This game was never well optimized,,so its not about hardware,,and it never looked particularly great on previous versions. Not going to pay a grand more to get this game to finally run smooth, plus the fidelity mode on ps5 pro still looks much clearer, pretty sad they cant even on that, make it run and look great.
It's a shame really that the base gameplay is poor, i really like the look, feel, design idea of it in previews.
But as was to be expected, stealth is poor and broken even it seems, action is basic, and mission design is very limited, instant stealth fail where you can't even knock a guard out, or if allowed, the game is bugged and fails because the ai saw you while its being knocked down, etc.
Shame, but you can see in avatar too, the devs last game, the beginning is a bad sign, with 30 mins almost if basic corridor stealth with almost no guards.
I don't get it, they have a lot of resources, ubisoft, they should have time too, on ps5 it's buggy it seems really.
As others said, 20 bucks in a year or 2.
Wanted this to be great, even the open world i read is pretty underwhelming with it's bland racing, the shooting on the bike etc.
Check out big dan gaming vid, he shows the ai, and trial and error stealth etc.
Looks like could be fun, too much colorful cartoony particles for my taste, you dont even see the kick of ledge covered by a full screen of all colors of sparkles, and they dont look particularly artistic or advanced. We'll see i guess.
@Colour yh same, i love the 1st game, but it gets tiring with so slow fps, even now on ps5, might be even worse. Im trying to wait and hope they patch it, the 2nd game better run smooth, it looks the same almost. But even then, im not paying much for a 2nd game if i can't play the 1st with an update to make it run smoothly.
So its like andromeda, a dumbed down, casual big market product. Companions will be interesting by their so cool self contributions like quips saying ' good shot' etc..
Sure more engaging, in a mcdo generic product ment for global easy market way..
Just watch some more continuous gameplay of that demo, instead of small cuts from the vid here, and, it looks abysmal to me sadly.
Very generic, average, bad animations in gameplay( stormtroopers moving to you in erratic ways, making no sense), bad ai, corny generic quips, big red x on enemies, easy paused mark and shoot, bland empty environments and side activities, etc.
Idk, hope they improve it for a good year after launch, i really wish this be good.
From this vid, it looks like basic generic gameplay design, in all facets sadly, including level design. With usual load hiding in sliding thru cracks, sliding down a,1 way slope path etc.
Plus graphic quality and detail is pretty basic too for a newgen only game. There's some charm, humor that is likeable. We'll see i guess, maybe this is the most basic gameplay part of the whole game..
Im in montreal, never even heard there was a presentation here soon.
Admittedly, i had uninstalled gts a couple years ago, and been into more hardcore sims with a wheel etc.
But, i re-installed gts just few days ago and im amazed at how nice a game it is really, even if a little shallow in the sp side.
Best replay sounds in a game i ever tried.
Ai races pretty well really, looks great on ps5, smooth controls with the gyroscope on ds5, can do long races in custom race, pitstops, etc.
Gonna look into gt7 now, seems it has a little improved physics, sounds, added 3 old favorite tracks.
Just the ai seeems really poor apart from sophie update, which for now is still limited i think in sp modes?
Im only into sp play so..
It sure take a lot of storage gts though, 100g ouch. At least i can install and run it from my external hdd, where as gt7 will use up all that on the precious expensive ssd.
Aren't they supposed to expand Sophie to more sp options?
@Balie3000 yes,,like you and others said, it really runs poorly,,and on ps5 same thing. Just please update the ps4 version to run smoothly on backward comp ps5.. Im still waiting to go thru it more than the beginning because of this. Its really not pleasant as it is.
A shame if it's disappointing, i found the space part shown in videos pretty underwhelming, basic arcade shooter, woth the usual roll evade, and the loading in clouds to a scripted landing on planet.
@Northern_munkey i see, thanks, appreciate the reply.
But many say wrc10 is less floaty, slidey on tarmac than generations, weird you didn't like 10 much.
Ill see i guess, surely ill get both at some point.
