To my Push Square family: I thought the culture wars were bad over here. But I dared to venture elsewhere to get other opinions on this game and its reviews. I see now that we are a tame bunch. Though we sometimes go off the rails. It's nothing compared to what I just read. Yikes! Is nothing immune to this sort of discourse?!
@playstation1995 you have to understand that by today's way of judging things, the game itself doesn't have to be "bad" to be considered bad. Just have elements of real world persons/places/things that people don't like and it's "bad". My faith never wavered as far as Dragon Age goes. Even after the disaster that was Dragon Age 2.
The long awaited follow up to what is one of my top 5 favorite games of all time! I t hink I will be putting down ESO in favor of this! Simply. Cannot. Wait!!!
Fable is all I’m interested in. Also, kinda crazy for them to spend so much for ActiBlizz only to have all the games be on PlayStation anyway. But I guess now they get paid on all the sales so…
@BeerMonster it won’t. Not any longer. Which sucks because that and PS Plus are the 2 that I subscribe to. No subscription wil count anymore. It’s almost like they’re repaying the loyalty of being a subscriber with punishment for being a subscriber lol.
@DennisReynolds I mean, if you’re buying enough game that you’re gonna gain enough points for this to be “lucrative” then you’re probably not really benefiting from it.
With a roughly 4% points/cash ratio, it’ll take spending nearly $500 to get about $20 in Stars to cash out. But you’re correct, “worthless to me”. As I absolutely don’t buy that many games in a calendar year.
@DennisReynolds I'm a full-on digital gamer. Have been since early PS4. But I rarely buy games. But I do have a PS Plus and ESO+ subscription and that's who I get most of my points. Now all that is worthless as far as points go.
This whole thing is so worthless now! What, am I gonna just do it all for collectibles that no one else can see? And you discontinue Stars for my monthly subscription purchase?! That’s the worst part! Even my credit card company gives me points on subscriptions. Good lord, Sony!
@MikeOrator the stealth missions were tough but not unplayable. In fact, I've always found it funny how you can have instances where you're sneaking through a government facility, get caught, run a certain distance, and the guards just forget about it. I agree that there were parts of the game that were imperfect. But I didn't think the instant-fail stealth portions were it. Hell, the constant "Nix, over there..." was my most frustrating thing about the game and barely any reviewers even touched on that.
As much as I love Double Dragon. I can honestly say that this is not the Double Dragon I love! I hope there's a demo for this. Because if not, I will never give this game a chance lol.
I think people often fail to realize that just because they love a game, doesn't mean the game is necessarily a success. Like, there's nothing more I want in this gaming world more than Dark Cloud 3. But the game sold roughly 1.1 million worldwide. That's not considered to be a resounding success. I hate that it works this way, but gaming is a business after all.
So when a studio like Japan Studio shuts down, even after having "fan favorite" games. You have to realize that "fan favorite" doesn't mean commercial success.
THERE ARE TOO MANY RPGs BEING RELEASED!!! I’m only one man, gotdammit!
I absolutely love this PS5 generation! I have so much I want to play that I don’t play anything lol. Been stuck on Elder Scrolls Online for 10 years now.
Played the demo for a while during down time from ESO. When I turned off the demo (didn't even finish it) it'd been 5 hours of gameplay. I loved it! Likely a pick up for me!
It looks funs. But I'm still waiting for a price drop for Contra. Loved the demo! But can't see myself dropping $39.99 on it when there are better games out there for as low as only $10 more.
I love Horizon. I love LEGOs. But I don't love LEGO games! I'll be skipping this one. Hopefully the kiddies eat it up though. Because I love all the success Horizon has been experiencing.
@AdamNovice @get2sammyb @Frmknst I think gamers as a whole have come to see the industry only from their point of view. If games aren't geared toward them in particular then those games shouldn't exist. The past 4-6 months around here have brought me to that conclusion.
Most comments sections are littered with people who don't even care for the game they're commenting on. Just there to say they don't like it and want something else.
