to support the game being free-to-play. The monetization currently is quite generous.
@Americansamurai1 They would have to completely revamp the business model of the game to support it going to free-to-play because the monetization in the game is not egregious and certainly cannot support the game itself. I can see the game coming to PS+ eventually, years from now, but porting the game to mobile is wild. I can't see that happening.
@QiaraIris Off the top of my head, I can think of two unrelated games named "Prey," two games named "God of War," two games named "Twisted Metal," two games named "Tomb Raider," and two games named "Doom." There are almost definitely tons more.
@CielloArc They promised parity, but Sony is not dumb enough to put it on PS+. Not only would it cost a lot of money to put it on the service, it would also cost a ton in lost revenue.
It's expected Call of Duty will launch into Game Pass and that's going to really hurt the Activision-Blizzard part of Xbox. The revenue loss will be massive, but it's what Xbox asked for. Unfortunately for Xbox, after buying ABK, Xbox is no longer a pet project and shareholders want a return on their large investment. Expect the losses to be made up elsewhere such as releasing actual Xbox games like Halo and Gears of War, etc. on other, more popular, platforms and Xbox going fully multi-platform.
It's worth noting Automatons are significantly more difficult (and annoying) to fight, so most people keep going after Terminids regardless of orders. Also, Terminids attack in far great numbers, so it's easier to get more Terminid kills. Also also, brand new players all fight Terminids by default and filthy casuals don't pay attention to orders.
These figures cement why Sony's PC strategy is vastly superior, which I have been saying from the start. They can still get some revenue from PC sales, but do not cannibalize their console sales like how Xbox does. So, if there is any wonder why Xbox is in trouble to the tune of needing to spend $80B more than Xbox has ever made over the last few years and go multi-platform, it's because they implemented a system that tanks their console sales and implemented a system that tanks their game sales.
I can't imagine it does cost that much to port since the consoles are as similar with each other as they are with PC now, so it's never been easier. However, there are lots of games out there that go to PlayStation and developers forego an Xbox version by choice (i.e. without PlayStation signing any exclusivity). That is because they don't believe making a port is worth the investment. Even if they do manage to make some profit from Xbox sales, they likely have determined their resources are better spent working on the next game or whatever.
They'll release games everywhere but Xbox unless Microsoft pays them to put their games on Game Pass. The reality is they would be very unlikely to sell enough units on Xbox to justify the porting costs.
I really like the airburst rocket launcher and use it as much as I can, but the choice to liberate Penta or Choohe was not a good one. You could just immediately start liberating Penta (to get the airburst rocket launcher). You had to liberate a planet before you could even get to Choohe. There was no way we were going to get the anti-tank mines.
It could still be. Without the multiplayer working in certain regions those consumers could argue they are being sold and inferior product for (presumably) the same price. That doesn't look good to regulators.
Releasing games on PC at a later date is a much better strategy than not releasing them at all and certainly monumentally better than releasing on PC day 1 like Xbox does. Xbox's approach devalues their console and Sony's does not.
Xbox has no soul. IGN should know that by now. In any case, on the Sacred Symbols podcast, they mentioned ABK being a poison pill. Before that acquisition, shareholders gave zero craps about Xbox, but after that massive amount of investment in Xbox, they want a return on that investment. Phil may have gotten his victory, but now Xbox is under the microscope. The thing he thought might save Xbox as we know it certainly seems to be hastening its demise instead.
I think it's a good thing how engaged with the community Arrowhead is, but I also think they should have just released the warbond as planned without calling any additional attention to it. It's a good idea not to cede too much power to the players, especially not to the more vocal members of the community who would be the ones more likely to participate in polling and already proved they have severe reading comprehension issues.
@nomither6 There are tons of Batman stories they can tell that are adjacent to the events of the current Arkham games or perhaps they can tell so many after Arkham Origins before the main trilogy. Heck, a reboot altogether would be much better.
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Re: Warhammer 40K: Space Marine 2 Says No to Microtransactions, Despite Its Multiplayer Modes
I am really looking forward to this game. There are not enough great action-oriented Warhammer 40K games. I need more!!
Re: Rumour: New DOOM Game Reveal at Xbox Showcase, Coming to PS5
@pyrrhic_victory
I totally agree with you. It is absolute madness when people compare the two strategies or justify Microsoft buying Bethesda to make Bethesda games exclusive because Sony pays for timed exclusivity here and there. Apples and oranges.
Also, awesome name.