Wrc generations was 16 cad last sale, i waited for now, still have 10 to go thru.
Yeah, ea wrc went low fast, because of poor launch game condition, and disappointing aspects.
I use a wheel as well, tks.
I wouldn't mind some old xbx titles, splinter cell, fight night round 4, hawx, the old star trek space combat game with each generation captain actors in it, condemned 2, too human etc.
@Northern_munkey
If ever you had also wrc10, how do you like generations in comparison?
I know of the content and features, just curious on someones take on it.
I like 10 quite enough, haven't gotten gen yet or Ea wrc.
Wish they'd optimize the 1st game 1st,,runs poorly on ps4. At least give an update to it so it runs better on ps5 in bc mode. I like the game but it's not pleasant really as it runs still now.
Shame, wish it had a more hardcore physics and control scheme. Seems like just a consumer living fantasy type game, nothing much endearing for me gameplay wise. A video of 1st impression on youtube also showed it to feel very rigid, like steering with a keyboard type of feel.
Surroundings also, i mean kylotonn isn't best at optimization, having difficulty with 1 car on one road type of games, imagine an open world game.. Wont be a ton of traffic for sure.
Obviously a trailer, not representative surely of gameplay, you cant say it looks so good from that then..
And it's kylotonn, they are not great at optimization, no way it will be this clean, smooth on ps5.
Even in their rally games with one road and one car they cant optimize well enough, so imagine an open world with lots of cars, etc..
The story presentation is cringy as hell too.
Hope the feel is great though.
Wishlist now, well even of i wanted, sony limits it to 100.. Annoying because i have to look thru all the sale to see if any other game i want to check is on sale.
Sega also split from relic a couple months ago, and relic just announced they're dropping company of heroes 3 console support.
Shame.., i don't know if i should feel bad at sega or relic, maybe if not for sega coh3 wouldnt even be on console. Anyhow, too bad, was a lot of good updates, but still missing some from pc..
@PsBoxSwitchOwner
The group that owns psq got bought by ign, was on yesterday's news, and now a mediocre game exclusive on xbx gets a glowing review here suddenly.
Although to be fair, that group already included xbx site so idk.
But there's an awful lot of 5/10 for this..
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Re: God of War Ragnarok PC Lets You Reduce Puzzle Hints, Option Also Coming to PS5, PS4 Soon
Good i haven't started it yet.
Took long enough, pc side had to make them do it, shame.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth's Huge PS5 Pro Enhancements Are a 'Vast Improvement'
This game was never well optimized,,so its not about hardware,,and it never looked particularly great on previous versions.
Not going to pay a grand more to get this game to finally run smooth, plus the fidelity mode on ps5 pro still looks much clearer, pretty sad they cant even on that, make it run and look great.
Re: Over 200 Noteworthy PS5, PS4 Games Discounted on PS Store
Dragon's dogma has a free 2h trial, until oct 9 i think.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth 'Hugely Improved' on PS5 Pro, a 'Night and Day' Difference
Yh but this game is abysmal in optimization on older versions so..
Re: Sony Execs Seem to Think the Company Doesn't Have Enough Original IP
Well I agree it be good to add new ip based games. But also some of their ips are abandoned, like the order 1886, days gone, some old game series too.
Re: Test Drive Unlimited Developer Joins Spiders in Strike Against Nacon
Not surprising, look how each kt wrc game has launched with limited optimization, bug fixes, pressure to launch and move on to next project.
Re: Workers at Greedfall, Steelrising Dev Spiders Are Striking, Calling Out Nacon in Public Letter
Chinese publisher no? Like tencent, what a surprise..
Re: Round Up: Star Wars Outlaws PS5 Reviews Are Hit and Miss
It's a shame really that the base gameplay is poor, i really like the look, feel, design idea of it in previews.
But as was to be expected, stealth is poor and broken even it seems, action is basic, and mission design is very limited, instant stealth fail where you can't even knock a guard out, or if allowed, the game is bugged and fails because the ai saw you while its being knocked down, etc.