I've seen such diversity in this generation but most people see the opposite. I always have an analogy for this happening. It's like if you have 100 things, you give someone 90 of those 100 things, then give someone else the next 5 of those 100 things, the person who got the 90 will be upset that you've now decided to support someone else. That's basically what gaming has become; people who are upset that game companies now focus on gamers who aren't themselves.
Absolutely love the game! But I never play DLC for any games I love. I skipped Dragon Age: Inquisition DLC, both Horizon games, God of War, etc. I usually just move on to something else.
For perspective, I have a friend who has 223 physical games in his collection. He has a wall full and it takes up so much space. Unsightly for a guy like me who’s an absolute minimalist.
Myself, I have a digital console with 191 games. All you see is my console and my controller. Sure, the whole “no internet” thing comes into play sometimes (it’s been only twice so far). But even then, most of my games are very much accessible internet or not.
I understand the qualms about all digital. But tech for the most part has been moving in this direction. At some point physical will no longer be an option.
As I read this, I realize I paid full price for Outlaws and still don’t play it as much as many of my older games. I’m through paying for day 1’s unless it’s something I love a la Uncharted, TLOU, etc.
I’ve recently bought Outlaws and Wu Kong and still play Elder Scrolls Online far more than I play those 2 games. Furthermore, I was day 1 die Diablo IV and quit it after about a month and a half. Just unwise financial decisions made by a guy who manages money.
@gollumb82 @NEStalgia Switch is essentially a kids toy (as NES stated). And as parents, we all know kids toys usually hold 6-8 months of interest after purchase. The fact that its geared toward kids as a toy does help its sales. Especially for those parents who buy 2 because the kids wanna play together.
With all honesty though, I don't know a single family that either still uses their Switch, or uses it as their main console. I can vouch for my family and say that the thing has been in a box for about 3 years now. My son is 17 and now plays PC and PS5 games. My daughter is 11 and has little interest in video games anymore. The novelty has worn off.
As far as Switch 2 though, I think it'll do great because a new batch of kids will want 1, or maybe 2, depending on the household. The price likely won't be a factor since there's nothing more parents like to do than post a video of their kids' faces opening up the gift they actually asked for on Christmas day.
@LowDefAl ESO has had great stories and gameplay since day 1! Every zone feels like it’s a sequel to the previous story but also stand on their own if you don’t play the previous story.
At this point, one has to believe the only way anything not owned by MS would give MS any sort of exclusivity, timed or otherwise, is because they took a huge sum of cash up front. Not to say this hasn’t always been the case for all consoles. But the state XBOX is in right now, it has to be maybe thrice the price it used to be.
@jrt87 I don't know what you're doing here but it seems your naming characters from a time where cry woke wasn't yet a thing, or wasn't as big a thing as it is now. Any of those characters, save for GTA's and 50 Cent, would be deemed "woke" by today's standards. 50 Cent is a rapper and GTA's characters are in a "Black setting". They're where they "belong". Most all the others are outside of acceptable black spaces.
And maybe Dee Jay and Balrog would be OK because they're not main characters per se.
@taciturnbloke I didn't hear too much race-based pushback against that. Not to say it doesn't exist. But when I hear things like people were saying they felt less bad about Rue dying in the Hunger Games film because the actress was Black it kinda leaves a bad taste. Like, you see a child get killed and because she's Black you have less sympathy. It's kind of sick. But there are so many examples of this. Sorry to get off topic.
@naruball times are just what they are now. It kinda sucks. I've been called a "DEI hire" at my job as I'm the only non-white, non-female Bank Manager in my region. Never mind that I started as a Teller 10 years ago and have worked my way up. So yeah, as long as the outlier is a racial/gender/sexual(?) minority it'll always be deemed DEI.
@jrt87 kind of off topic here. But they added Black elves to LOTR and people lost their 💩. You think just because something is fantasy gamers will be OK with these changes? It’s pure speculation here, but if Nioh featured Yasuke, the reaction would be very similar to his inclusion in Assassin's Creed.