Re: Rumour: New DOOM Game Reveal at Xbox Showcase, Coming to PS5
@__jamiie
Aside from Bungie, which comes off to me as a knee-jerk reaction to Xbox's buying sprees, PlayStation only purchases studios they have a history of working with and certainly never bought any publishers to gain control over game franchises that are already popular elsewhere. That is the key difference. Microsoft and Sony both do timed exclusivity deals, so no real comparison to make there.
I think there is also a difference because Xbox is out there acting like they are super pro-consumer while making these ultimately anti-consumer, industry-damaging moves. PlayStation doesn't say nearly as much as Xbox does. Phil loves the attention. The guy buys up studios and all their studios are epically mismanaged, but he says nice things and wears gaming t-shirts, so we're supposed to like him? Nah.
Re: Rumour: New DOOM Game Reveal at Xbox Showcase, Coming to PS5
@__jamiie
Starfield, Redfall, Hi-Fi Rush (until shareholders forced Phil's hand recently), and Hellblade 2 (the first game was on both Xbox and PlayStation). I mean they are all stinkers except Hi-Fi Rush, but PlayStation versions of at least Starfield and Redfall were canceled when "Gaming for All" Phil bought the studios, which is the point I was making. Likely, ports of those and every Xbox game will come eventually as Xbox transitions into Microsoft Gaming under the watchful gaze of shareholders finally noticing Xbox.
Re: Rumour: New DOOM Game Reveal at Xbox Showcase, Coming to PS5
Can you imagine how much damage Microsoft/Xbox's already paper-thin reputation would take if they made Doom (or any multi-platform franchise exclusive)? It would be immense. If it's true Doom is remaining multi-platform and that was always the plan, I'll give "Gaming for All" Phil some credit because it's actually one thing he didn't lie about. The man took more games away from players than he gave to them, but after the ABK acquisition caused the eyes of the shareholders to actually look at Xbox for a change, they are forcing games to go multi-platform to grow revenue. That likely wouldn't have happened if they didn't buy ABK. Phil got his wish, but the monkey paw curled.
Re: Tyranid Genestealers Detected in Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader Expansion Void Shadows
With a subtitle like that, how could I not click??
I still need to play Rogue Trader. I enjoyed Owlcat's Pathfinder games. I waited a year after release to play those, so there would be a great deal of patching and they still had bugs. I'm doing the same with Rogue Trader.
Re: Helldivers 2 Players Teased with Twin-Linked Autocannon EXO-49 Emancipator Exosuit
That will be a nice addition to liberty's arsenal!
Re: Warhammer 40K: Space Marine 2 Confirms PvE and PvP Multiplayer Modes
The PVE mode sounds and looks fun! As the Emperor wills.
Re: Warhammer 40K: Space Marine 2 Confirms PvE and PvP Multiplayer Modes
I had the collector's edition pre-ordered as soon as they went live. I really want that statue because, despite being a massive Warhammer 40K fan and statue collector, I have zero Warhammer 40K statues. I typically don't pre-order anything unless I'm really looking forward to the game and it has a substantial incentive for pre-ordering, like a statue, not knickknacks and digital items. I hope the game is good. I can always cancel my pre-order if not.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Stellar Blade Is on Top Again, Sells 10,000+ Copies
@Nei
Yep. I have to roll my eyes whenever I see someone say PS5 has no games because it's a ridiculous claim. PS5 owners have been eating so well.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Stellar Blade Is on Top Again, Sells 10,000+ Copies
Nintendo's dominance in Japan continues to astound me. I plan on picking up Stellar Blade when I finish Rebirth.
Re: The Next Naughty Dog Game Its 'Most Thrilling Yet', Says Neil Druckmann
Neil is a legend that has proven himself many times. I have full faith he'll deliver something great.
Re: Epic Games May Be Sony's Most Important Partner Right Now
I am just glad Sony didn't make all their PC games exclusive to the Epic Games Store. That would have been a bad move.
Re: Soapbox: Once a PS4 Console Exclusive, PS5 Players Are Missing a Visual Stunner in Hellblade 2
The first game had awesome sound design and mediocre everything else. Maybe I'll check out the second game when it eventually comes to PS+. It certainly is not worth the $50 current asking price and I suspect that will become evident as sales figures are revealed. Game Pass will have its own deleterious effect on the game, too. RIP in peace, Ninja Theory.
Re: Some PS5 Fans Think the Rumoured PlayStation Showcase Will Be Announced Today
@Americansamurai1
PlayStation does have a lack of communication, but some, including myself, argue that is a good thing because they are doing so well without saying anything. In fact, they don't say much, so they don't get all the negative press around things they say or don't say. Phil Spencer, Sarah Bond, and Matt Booty over on Xbox get caught in lies constantly and are always out there talking out both sides of their mouths, so you see so much content out there just trying to interpret what they are saying or calling them out.
