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People on websites such as this need to realise that they are the minority. Normies pick convenience over any other concern, simple as that.

Reviews are positive: Totally above board.

Reviews are negative: Review bombing.

@jrt87 Yep. That really is the dividing line between PS newcomers and veterans. If you remember the PS1, PS2, PS3 or even lets be honest the PS4, there is nothing to cheer about today beyond a handful of titles. And STILL - all of these years later - it is missing features that came standard in the past.

It is why the Pro is such a lacklustre looking investment especially when for that price you can build a very respectable gaming PC. Put down 200 more and you'll build something that completely outstrips it. Sony really has dropped the ball in recent years.

@Frmknst I know we had covid and supply issues and all that jazz, but this generation has been a real lame duck.
Rumour has it that 50% of PS4 owners have yet to upgrade. I do not blame anyone that decision tbh.

2026 at the earliest.
And probably won't be worth buying until 2028 at the earliest if the PS5 is any indication.

No one actually thinks that this is a 1 - that's a lie. Why even bother?

@Boxmonkey I am of the opinion that there is a second video game crash coming. It won't look like the first one, but it will take a couple of Triple A publishers with it.
The writing has been on the wall for at least a year now.

@ChrisDeku 5 years is still a long time to be working on this.

@carlos82 Hasn't this game been in development since 2016 though? Eight years of wages changes that calculation a lot.

This is a major win for gamers. These big corporations need to be shown that they are only as successful as we allow them to he. Serve us slop and we'll happily get the shovel.

@naruball Black Myth Wukong had something else that Concord did not have. OK... pucker up now because I am about to lay down some real powerful knowledge here that may be about to shock and astound you: Black Myth Wukong is a good game. Concord is not. And that supersedes anything else.

I never said the Concord failed because of its characters - you assumed I did. But it is a multiplying factor. Multiply zero (with zero being a flawless game) and you get zero. Multiply one hundred with one hundred and what do you get?

This is a very simple, very easy to understand concept. Crap upon crap makes something even more crap. Crap upon gold makess dirty gold.

@LogicStrikesAgain The question was "where is the agenda?" And I told you. I did not use the word "woke". That is your assumption, your projection.

@naruball An anti traditional beauty agenda for one.

It is hard to look at this selection of characters that does not include a single piece of beefcake or cheesecake and think anything else. There is nothing inclusive about a game that is clearly ignoring certain types of people. "Fat man with effeminate face and terrible haircut" was never going to cut the mustard, I'm afraid. Nor was "Fat Albert in a Doomguy cosplay".

Good. Games like these failing is a win not a loss.
Hopefully it'll scare off anyone else from producing such a game. And if not, I look forward to not buying that too.

Besides which, a lot of old games that still play well look TERRIBLE today. Almost unplayable in some cases.

I would include pretty much everything from the PS1 on this list. I grew up with these games and yet if all of those jagged, blurry polygons look horrible to my eyes, they must be causing physical pain to someone from Gen Alpha.

A lot of great games from the past are going unplayed because in 2024 they suck. Simple as that. The recentTimesplitters re-releases are excellent proof of that actually.

Concord answered this question for you.

Guaranteed sale with existing IP or take a risk creating something new that loses you 200 million. It is a simple cost benefit analysis of the current state of gaming. Everyone wants something new, and yet when something new is made, no one buys it.

@J-Dubs It costs too much for a small amount of observable difference.

You're welcome.

@Arnna "Or are you one of the sad neckbeards that defends sexual infantilisation and other gross s***."

You have yet to prove that infantilisation is a thing beyond some nebulous "look at what the Japanese are into" which comes off as actually rather bigoted tbh.

And as for "dominated by men", I follow numerous women on YouTube and Twitch who play games. I'm sorry to tell you this, but it ain't 1998 anymore. Women are everywhere in our community now.

Assertions require proof and I am seeing precious little of it right now.

@Arnna Do you have any proof of that 99% figure beyond your presumed stereotypes?

Also, "infantilising women and children"? Where the heck did that you pull that nonsense from? The last thing that I'm thinking when i look at a woman with a huge pair of uncovered knockers is "infantalised". That is the purest definition of an adult female.

@Arnna You seem to be assuming that girl gamers do not like looking at beautiful naked people too.

A lot of people make that mistake actually, assuming that women prefer characters with the sexuality level of Concord despite evidence to the contrary.

No one cared that your game wasn't "modern" as proven by the fact that Battlefield 1 sold like hot cakes.

The problem came predominantly from your TERRIBLE creative decisions. From the mediocre like Hardline, to the agenda driven slop that was Battlefield V, to the broken farce that was 2042.

But perhaps your biggest mistake of all? Using the phrase "If you don't like it don't buy it" to millions of disgruntled customers. Because not only did they take that advice in droves but many of them never came back again afterwards.

Every console adjusted for inflation according to Geoff Keighley:

PS1: $611 (1995)
PS2: $546 (2000)
PS3: $778 (2006)
PS4: $538 (2013)
PS4 Pro: $522 (2016)
PS5: $606 (2020)
PS5 Pro: $699 (2024)

@ZeD That is basically the entire gameplay loop of TS1 lol. It has aged like warm milk.