@naruball this is a great post! It’s exactly what I’ve said to some people. Like, I’ve never claimed Yasuke was a Samurai. But there are so many who will link to stories stating that he wasn’t. But I can link to stories stating that he was. I really don’t know. But folks will always follow links that confirm their biases.
@Toot1st no one cared?! You really believe this?! Dude, there was pushback similar to this! Just not as major because crying woke wasn’t a way of life in 2017 like it is today. Google “Assassin’s Creed Origins racism” and see how much “no one cared”.
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Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard (PS5) - The Best BioWare Game Since Mass Effect 3
To my Push Square family: I thought the culture wars were bad over here. But I dared to venture elsewhere to get other opinions on this game and its reviews. I see now that we are a tame bunch. Though we sometimes go off the rails. It's nothing compared to what I just read. Yikes! Is nothing immune to this sort of discourse?!
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard (PS5) - The Best BioWare Game Since Mass Effect 3
@playstation1995 you have to understand that by today's way of judging things, the game itself doesn't have to be "bad" to be considered bad. Just have elements of real world persons/places/things that people don't like and it's "bad". My faith never wavered as far as Dragon Age goes. Even after the disaster that was Dragon Age 2.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard (PS5) - The Best BioWare Game Since Mass Effect 3
@ShogunRok any sign of Cassandra Pentaghast? There has to be Cassandra Pentaghast! Please tell me Cassandra Pentaghast is in this game!
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard (PS5) - The Best BioWare Game Since Mass Effect 3
The long awaited follow up to what is one of my top 5 favorite games of all time! I t hink I will be putting down ESO in favor of this! Simply. Cannot. Wait!!!
Re: Mini Review: Starship Troopers: Extermination (PS5) - Not Just a Helldivers Clone
Had me at “Starship Troopers”. Lost me as FPS.
Re: Microsoft CEO Says More Xbox Games Will Come to PS5, Hours After Rumours Said Porting Project Was Paused
Fable is all I’m interested in. Also, kinda crazy for them to spend so much for ActiBlizz only to have all the games be on PlayStation anyway. But I guess now they get paid on all the sales so…
Re: Reminder: You Must Accept PS Stars Terms of Service to Keep Earning Points
@romanista exactly! Absolutely worthless nonsense!
Re: Reminder: You Must Accept PS Stars Terms of Service to Keep Earning Points
@BeerMonster it won’t. Not any longer. Which sucks because that and PS Plus are the 2 that I subscribe to. No subscription wil count anymore. It’s almost like they’re repaying the loyalty of being a subscriber with punishment for being a subscriber lol.
Re: Reminder: You Must Accept PS Stars Terms of Service to Keep Earning Points
@DennisReynolds I mean, if you’re buying enough game that you’re gonna gain enough points for this to be “lucrative” then you’re probably not really benefiting from it.
With a roughly 4% points/cash ratio, it’ll take spending nearly $500 to get about $20 in Stars to cash out. But you’re correct, “worthless to me”. As I absolutely don’t buy that many games in a calendar year.
Re: Reminder: You Must Accept PS Stars Terms of Service to Keep Earning Points
@DennisReynolds I'm a full-on digital gamer. Have been since early PS4. But I rarely buy games. But I do have a PS Plus and ESO+ subscription and that's who I get most of my points. Now all that is worthless as far as points go.
Re: Reminder: You Must Accept PS Stars Terms of Service to Keep Earning Points
@RobN wonder if this will work? I’m gonna try it. Will not continue PS+ and ESO+ next month, let it lapse for a day, then sign back up.
Re: Reminder: You Must Accept PS Stars Terms of Service to Keep Earning Points
@nessisonett that’s is definitely the most egregious change they’ve made! Almost insulting!