Shame, but you can see in avatar too, the devs last game, the beginning is a bad sign, with 30 mins almost if basic corridor stealth with almost no guards.
I don't get it, they have a lot of resources, ubisoft, they should have time too, on ps5 it's buggy it seems really.
As others said, 20 bucks in a year or 2.
Wanted this to be great, even the open world i read is pretty underwhelming with it's bland racing, the shooting on the bike etc.
Check out big dan gaming vid, he shows the ai, and trial and error stealth etc.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Drops Loads of PS5 Gameplay, Action Combat Details
Looks like could be fun, too much colorful cartoony particles for my taste, you dont even see the kick of ledge covered by a full screen of all colors of sparkles, and they dont look particularly artistic or advanced.
We'll see i guess.
Re: Preview: Crimson Desert Is Real, Complex, and Potentially Great
Im liking the impression i get from these preview gameplay videos.
Re: Indiana Jones PS5 Is a Huge Game with Many Secrets to Uncover
Gets more interesting for sure with more details coming out.
Re: Black Myth: Wukong Is Eating Your Inputs on PS5, and It's a Problem with Performance Mode
So they cheating really, i mean it's good to have smoother visuals, but if its fake and feels different that isn't so cool.
Re: Phantom Blade Zero Dazzles with Chaotic Combat in PS5 Gameplay Video
Looks pretty good, animations seem to be getting better lately in 3rd person melee games coming up, about time too.
Im liking crimson desert a lot too, with a pulled back camera often, wish it did even more to have a good overall view around, and more cinematic.
Re: PS5 RPG Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 Looks Bloody Brilliant in Full 25 Minutes of Gameplay
@Colour yh same, i love the 1st game, but it gets tiring with so slow fps, even now on ps5, might be even worse.
Im trying to wait and hope they patch it, the 2nd game better run smooth, it looks the same almost.
But even then, im not paying much for a 2nd game if i can't play the 1st with an update to make it run smoothly.
Re: PS5 Gets a Staggering, Officially Licensed 8TB SSD
That's the one major issue with this gen, expensive storage, really not reasonable.
Re: PS5 Open World Crimson Desert Gets 7 Minutes of Raw Gameplay, and It Looks Ridiculous
I like the camera pulling back further,giving you a better view around your character,,and more cinematic too.
Re: Rumour: Xbox to Announce a 'Big' Game Coming to PS5 at Gamescom
Id be curious to try out starfield, but I'd prefer if they kept working on it for another year at least, and improve and add to it 1st.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Release Date Dropping Tomorrow, BioWare Promises Loads of Gameplay Details
Lol, should have notified us that you will post this announcement update, I'm caught off guard.
Anyhow, hope it will show interesting depth in gameplay still..
Re: PS Store's August Savings Sale Drops Some Big Discounts on PS5, PS4 Games
Sale not updated yet in the app for north america, Canada region.
Only see the discounts on my wishlist, and there's nothing much for now.
Re: Alan Wake 2 Still Hasn't Made Remedy Any Royalties, But Work Is Underway on Max Payne's PS5 Remakes
Just waiting for a lower priced sale, it's in my must try.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Won't Let You Control Companion Characters
So its like andromeda, a dumbed down, casual big market product. Companions will be interesting by their so cool self contributions like quips saying ' good shot' etc..
Sure more engaging, in a mcdo generic product ment for global easy market way..
Re: Best Simulation Games on PS5
Coaster doesnt have irritating voice acting, and clumsy controls to me. Charming game.
Gt7 1st, sure..
Re: Preview: Star Wars Outlaws Thrives in Its Rewarding Open World
Just watch some more continuous gameplay of that demo, instead of small cuts from the vid here, and, it looks abysmal to me sadly.
Very generic, average, bad animations in gameplay( stormtroopers moving to you in erratic ways, making no sense), bad ai, corny generic quips, big red x on enemies, easy paused mark and shoot, bland empty environments and side activities, etc.
Idk, hope they improve it for a good year after launch, i really wish this be good.
