@GamingFan4Lyf Video game character design 101: Make them cool or make them sexy.
It really, really is that simple. Let us all be very clear about one thing here. If the cast of Stellar Blade was on the front cover of this game then Concorde would right now be flying off the shelves.
It is not an "Internet thing". It is a "human nature thing". We love kicking ass as cool people and we love kicking ass whilst staring at hot people. And the original Concorde characters were universally none of these things which is in part why it failed.
The protagonists of FF8 suffer from the same problem as the protagonists of FF15: there is no diversity. And I do not mean that in the way that a lot of people use that word today.
In my opinion, FF is at its best when you have a group of assorted yet interesting weirdos banding together to go on an adventure. Where is my blue cat man? Where is the dude with a chocobo in his hair? Where is my Vivi like black mage?
Apart from Laguna, these characters are boring and just not fun to play as. Squall gets better but for half of the game his dialogue is basically "..."
And with the exception of Squall and Seifer, even their clothes are boring. They are just wearing normal 90s' street clothes. You do not see too many FF8 cosplays besides those two guys for a reason.
I'm just glad that there will be a classic pop station in GTA6. Vice City and GTA5's Non Stop Pop FM have been on repeat for a decade at this point. Absolute bangers.
Most of these current games have not stood the test of time however. Very few would choose "a flying red square fighting another flying red square" over Elden Ring. And yet that is basically what a lot of these games are demanding of your time.
I find it hard to believe that too many people will pay this amount of money for such ancient games.
6, 7 and 8 all from the same family. I'm not getting at anyone involved, i'm just saying that it does go to show just how arbitrary review scores actually are.
@Frmknst Concord will only come back if there is a clear demand for it otherwise Sony will be doing nothing more than throwing bad money after bad money.
There is a lot more work to do here than just making it free.
30 years of active life at the top of the tree - what an incredible achievement that is. Brands like Atari and SEGA only graced those hallowed halls for a relatively short time and we all know the direction that Microsoft is going with the XBox.
@Flaming_Kaiser Yeah, fine. But they did deliberately make this character uglier than she needs to be and the proof of that is that the woman they based her does NOT look like this.
@RoomWithaMoose Did you notice that your examples of "iconic ugly people" are male followed by "not a human female"?
You can deny this as much as you like, but I'll sit here and wait patiently for you to tell me of an iconic female character in gaming who isn't hot.
They say that sex sells. What they actually mean is that female sex sells. I'm not saying that this is a good or a bad thing btw, but it is the truth. It is not men who make Twitch millions of dollars by just sitting in a bathtub.
He's right y'know. There is no such thing as a dated concept - it is all in the execution. The random battle idea for example sounds really cool. A Final Fantasy 6 style game absolutely can co-exist in the same world as Final Fantasy 16.
I'm sorry to once again bring up Concord. But I think that a lot of people today are hungry for the simpler times once more. Back when games were just fun and not designed to be 200 million dollar multimedia juggernauts. I know I am.
@Max_the_German Any kind of easy boosting that requires you to intentionally frag yourself is bad game design because it will most likely lose your team the match.
@DennisReynolds All technology is abused by the rich against the poor. ALL OF IT. The solution however isn't to embrace the way of the luddite and try to stand in the way of technological progress.
@invictus4000 My thoughts exactly I'm afraid. This might be a nice thing to buy your dad but realistically how many people nowadays are legit going to want to play some Commodore or Amstrad? "Retro" for most does not go too far below the Fourth Generation + the NES from my experience.
@nomither6 This criticism makes me chuckle. It is obvious from the amount of comments that people are interested in following this dumpster fire of a game. Why wouldn't PushSquare keep on making articles about it? Supply and demand.
@Frmknst I disagree. The Saints Row Reboot for example. Most people could have told you that ''waffle maker and student loan jokes'' is not the correct basis for a Saints Row game. That is not 80% luck. Same here. Most people outside of whatever bubble the Concord devs were sitting in could have told them that these character designs were boring and the game average.
Only 1238 people currently have the first trophy which is acquired by killing ONE person. This means that at absolute best, there are only 1238 people playing this game on PlayStation.