Re: Reminder: You Must Accept PS Stars Terms of Service to Keep Earning Points
This whole thing is so worthless now! What, am I gonna just do it all for collectibles that no one else can see? And you discontinue Stars for my monthly subscription purchase?! That’s the worst part! Even my credit card company gives me points on subscriptions. Good lord, Sony!
Re: Stealth Issues Still the Focus of Star Wars Outlaws PS5 Patches
@MikeOrator the stealth missions were tough but not unplayable. In fact, I've always found it funny how you can have instances where you're sneaking through a government facility, get caught, run a certain distance, and the guards just forget about it. I agree that there were parts of the game that were imperfect. But I didn't think the instant-fail stealth portions were it. Hell, the constant "Nix, over there..." was my most frustrating thing about the game and barely any reviewers even touched on that.
Re: Double Dragon Revive Is a PS5, PS4 Brawler Bursting with PS2 Energy
As much as I love Double Dragon. I can honestly say that this is not the Double Dragon I love! I hope there's a demo for this. Because if not, I will never give this game a chance lol.
Re: Stealth Issues Still the Focus of Star Wars Outlaws PS5 Patches
@BookhouseBoy They actually can. In fact, fixing bad mechanics is exactly what patches are for...
Re: Sony's Japan Studio 'Forgot What It Feels Like to Have a Hit'
I think people often fail to realize that just because they love a game, doesn't mean the game is necessarily a success. Like, there's nothing more I want in this gaming world more than Dark Cloud 3. But the game sold roughly 1.1 million worldwide. That's not considered to be a resounding success. I hate that it works this way, but gaming is a business after all.
So when a studio like Japan Studio shuts down, even after having "fan favorite" games. You have to realize that "fan favorite" doesn't mean commercial success.
Re: New World: Aeternum (PS5) - Full-Bodied Action MMO Will Devour Your Free Time
THERE ARE TOO MANY RPGs BEING RELEASED!!! I’m only one man, gotdammit!
I absolutely love this PS5 generation! I have so much I want to play that I don’t play anything lol. Been stuck on Elder Scrolls Online for 10 years now.
Re: Try Ys X: Nordics' Fast-Paced Combat in PS5, PS4 Demo, Available Now
Played the demo for a while during down time from ESO. When I turned off the demo (didn't even finish it) it'd been 5 hours of gameplay. I loved it! Likely a pick up for me!
Re: Metal Slug Tactics Not Far Away with 5th November PS5, PS4 Release Date
It looks funs. But I'm still waiting for a price drop for Contra. Loved the demo! But can't see myself dropping $39.99 on it when there are better games out there for as low as only $10 more.
Re: LEGO Pitched the Brilliant LEGO Horizon Adventures to Sony
I love Horizon. I love LEGOs. But I don't love LEGO games! I'll be skipping this one. Hopefully the kiddies eat it up though. Because I love all the success Horizon has been experiencing.
Re: Sony Wanted PS5 Exclusivity for Crimson Desert, But Dev Reportedly Declined
@AdamNovice @get2sammyb @Frmknst I think gamers as a whole have come to see the industry only from their point of view. If games aren't geared toward them in particular then those games shouldn't exist. The past 4-6 months around here have brought me to that conclusion.
Most comments sections are littered with people who don't even care for the game they're commenting on. Just there to say they don't like it and want something else.
I've seen such diversity in this generation but most people see the opposite. I always have an analogy for this happening. It's like if you have 100 things, you give someone 90 of those 100 things, then give someone else the next 5 of those 100 things, the person who got the 90 will be upset that you've now decided to support someone else. That's basically what gaming has become; people who are upset that game companies now focus on gamers who aren't themselves.
Re: Poll: One Year Later, How Would You Rate Marvel's Spider-Man 2 on PS5?
It’s very good. I loved it! But not in my top 10 games I’ve played.
Re: Some Marvel's Spider-Man 2 PS5 Fans Are Furious It's Not Getting DLC
Absolutely love the game! But I never play DLC for any games I love. I skipped Dragon Age: Inquisition DLC, both Horizon games, God of War, etc. I usually just move on to something else.