Re: Preview: Star Wars Outlaws Thrives in Its Rewarding Open World
Glad for the promising game as a whole,,but still, if the action, and stealth are lukewarm, it will satisfy only casuals and fans of the ip it seems.
Instafail isn't great, why not let me try get out of it instead, have more flexible design..
Seems massive isnt up it for action games, avatar seems middling too.
Re: Sony's Going to Make Damn Sure You Pay Attention to Astro Bot on PS5
Have to admit, the girl on the right especially, is perfect for me, adorable, feminine. Astro bot yh..
Re: Stellar Blade's New Summer Song Is a Vibe on PS5
Tried the beginning of the demo, was pretty lame to be honest, very guided, and corny.
Anyhow, might try until the end of demo later on.
Re: 'Unpolished' Star Wars Outlaws Gameplay Gets Blasted, But Ubisoft Insists on August Release Date
The visuals and polish are the least of the problems though, sure hope the full game is more interesting and inspired gameplay wise.
Re: Check Out a Full 10 Minute Star Wars Outlaws Quest on PS5
From this vid, it looks like basic generic gameplay design, in all facets sadly, including level design.
With usual load hiding in sliding thru cracks, sliding down a,1 way slope path etc.
Plus graphic quality and detail is pretty basic too for a newgen only game.
There's some charm, humor that is likeable.
We'll see i guess, maybe this is the most basic gameplay part of the whole game..
Hope it surprises..
Re: Neverness to Everness Makes GTA an Anime Open World on PS5
Car turns like with 0 physics, feel.
Re: PSN Online Services Restored Across the Board
Yesterday late evening around 2:45am i got unknowned error messages when trying to buy a game on pstore, directly on ps5.
I tried a few times and was able to buy one game, but it was too late to keep try for another i was thinking to get, mafia 1 remastered on sale.
So i missed the sale, im guessing there's no way to ask Sony to let me get it now at the sale price..
Re: Next Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Update Could Be a Big One
Im in montreal, never even heard there was a presentation here soon.
Admittedly, i had uninstalled gts a couple years ago, and been into more hardcore sims with a wheel etc.
But, i re-installed gts just few days ago and im amazed at how nice a game it is really, even if a little shallow in the sp side.
Best replay sounds in a game i ever tried.
Ai races pretty well really, looks great on ps5, smooth controls with the gyroscope on ds5, can do long races in custom race, pitstops, etc.
Gonna look into gt7 now, seems it has a little improved physics, sounds, added 3 old favorite tracks.
Just the ai seeems really poor apart from sophie update, which for now is still limited i think in sp modes?
Im only into sp play so..
It sure take a lot of storage gts though, 100g ouch. At least i can install and run it from my external hdd, where as gt7 will use up all that on the precious expensive ssd.
Aren't they supposed to expand Sophie to more sp options?
Re: FromSoftware Boss Twists the Bloodborne Knife, Says It's 'A Special Game for Me'
@Balie3000 yes,,like you and others said, it really runs poorly,,and on ps5 same thing.
Just please update the ps4 version to run smoothly on backward comp ps5..
Im still waiting to go thru it more than the beginning because of this.
Its really not pleasant as it is.
Re: Hidetaka Miyazaki 'Knows for a Fact' FromSoftware Devs Want a Bloodborne PC Port
Maybe they could start with an update on the ps4 version to make it run smooth on ps5 back compatibility.
Re: Preview: Star Wars Outlaws on PS5 Has a World of Possibilities, But Is Let Down by a Rough Demo
A shame if it's disappointing, i found the space part shown in videos pretty underwhelming, basic arcade shooter, woth the usual roll evade, and the loading in clouds to a scripted landing on planet.
Re: Tons More Massive PS5, PS4 Games with Huge Discounts
Subscription walled sale, ok, when's the next sale...
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Reveal Has Utterly Torn Fan Opinion as Trailer Gets Slaughtered
What else is new, EA.., comes out with a mass market appeal casual thing made by corporate fools.