The days of dedicated gaming machines will soon die for everyone except Nintendo. That is my opinion and I am sticking to it. The world in general is moving towards ''Swiss-Army knife'' devices that can do anything and everything. The whole world in one handy, easy to use package.
Both Microsoft and Sony have already worked this out BTW which is why there is such a drive towards cross-platform in recent times. The console wars now exist solely in the heads of fanboys.
This is by far one of the biggest gaming failures of all time. I've heard that Sony is on track to lose between 1 and 2 hundred million pounds. I doubt that the studio will make the end of the year either.
PushSquare needs to do a full post mortem on this game because this whole situation is fascinating. Something historic has happened here and I am not completely sure as to how and why.
This was always my personal favourite game of the series. I realise that I am in the minority here but in my opinion it took everything good about T2 and made it better. It is the Vice City to T2's GTA3.
I completely disagree that this game has lost charm and creativity over the previous game. Every quotable line comes from this game. Cortez has transformed from a cut price Riddick into a character that is actually memorable. And who can forget Jo-Beth Casey? She was such a breakout star at the time that she was on the cover for Timesplitters 4. Corporate is not a term that applies here, sorry.
@Ashina Herm? The swap disc joke was a reference to MGS1. That whole act was one long and glorious nod, wink and respectful goodbye to MGS1. You do not touch Act 4, especially as if you are going to touch anything, it is act 3.
Screw act 3. Following that one guy with his ear splitting whistle and lemming-like suicidal tendencies is easily the worst part of the game by a mile. It does not help that this is also when you learn of the retcon involving the Snake Eater cast which still pisses me off to this day.
Why does anyone buy a game full price on PSN when there are so many monthly sales? Seriously, you are being absolutely ripped off if you buy anything at regular price.
OK. I'm going to be the one to say it: That game would have been racist as F because society in general did not give an F back then.
Remember Kenji in GTA3? Go back and listen to him and imagine a whole game with this guy. Different time, my friends. What was allowed then is absolute cringe today. Hogs of War 1999 for example had some Japanese lines in it that I am 99% certain will not make the often rumoured remaster. Imagine all of the following lines in an accent like Jerry Lewis:
''Hallo! Do yo, have the, great time?'' ''Boom boom bang, and you're actual more fun!'' ''Oh, howey there!''
And so on, and so forth. We are best off without the comedy Japanese GTA game.
I just... I just do not see the point. Worms Arnageddon is already on PSN. From what I hear the PC version had a few more weapons, but I also hear that the PS1 version had several unique levels so that kind of balances itself out.
I'm not getting out of bed for anything less than a brand new campaign mode tbh.
@Lup So you've never been influenced by a review no? Never not bought something on Amazon because it has two stars or not gone to a restaurant or not gone to see a certain film? Nope. Sorry. We are ALL influenced by that little number on the page like it or not.
1) It's a Ubisoft game. With everything negative that entails. 2) I haven't detected much FOMO with this game. And I think that is due in part to the fact that the Star Wars brand has never been more in tatters than it is now.
@ShogunRok Let's be honest here: this game has already been forgotten. And i'm not even trying to insult it by saying that, i'm stating the truth. To bounce back from player numbers this low would be miraculous.
Seriously though, can you imagine just how many microtransactions would be in these games today? All of these hundreds of characters, multiple game modes, challenges etc? Heck, if the rumours are to be believed, Timesplitters 4 was going to be some kind of F2P nonsense.
It hasn't aged well in many ways (the first game especially) I won't deny it. But it has charm, it has a great soundtrack, and is just fun in a way that few FPS today are. 8/10 for me.
Graphics are meaningless to the average consumer (i.e. not someone who comments on websites like these) and that has been proven over and over again by the likes of Minecraft and Fortnite tearing up everything that anyone else has produced for the last ten years. Even GTA5 is still running PS3 graphics with slight tweaks. And that is exactly what we are going to be talking about here with the Pro isn't it? Slight tweaks.
Gone are the days of the 2000s when you had actual leaps in absolutely everything console to console. It is all now - slight - tweaks.
Slightly clearer HD. Slightly faster. Slightly more memory. Sorry, but my wallet is only going to open for the PS6 at this point. And that will probably be for GTA 6 given how we all know that it'll be on it.