Re: Like It or Not, This Is Why PS5 Pro Doesn't Have a Disc Drive
For perspective, I have a friend who has 223 physical games in his collection. He has a wall full and it takes up so much space. Unsightly for a guy like me who’s an absolute minimalist.
Myself, I have a digital console with 191 games. All you see is my console and my controller. Sure, the whole “no internet” thing comes into play sometimes (it’s been only twice so far). But even then, most of my games are very much accessible internet or not.
I understand the qualms about all digital. But tech for the most part has been moving in this direction. At some point physical will no longer be an option.
Re: Mini Review: Diablo 4: Vessel of Hatred (PS5) - Hard to Hate This Meaty Expansion
I adore the Diablo series! That being said, the MMO-ness of IV put me off of it. Just doesn’t feel the same. I may get back into it.
Re: Opinion: The Price of Playing PS5 Games Day One Is Getting Higher and Higher
As I read this, I realize I paid full price for Outlaws and still don’t play it as much as many of my older games. I’m through paying for day 1’s unless it’s something I love a la Uncharted, TLOU, etc.
I’ve recently bought Outlaws and Wu Kong and still play Elder Scrolls Online far more than I play those 2 games. Furthermore, I was day 1 die Diablo IV and quit it after about a month and a half. Just unwise financial decisions made by a guy who manages money.
Re: Aug 2024 USA Sales: Console Sales Take a Sharp Decline, But PS5 Is Still King
@gollumb82 @NEStalgia Switch is essentially a kids toy (as NES stated). And as parents, we all know kids toys usually hold 6-8 months of interest after purchase. The fact that its geared toward kids as a toy does help its sales. Especially for those parents who buy 2 because the kids wanna play together.
With all honesty though, I don't know a single family that either still uses their Switch, or uses it as their main console. I can vouch for my family and say that the thing has been in a box for about 3 years now. My son is 17 and now plays PC and PS5 games. My daughter is 11 and has little interest in video games anymore. The novelty has worn off.
As far as Switch 2 though, I think it'll do great because a new batch of kids will want 1, or maybe 2, depending on the household. The price likely won't be a factor since there's nothing more parents like to do than post a video of their kids' faces opening up the gift they actually asked for on Christmas day.
Re: Aug 2024 USA Sales: Console Sales Take a Sharp Decline, But PS5 Is Still King
Elder Scrolls Online showing up! U Luv 2 C it!
Re: Throne and Liberty (PS5) - Beginner MMO Is Plagued with Technical Issues
@LowDefAl ESO has had great stories and gameplay since day 1! Every zone feels like it’s a sequel to the previous story but also stand on their own if you don’t play the previous story.
Re: Throne and Liberty (PS5) - Beginner MMO Is Plagued with Technical Issues
My son tried to pull me away from ESO with this game. Not gonna happen! Seems fun enough. But not fun enough.
Re: PS Stars Guide: All Campaigns and Solutions (October 2024)
Stars not unlocking and purchased games not counting. How can they make this suck so bad?!
Re: PS5 Fans Believe Halo Could Make Its PlayStation Debut
Halo isn't the major player it once was. If it comes to Playstation it'll serve as proof that the same can be said about XBOX in general.
Re: Random: Internet Trolls Tried to Downgrade Our Silent Hill 2 PS5 Review Score
Uh oh… which character did they gender bend? Or make (looks around, whispers)black…?
Re: Atlus Fans Don't Think Xbox's Marketing Is Doing Metaphor: ReFantazio Justice
At this point, one has to believe the only way anything not owned by MS would give MS any sort of exclusivity, timed or otherwise, is because they took a huge sum of cash up front. Not to say this hasn’t always been the case for all consoles. But the state XBOX is in right now, it has to be maybe thrice the price it used to be.