My advice to every newbie is to start with TS2. It is better in every single way. The plot of TS1 doesn't really have much bearing on 2 and 3 either apart from "time travel". There is a kind of soft reboot in effect.

@Medic_alert I'm so glad that I was born when I was. I was there for the birth of pretty much every award winning franchise. I was there for every innovation, every shread of progress, every giant leap forward.

Kids today do not know what they missed. It is why they have been lead to believe that somehow Sony is blessing them with a console that has slightly sharper leaves on a tree.

@nomither6 It corroborates everything that we've been saying against live service games, yes.

Why ever invest in a quality experience when whale farming is so cheap, quick and easy? Just shovel out that slop and make millions.

"But why were people so happy that Concord failed"?

"Let’s hope this upcoming State of Play is a good one, and not another let down like recent broadcasts have been."

Lol. That has me psyched to drop $800 on a PS5 Pro.

@LordAinsley I believe the figure is total, studio and development.

@Nepp67 Sony refunded literally everyone. Every person, every shop, every seller. They have currently not made back a single penny on their 200 million dollar investment.

That points to tax write-off.

@naruball And I do not believe them. If you can afford a $500 piece of kit, then you can save and buy an $800 piece of kit. That is the equivalent of five full-priced games and I bet that most of us here have five full-priced games.

Let's be honest what this really is all about: People are questioning the VALUE of $800, not the FEASIBILITY of $800. That little voice in the back of your head that whines when you open up your wallet only ever starts up when you are lukewarm over a purchase.

@Almost_Ghostly I absolutely disagree. And let's be clear about this: they are claiming that it'll be double the frame rate. All you've seen so far are a few clips of OLD games being enhanced.
Funny how there are no new games being released alongside it 🤔

@Pranwell If you can afford a regular PS5 then you can afford this.
Saying that all of the haters of the Pro are poor is some seriously delusional cope.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner Is there a difference between the two? Yes.
Is there $200 worth of difference?
Hell no.

Hasn't this game been delayed again?

This took too long to happen.

The Minecraft movie will be next.

Sony had this sort of arrogance back in the PS3 era after the XBoxOne fiasco. Adjusted for inflation the PS3 at launch was actually more expensive than the PS5 Pro. And that was back in 2006 ffs.

I'm still trying to see the appreciable difference between the two consoles tbh.

"But look at those slightly more defined leaves!! WOOOOO!!!"

Elden Ring is one of those games whereby you can make it ten times easier with the correct build. Which is probably where a lot of this game's rep of being difficult comes from. If you muck up from day 1 then you are going to be in for a rough time.

I think that this is a great idea.
But...
It also makes it less likely that anyone will buy a Pro. As suggested in an above comment this might be an indication of some kind of trade-in scheme though.

"We’re sure there are talented artists at Firewalk who would have had similar ideas, so we’re a little baffled as to why the game came out the way it did."

It is very clear as to why the devs took the decisions that they did when it comes to the art style - you just do not want to talk about it. And I do get it, I really do. You would be stepping into a minefield to talk about such things. But let's not pretend that it is "baffling" when it really is not.

@GamingFan4Lyf Video game character design 101: Make them cool or make them sexy.

It really, really is that simple. Let us all be very clear about one thing here. If the cast of Stellar Blade was on the front cover of this game then Concorde would right now be flying off the shelves.

It is not an "Internet thing". It is a "human nature thing". We love kicking ass as cool people and we love kicking ass whilst staring at hot people. And the original Concorde characters were universally none of these things which is in part why it failed.

The protagonists of FF8 suffer from the same problem as the protagonists of FF15: there is no diversity. And I do not mean that in the way that a lot of people use that word today.

In my opinion, FF is at its best when you have a group of assorted yet interesting weirdos banding together to go on an adventure. Where is my blue cat man? Where is the dude with a chocobo in his hair? Where is my Vivi like black mage?

Apart from Laguna, these characters are boring and just not fun to play as. Squall gets better but for half of the game his dialogue is basically "..."

And with the exception of Squall and Seifer, even their clothes are boring. They are just wearing normal 90s' street clothes. You do not see too many FF8 cosplays besides those two guys for a reason.

@Maubari Really? Yep, no thanks. Nothing stops me from playing a game quicker than ''mandatory sign in.''

I'm just glad that there will be a classic pop station in GTA6. Vice City and GTA5's Non Stop Pop FM have been on repeat for a decade at this point. Absolute bangers.

Most of these current games have not stood the test of time however. Very few would choose "a flying red square fighting another flying red square" over Elden Ring. And yet that is basically what a lot of these games are demanding of your time.

I find it hard to believe that too many people will pay this amount of money for such ancient games.

@GeeForce Daddy IGN gave it 7/10 lol.

6, 7 and 8 all from the same family. I'm not getting at anyone involved, i'm just saying that it does go to show just how arbitrary review scores actually are.

@riceNpea FP also scored less than Concord aka Sony's biggest ever first party failure.

To say "I do not agree with these Timesplitters reviews" would be lowballing it at this point.

@Frmknst Concord will only come back if there is a clear demand for it otherwise Sony will be doing nothing more than throwing bad money after bad money.

There is a lot more work to do here than just making it free.

It is obvious that Amazon would not have chosen to feature this game, so there must be some serious wasted Sony cash here.