It does amuse me though that this game is clearly based around the original trilogy and not the terrible sequel. Even they know that no one wants to play that.
Indiana Jones 5, The Matrix 4 and Star Wars The Last Jedi: My top picks for ''the sequels that tried their absolute best to ruin everything beautiful about the original film''.
@RoomWithaMoose If an exec at McDonalds came out and called me a fat pig for eating Big Mac's and that exec was not punished in some way for saying it then I wouldn't go to McDonalds anymore. Simple as that. This is exactly the same scenario as a dev insulting me and expecting me to still play their game.
Sorry but I'm going to agree to disagree with you here.
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Re: Freelance Artist Attempts to Redesign PS5, PC Flop Concord's Cast
@GamingFan4Lyf Video game character design 101: Make them cool or make them sexy.
It really, really is that simple. Let us all be very clear about one thing here. If the cast of Stellar Blade was on the front cover of this game then Concorde would right now be flying off the shelves.
It is not an "Internet thing". It is a "human nature thing". We love kicking ass as cool people and we love kicking ass whilst staring at hot people. And the original Concorde characters were universally none of these things which is in part why it failed.
Re: 25 Years Ago, Square Released the Best Final Fantasy Game
The protagonists of FF8 suffer from the same problem as the protagonists of FF15: there is no diversity. And I do not mean that in the way that a lot of people use that word today.
In my opinion, FF is at its best when you have a group of assorted yet interesting weirdos banding together to go on an adventure. Where is my blue cat man? Where is the dude with a chocobo in his hair? Where is my Vivi like black mage?
Apart from Laguna, these characters are boring and just not fun to play as. Squall gets better but for half of the game his dialogue is basically "..."
And with the exception of Squall and Seifer, even their clothes are boring. They are just wearing normal 90s' street clothes. You do not see too many FF8 cosplays besides those two guys for a reason.
Re: Harry Potter: Quidditch Champions (PS5) - Magical PS Plus Sporting Sim Is a Winner
@Maubari Really? Yep, no thanks. Nothing stops me from playing a game quicker than ''mandatory sign in.''
Re: 80s Synthpop Stars Heaven 17 Resist the Temptation of PS5's GTA 6
I'm just glad that there will be a classic pop station in GTA6. Vice City and GTA5's Non Stop Pop FM have been on repeat for a decade at this point. Absolute bangers.
Re: Antstream Arcade (PS5) - Instantly Add 1,300 Retro Releases to Your Console Collection
Most of these current games have not stood the test of time however. Very few would choose "a flying red square fighting another flying red square" over Elden Ring. And yet that is basically what a lot of these games are demanding of your time.
I find it hard to believe that too many people will pay this amount of money for such ancient games.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Star Wars Outlaws?
@GeeForce Daddy IGN gave it 7/10 lol.
6, 7 and 8 all from the same family. I'm not getting at anyone involved, i'm just saying that it does go to show just how arbitrary review scores actually are.
Re: Mini Review: TimeSplitters (PS2) - A Fantastic Foundation with Flaws
@riceNpea FP also scored less than Concord aka Sony's biggest ever first party failure.
To say "I do not agree with these Timesplitters reviews" would be lowballing it at this point.
Re: Concord Will Remain in Prime Video's Secret Level Anthology Series
@Frmknst Concord will only come back if there is a clear demand for it otherwise Sony will be doing nothing more than throwing bad money after bad money.
There is a lot more work to do here than just making it free.
Re: Concord Will Remain in Prime Video's Secret Level Anthology Series
It is obvious that Amazon would not have chosen to feature this game, so there must be some serious wasted Sony cash here.
Re: PS5 Pro Seemingly Teased in New 30th Anniversary Artwork
30 years of active life at the top of the tree - what an incredible achievement that is. Brands like Atari and SEGA only graced those hallowed halls for a relatively short time and we all know the direction that Microsoft is going with the XBox.
Bet Nintendo wishes that they bought it now lol.
Re: Star Wars Outlaws Director a 'Little Disappointed' with Critical Reception
@Flaming_Kaiser Yeah, fine. But they did deliberately make this character uglier than she needs to be and the proof of that is that the woman they based her does NOT look like this.