Re: New Helldivers 2 CEO Hired So Former Lead Can Focus on Game Development
@Americansamurai1
I suppose you could be right. I just hope they don't start doing stupid things like sell $20 weapons or armor sets to support the game being free-to-play. The monetization currently is quite generous.
Re: New Helldivers 2 CEO Hired So Former Lead Can Focus on Game Development
@Americansamurai1
They would have to completely revamp the business model of the game to support it going to free-to-play because the monetization in the game is not egregious and certainly cannot support the game itself. I can see the game coming to PS+ eventually, years from now, but porting the game to mobile is wild. I can't see that happening.
Re: New Helldivers 2 CEO Hired So Former Lead Can Focus on Game Development
@Americansamurai1
You see a lot of things that don't make sense.
Re: New Helldivers 2 CEO Hired So Former Lead Can Focus on Game Development
Congratulations to Arrowhead.
Re: Over 2,000 Big PS5, PS4 Games Going Cheap in New PS Store Sale
@Icey664
Right. I'm waiting, too.
Re: Helldivers 2 Updates Set to Slow Down as Dev Shares Concern Over Patch Quality
Do whatever you need to do, Arrowhead. My trust in them has been earned.
Re: Yes, the Next Madden on PS5, PS4 Is Called Madden NFL 25 Again
@QiaraIris
Off the top of my head, I can think of two unrelated games named "Prey," two games named "God of War," two games named "Twisted Metal," two games named "Tomb Raider," and two games named "Doom." There are almost definitely tons more.
CC: @BeerIsAwesome
Re: Microsoft Commits to Next Call of Duty Game on Xbox Game Pass, New Report Says
@CielloArc
They promised parity, but Sony is not dumb enough to put it on PS+. Not only would it cost a lot of money to put it on the service, it would also cost a ton in lost revenue.
Re: Microsoft Commits to Next Call of Duty Game on Xbox Game Pass, New Report Says
It's expected Call of Duty will launch into Game Pass and that's going to really hurt the Activision-Blizzard part of Xbox. The revenue loss will be massive, but it's what Xbox asked for. Unfortunately for Xbox, after buying ABK, Xbox is no longer a pet project and shareholders want a return on their large investment. Expect the losses to be made up elsewhere such as releasing actual Xbox games like Halo and Gears of War, etc. on other, more popular, platforms and Xbox going fully multi-platform.
Re: Players Fail Helldivers 2 Major Order, 'The Second Galactic War' Begins
It's worth noting Automatons are significantly more difficult (and annoying) to fight, so most people keep going after Terminids regardless of orders. Also, Terminids attack in far great numbers, so it's easier to get more Terminid kills. Also also, brand new players all fight Terminids by default and filthy casuals don't pay attention to orders.
Re: GTA Publisher Claims It 'Didn't Shutter' Roll7, Intercept Games
Because they didn't put actual shutters on the closed studios, the CEO will die on that "we did not shutter those studios" hill.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Stellar Blade PS5 Sales Hold Strong
Nintendo's dominance in Japan is just astounding.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Stellar Blade PS5 Sales Hold Strong
@The_Pixel_King
Good catch. @Get2SammyB should see this.
Re: Hi-Fi Rush Director 'Emotional' As Xbox Shutters Acclaimed Tango Gameworks Team
Tango Gameworks would have been just fine without Microsoft's meddling. Never forget.
Re: New PS2 Emulator Appears to Be Imminent on PS5, PS4
@AhmadSumadi
Man, I loved Champions of Norrath!
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Dated for 15th November in First Trailer
Finally, an AC game I have slightly more than 0 interest in.
Re: Sony Shipped 4.5 Million PS5's Last Quarter, Almost Five Times More Than Xbox Series X|S
These figures cement why Sony's PC strategy is vastly superior, which I have been saying from the start. They can still get some revenue from PC sales, but do not cannibalize their console sales like how Xbox does. So, if there is any wonder why Xbox is in trouble to the tune of needing to spend $80B more than Xbox has ever made over the last few years and go multi-platform, it's because they implemented a system that tanks their console sales and implemented a system that tanks their game sales.
Re: Sony Shipped 4.5 Million PS5's Last Quarter, Almost Five Times More Than Xbox Series X|S
@Perturbator
It already happens, particularly with Japanese games, and will happen more often.