Re: PS Store Adds Another 1,500 Big PS5, PS4 Deals for Summer Game Fest
@Northern_munkey i see, thanks, appreciate the reply.
But many say wrc10 is less floaty, slidey on tarmac than generations, weird you didn't like 10 much.
Ill see i guess, surely ill get both at some point.
Wrc generations was 16 cad last sale, i waited for now, still have 10 to go thru.
Yeah, ea wrc went low fast, because of poor launch game condition, and disappointing aspects.
I use a wheel as well, tks.
Re: Halo 1 Remaster Being Considered for PS5, New Report Claims
I wouldn't mind some old xbx titles, splinter cell, fight night round 4, hawx, the old star trek space combat game with each generation captain actors in it, condemned 2, too human etc.
Re: PS Store Adds Another 1,500 Big PS5, PS4 Deals for Summer Game Fest
@Northern_munkey
If ever you had also wrc10, how do you like generations in comparison?
I know of the content and features, just curious on someones take on it.
I like 10 quite enough, haven't gotten gen yet or Ea wrc.
Re: Xbox Series S Specs Limit the Scope of Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2
Wish they'd optimize the 1st game 1st,,runs poorly on ps4.
At least give an update to it so it runs better on ps5 in bc mode.
I like the game but it's not pleasant really as it runs still now.
Re: Preview: Gran Turismo Meets NFS in Test Drive Unlimited: Solar Crown
Shame, wish it had a more hardcore physics and control scheme.
Seems like just a consumer living fantasy type game, nothing much endearing for me gameplay wise.
A video of 1st impression on youtube also showed it to feel very rigid, like steering with a keyboard type of feel.
Surroundings also, i mean kylotonn isn't best at optimization, having difficulty with 1 car on one road type of games, imagine an open world game..
Wont be a ton of traffic for sure.
Re: New PS5 Games Release Dates in 2024
There's also woden gp2 on 17th of july i think, sequel to a great little racing game.
Re: Open World Racer Test Drive Unlimited: Solar Crown Swerves onto PS5 in September
Obviously a trailer, not representative surely of gameplay, you cant say it looks so good from that then..
And it's kylotonn, they are not great at optimization, no way it will be this clean, smooth on ps5.
Even in their rally games with one road and one car they cant optimize well enough, so imagine an open world with lots of cars, etc..
The story presentation is cringy as hell too.
Hope the feel is great though.
Re: Conscript Musters Retro WW1 Survival Horror for PS5, PS4
Wishlist now, well even of i wanted, sony limits it to 100..
Annoying because i have to look thru all the sale to see if any other game i want to check is on sale.
Re: SEGA 'Flat Out Rejected' Initial Pitches for Yakuza/Like a Dragon
Sega also split from relic a couple months ago, and relic just announced they're dropping company of heroes 3 console support.
Shame.., i don't know if i should feel bad at sega or relic, maybe if not for sega coh3 wouldnt even be on console.
Anyhow, too bad, was a lot of good updates, but still missing some from pc..
Re: Mad Max Dev Fires Back Following Furioso Director George Miller's Kojima Comments
Great all around solid game, well polished too on ps4.
Re: Tyranid Genestealers Detected in Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader Expansion Void Shadows
On my wishlist, too rpg in line for me, just waiting for updates to be done.
Re: Soapbox: Once a PS4 Console Exclusive, PS5 Players Are Missing a Visual Stunner in Hellblade 2
@PsBoxSwitchOwner
The group that owns psq got bought by ign, was on yesterday's news, and now a mediocre game exclusive on xbx gets a glowing review here suddenly.
Although to be fair, that group already included xbx site so idk.
But there's an awful lot of 5/10 for this..
Re: Iconic PS1 Sci-Fi Flight Sim G-Police Coming to PS5, PS4 with PS Plus Premium
@get2sammyb oh, i don't remember that even, maybe that will also be brought back then.
Re: New PS5, PS4 Games This Week (20th May to 26th May)
System shock, nice.