Re: Star Wars Outlaws Director a 'Little Disappointed' with Critical Reception
@RoomWithaMoose So in other words, you could not actually think of an example to prove me wrong. They're all hot dude - every last one.
Re: Star Wars Outlaws Director a 'Little Disappointed' with Critical Reception
@RoomWithaMoose Did you notice that your examples of "iconic ugly people" are male followed by "not a human female"?
You can deny this as much as you like, but I'll sit here and wait patiently for you to tell me of an iconic female character in gaming who isn't hot.
They say that sex sells. What they actually mean is that female sex sells. I'm not saying that this is a good or a bad thing btw, but it is the truth. It is not men who make Twitch millions of dollars by just sitting in a bathtub.
Re: Interview: Father of Final Fantasy Hironobu Sakaguchi on Fantasian Neo Dimension, and His Return to PlayStation
He's right y'know. There is no such thing as a dated concept - it is all in the execution. The random battle idea for example sounds really cool. A Final Fantasy 6 style game absolutely can co-exist in the same world as Final Fantasy 16.
I'm sorry to once again bring up Concord. But I think that a lot of people today are hungry for the simpler times once more. Back when games were just fun and not designed to be 200 million dollar multimedia juggernauts. I know I am.
Re: Random: Gearbox Founder, CEO Compares Company to The Beatles, Gets Roasted
The Beatles have 6 diamond certified albums. For reference, Taylor Swift only has 2.
Randy Pitchford essentially just compared himself to the Micheal Phelps of music. That is some ego you've got there dude.
Re: Players Take the Easy Way Out in Pursuit of Concord's Coveted Platinum Trophy
@Max_the_German Any kind of easy boosting that requires you to intentionally frag yourself is bad game design because it will most likely lose your team the match.
This is not a good game lol.
Re: PS5, PC Shooter Concord Dead on Arrival, Is Being Taken Offline This Week as Dev 'Explores Options'
@Can-You-Believe-Sith It's kind of funny really. The only people who are going to be quids in from all of this are the Youtube reviewers.
Re: PS5, PC Shooter Concord Dead on Arrival, Is Being Taken Offline This Week as Dev 'Explores Options'
Only 1285 got the first trophy.
97% of players have earned it.
It is awarded for your first kill.
Meaning that at best, only about 1300 people played this game.
Lol!! What a disaster.
Re: Jennifer Hale Says AI Is Coming for All of Us
@DennisReynolds All technology is abused by the rich against the poor. ALL OF IT. The solution however isn't to embrace the way of the luddite and try to stand in the way of technological progress.
Re: Jennifer Hale Says AI Is Coming for All of Us
@Frmknst AI is a tool that will change the world. All of those examples he/she gave are of tools that changed the world. And we are still here.
You just do not want to see the similarities between AI and the last piece of bogeyman tech that came along.
Re: Antstream Lets You Stream 1000s of Retro Games, Coming to PS5, PS4 This Week
@invictus4000 My thoughts exactly I'm afraid. This might be a nice thing to buy your dad but realistically how many people nowadays are legit going to want to play some Commodore or Amstrad?
"Retro" for most does not go too far below the Fourth Generation + the NES from my experience.
Re: Concord Devs Maintain Radio Silence, Which Isn't Helping Matters
@nomither6 This criticism makes me chuckle. It is obvious from the amount of comments that people are interested in following this dumpster fire of a game. Why wouldn't PushSquare keep on making articles about it? Supply and demand.
Re: Concord Devs Maintain Radio Silence, Which Isn't Helping Matters
@Frmknst I disagree. The Saints Row Reboot for example. Most people could have told you that ''waffle maker and student loan jokes'' is not the correct basis for a Saints Row game. That is not 80% luck.
Same here. Most people outside of whatever bubble the Concord devs were sitting in could have told them that these character designs were boring and the game average.
Re: How Long Does It Take to Find a Match in Concord on PS5, PC?
@AdamNovice And my face is still a face. Doesn't mean that it'll sell magazines.
Re: How Long Does It Take to Find a Match in Concord on PS5, PC?