Re: PS Portal Still Going Strong, Demand in USA Exceeds Supply
@slips666
Not a bad idea!!
Re: PS Portal Still Going Strong, Demand in USA Exceeds Supply
As soon as there is a deal on one, not just MSRP, I am going to buy one. I'd even take the standard 5% off at Target (with Circle Card).
Re: Square Enix to 'Aggressively' Pursue Multiplatform Strategy from Now On
I can't imagine it does cost that much to port since the consoles are as similar with each other as they are with PC now, so it's never been easier. However, there are lots of games out there that go to PlayStation and developers forego an Xbox version by choice (i.e. without PlayStation signing any exclusivity). That is because they don't believe making a port is worth the investment. Even if they do manage to make some profit from Xbox sales, they likely have determined their resources are better spent working on the next game or whatever.
Re: Helldivers 2 on PS5, PC Is Sony's Fastest Selling Game of All Time
Well-deserved success. The game has me hooked. Destiny 2 and World of Warcraft are the only other games I've been this obsessed with.
Re: Square Enix to 'Aggressively' Pursue Multiplatform Strategy from Now On
@Decimateh-xblz
Depending on the porting costs, yes.
Re: Square Enix to 'Aggressively' Pursue Multiplatform Strategy from Now On
They'll release games everywhere but Xbox unless Microsoft pays them to put their games on Game Pass. The reality is they would be very unlikely to sell enough units on Xbox to justify the porting costs.
Re: Fresh Sony Studio Reportedly Staffed by Former Deviation Games Devs
Investing in new studios and cultivating talent? What a novel idea!!
Re: Helldivers 2 Players Given Second Chance to Secure New Anti-Tank Stratagem
I really like the airburst rocket launcher and use it as much as I can, but the choice to liberate Penta or Choohe was not a good one. You could just immediately start liberating Penta (to get the airburst rocket launcher). You had to liberate a planet before you could even get to Choohe. There was no way we were going to get the anti-tank mines.
Re: Sony Delists Ghost of Tsushima PC from Steam Regions in Line with Helldivers 2
@Colt22
Different regulators, but yes, the regulators who approved Microsoft buying even more power are clearly very bad at their jobs.
Re: Sony Delists Ghost of Tsushima PC from Steam Regions in Line with Helldivers 2
@zhoont
It could still be. Without the multiplayer working in certain regions those consumers could argue they are being sold and inferior product for (presumably) the same price. That doesn't look good to regulators.
Re: Sony Delists Ghost of Tsushima PC from Steam Regions in Line with Helldivers 2
Wait.... JAPAN is a restricted country?!?
Re: Poll: Years Later, How Do You Feel About PlayStation's PC Strategy?
Releasing games on PC at a later date is a much better strategy than not releasing them at all and certainly monumentally better than releasing on PC day 1 like Xbox does. Xbox's approach devalues their console and Sony's does not.
Re: Founders, Long-Time Employees Reportedly Say Xbox Now Effectively Microsoft Gaming
Xbox has no soul. IGN should know that by now. In any case, on the Sacred Symbols podcast, they mentioned ABK being a poison pill. Before that acquisition, shareholders gave zero craps about Xbox, but after that massive amount of investment in Xbox, they want a return on that investment. Phil may have gotten his victory, but now Xbox is under the microscope. The thing he thought might save Xbox as we know it certainly seems to be hastening its demise instead.
Re: 'Negative Sentiment' Prompts Helldivers 2 Dev to Put Releasing Polar Patriots to a Vote
I think it's a good thing how engaged with the community Arrowhead is, but I also think they should have just released the warbond as planned without calling any additional attention to it. It's a good idea not to cede too much power to the players, especially not to the more vocal members of the community who would be the ones more likely to participate in polling and already proved they have severe reading comprehension issues.
Re: Warner Bros Revenue Plummets as Suicide Squad Falls Completely Short of Hogwarts Legacy
@Zenos
Your first sentence makes literally no sense, but the second one totally does. What a rollercoaster.
Re: Warner Bros Revenue Plummets as Suicide Squad Falls Completely Short of Hogwarts Legacy
@nomither6
There are tons of Batman stories they can tell that are adjacent to the events of the current Arkham games or perhaps they can tell so many after Arkham Origins before the main trilogy. Heck, a reboot altogether would be much better.
Re: Warner Bros Revenue Plummets as Suicide Squad Falls Completely Short of Hogwarts Legacy
I bet if Rocksteady made another great Arkham game, they would have matched or exceeded Hogwarts Legacy's revenue.