Re: Diablo 4 Joins Growing List of Games That'll Be PS5 Pro Enhanced
Hopefully Elder Scrolls Online gets a boost. Supposed to be getting a pro for my birthday (Thanksgiving Day).
Re: Tencent, Guillemot Family Reportedly Considering Ubisoft Buyout
@Jrs1 they're not great. But hate for the studio leaves the games to be judged more harshly than most others.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Reportedly Has a Co-Op Game Mode in Development
@OthmaneAD it’s an option… 🤷🏾♂️
Re: Microsoft Is Investigating Why Devs Are Prioritising PS5 Over Xbox
MS, don’t pay anyone to investigate this! Read this comments section and you’ll find every single correct answer!
Re: Curb Your Kid's Fortnite Consumption with Epic's New Suite of Parental Controls
@NEStalgia I was with you until Zero Dawn lol.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Hasn't Removed Yasuke, But Dev Focused on Historical Accuracy
@jrt87 I don't know what you're doing here but it seems your naming characters from a time where cry woke wasn't yet a thing, or wasn't as big a thing as it is now. Any of those characters, save for GTA's and 50 Cent, would be deemed "woke" by today's standards. 50 Cent is a rapper and GTA's characters are in a "Black setting". They're where they "belong". Most all the others are outside of acceptable black spaces.
And maybe Dee Jay and Balrog would be OK because they're not main characters per se.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Hasn't Removed Yasuke, But Dev Focused on Historical Accuracy
@taciturnbloke I didn't hear too much race-based pushback against that. Not to say it doesn't exist. But when I hear things like people were saying they felt less bad about Rue dying in the Hunger Games film because the actress was Black it kinda leaves a bad taste. Like, you see a child get killed and because she's Black you have less sympathy. It's kind of sick. But there are so many examples of this. Sorry to get off topic.
Re: PS5 Pro 'Absolutely Rocks', According to No Man's Sky Engine Programmer
To be fair. No one thinks it sucks. They just think it's too damn expensive. That being said. Can't wait to get him hands on one!
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Hasn't Removed Yasuke, But Dev Focused on Historical Accuracy
@naruball times are just what they are now. It kinda sucks. I've been called a "DEI hire" at my job as I'm the only non-white, non-female Bank Manager in my region. Never mind that I started as a Teller 10 years ago and have worked my way up. So yeah, as long as the outlier is a racial/gender/sexual(?) minority it'll always be deemed DEI.
Re: October 2024's PS Plus Essential PS5, PS4 Games Are Available to Download Now
Dead Space is promising. No interest in the other 2. But will "add to collection" anyway.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Hasn't Removed Yasuke, But Dev Focused on Historical Accuracy
@jrt87 kind of off topic here. But they added Black elves to LOTR and people lost their 💩. You think just because something is fantasy gamers will be OK with these changes? It’s pure speculation here, but if Nioh featured Yasuke, the reaction would be very similar to his inclusion in Assassin's Creed.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Hasn't Removed Yasuke, But Dev Focused on Historical Accuracy
@naruball this is a great post! It’s exactly what I’ve said to some people. Like, I’ve never claimed Yasuke was a Samurai. But there are so many who will link to stories stating that he wasn’t. But I can link to stories stating that he was. I really don’t know. But folks will always follow links that confirm their biases.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Hasn't Removed Yasuke, But Dev Focused on Historical Accuracy
@GreatAuk never said that. Don’t know how you even drew that conclusion.
Re: PlayStation Network Outage Has Now Been Resolved
Couldn’t play ESO so I played Star Wars Outlaws. No internet, so I played the game that didn’t require it. Also, digital only console. 🤷🏾♂️
Re: Insider Report Adds Context to Assassin's Creed Shadows' Big Delay
@Toot1st no one cared?! You really believe this?! Dude, there was pushback similar to this! Just not as major because crying woke wasn’t a way of life in 2017 like it is today. Google “Assassin’s Creed Origins racism” and see how much “no one cared”.