Only 1238 people currently have the first trophy which is acquired by killing ONE person. This means that at absolute best, there are only 1238 people playing this game on PlayStation.
Re: How Long Does It Take to Find a Match in Concord on PS5, PC?
@AdamNovice Against the same 15 people. Hoo wee! I am salivating at the thought already.
Re: Sony's Astro Bot Marketing Onslaught Starting in Busy Shopping Mall
Let's hope the game does well. They've got to make all that Concord money back.
Re: Failing Manufacturers Are Pushing the Narrative That Consoles Are Dying, Says Ex-Xbox Exec
The days of dedicated gaming machines will soon die for everyone except Nintendo. That is my opinion and I am sticking to it. The world in general is moving towards ''Swiss-Army knife'' devices that can do anything and everything. The whole world in one handy, easy to use package.
Both Microsoft and Sony have already worked this out BTW which is why there is such a drive towards cross-platform in recent times. The console wars now exist solely in the heads of fanboys.
Re: Concord PS5, PC Sales Estimates Are Somehow Even Worse Than We Thought
The sad truth of the matter is that a lot of those early players were probably reviewers.
Re: Concord PS5, PC Sales Estimates Are Somehow Even Worse Than We Thought
This is by far one of the biggest gaming failures of all time. I've heard that Sony is on track to lose between 1 and 2 hundred million pounds. I doubt that the studio will make the end of the year either.
PushSquare needs to do a full post mortem on this game because this whole situation is fascinating. Something historic has happened here and I am not completely sure as to how and why.
Re: How Much Would You Pay for Your PS5 Games? Dev Says Industry Is Waiting for GTA 6 to Hike Prices
@Jrs1 So... the smell of most high streets then?
Re: Mini Review: TimeSplitters: Future Perfect (PS2) - Some Steps Forward, Some Steps Back for Final Entry in Famed Franchise
This was always my personal favourite game of the series. I realise that I am in the minority here but in my opinion it took everything good about T2 and made it better. It is the Vice City to T2's GTA3.
I completely disagree that this game has lost charm and creativity over the previous game. Every quotable line comes from this game. Cortez has transformed from a cut price Riddick into a character that is actually memorable. And who can forget Jo-Beth Casey? She was such a breakout star at the time that she was on the cover for Timesplitters 4. Corporate is not a term that applies here, sorry.
Re: How Much Would You Pay for Your PS5 Games? Dev Says Industry Is Waiting for GTA 6 to Hike Prices
My friends, let me introduce you to that wonderful land of milk, honey and discounts known as CEX.
Re: Players Complain of Lengthy PS5 Matchmaking Times As Concord Numbers Dwindle
@riceNpea The true face of modern capitalism - allies only whilst it makes money. Look at how corps deal with Saudi Arabia or China.
Re: Players Complain of Lengthy PS5 Matchmaking Times As Concord Numbers Dwindle
@DDDD They do not care about you. Sorry, just stating a fact. You might get a skin out of it.
Re: Players Complain of Lengthy PS5 Matchmaking Times As Concord Numbers Dwindle
F2P may save it. But other than that, buying this game is now a risk for it may end up abandoned by the end of the month.
Re: Konami 'Aware' That Metal Gear Solid 4 Is Still Stuck on PS3
@Ashina Herm? The swap disc joke was a reference to MGS1. That whole act was one long and glorious nod, wink and respectful goodbye to MGS1. You do not touch Act 4, especially as if you are going to touch anything, it is act 3.
Screw act 3. Following that one guy with his ear splitting whistle and lemming-like suicidal tendencies is easily the worst part of the game by a mile. It does not help that this is also when you learn of the retcon involving the Snake Eater cast which still pisses me off to this day.
Re: Dealmania Hits PS Store with Around 1,300 PS5, PS4 Game Discounts
Why does anyone buy a game full price on PSN when there are so many monthly sales? Seriously, you are being absolutely ripped off if you buy anything at regular price.
Re: We're Already Mourning the GTA Tokyo Game on PS2 That Never Was
I'm not a fan of the poll BTW as it is basically ''yes, yes, soft pass because I dislike GTA.'' I want an option that just says ''no''.
Re: We're Already Mourning the GTA Tokyo Game on PS2 That Never Was
OK. I'm going to be the one to say it: That game would have been racist as F because society in general did not give an F back then.
Remember Kenji in GTA3? Go back and listen to him and imagine a whole game with this guy. Different time, my friends. What was allowed then is absolute cringe today. Hogs of War 1999 for example had some Japanese lines in it that I am 99% certain will not make the often rumoured remaster. Imagine all of the following lines in an accent like Jerry Lewis:
''Hallo! Do yo, have the, great time?''
''Boom boom bang, and you're actual more fun!''
''Oh, howey there!''
And so on, and so forth. We are best off without the comedy Japanese GTA game.
Re: Incoming! Worms Armageddon: Anniversary Edition Rated for PS5, PS4
I just... I just do not see the point. Worms Arnageddon is already on PSN. From what I hear the PC version had a few more weapons, but I also hear that the PS1 version had several unique levels so that kind of balances itself out.
I'm not getting out of bed for anything less than a brand new campaign mode tbh.
Re: Round Up: Star Wars Outlaws PS5 Reviews Are Hit and Miss
@Lup That is an absolute lie but you do you.
Re: Round Up: Star Wars Outlaws PS5 Reviews Are Hit and Miss
@Lup So you've never been influenced by a review no? Never not bought something on Amazon because it has two stars or not gone to a restaurant or not gone to see a certain film?
Nope. Sorry. We are ALL influenced by that little number on the page like it or not.
Re: Round Up: Star Wars Outlaws PS5 Reviews Are Hit and Miss
1) It's a Ubisoft game. With everything negative that entails.
2) I haven't detected much FOMO with this game. And I think that is due in part to the fact that the Star Wars brand has never been more in tatters than it is now.
Re: Spare a Thought for Secret Level's Concord Episode
@ShogunRok Let's be honest here: this game has already been forgotten. And i'm not even trying to insult it by saying that, i'm stating the truth. To bounce back from player numbers this low would be miraculous.
Re: TimeSplitters 2 (PS2) – Classic FPS Has Tons of Content, But Hasn't Fully Stood the Test of Time
Seriously though, can you imagine just how many microtransactions would be in these games today? All of these hundreds of characters, multiple game modes, challenges etc? Heck, if the rumours are to be believed, Timesplitters 4 was going to be some kind of F2P nonsense.
It hasn't aged well in many ways (the first game especially) I won't deny it. But it has charm, it has a great soundtrack, and is just fun in a way that few FPS today are. 8/10 for me.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro Was Allegedly Being Talked About Openly at Gamescom
Graphics are meaningless to the average consumer (i.e. not someone who comments on websites like these) and that has been proven over and over again by the likes of Minecraft and Fortnite tearing up everything that anyone else has produced for the last ten years. Even GTA5 is still running PS3 graphics with slight tweaks. And that is exactly what we are going to be talking about here with the Pro isn't it? Slight tweaks.
Gone are the days of the 2000s when you had actual leaps in absolutely everything console to console. It is all now - slight - tweaks.
Slightly clearer HD. Slightly faster. Slightly more memory. Sorry, but my wallet is only going to open for the PS6 at this point. And that will probably be for GTA 6 given how we all know that it'll be on it.
Re: Preview: As Uncharted Rests, Xbox Provides PS5 Adventure in Indiana Jones
It does amuse me though that this game is clearly based around the original trilogy and not the terrible sequel. Even they know that no one wants to play that.
Indiana Jones 5, The Matrix 4 and Star Wars The Last Jedi: My top picks for ''the sequels that tried their absolute best to ruin everything beautiful about the original film''.
Re: Concord (PS5) - Live Service Debut Beats the Hate with Stellar Presentation and Good Gameplay
I think that this game will be forgotten about in a month.
Re: PS5, PC FPS Concord's Poor Player Numbers Have Predictably Gone Viral
@RoomWithaMoose If an exec at McDonalds came out and called me a fat pig for eating Big Mac's and that exec was not punished in some way for saying it then I wouldn't go to McDonalds anymore. Simple as that. This is exactly the same scenario as a dev insulting me and expecting me to still play their game.
Sorry but I'm going to agree to disagree with you here.