Of course consumers actuall Give it higher than what it’s worth in how ‘good’ it is (or all games)
Need to justify that the 70-120£ spent was worth it. That’s why in polls you get people giving 10s when a game clearly isn’t, or they happily overlook bugs etc
Occasionally a game flops. It happens. The company soaks it up, takes the loss and moves forward.
MS had redfall release to ridicule, the videos of bugs etc. Phil even thought it would review much better. It didn’t and they moved on.
Companies get it wrong sometimes. It’s not even that Concord was a mess. It released in a good Sony state, they just lacked elsewhere.
On the other end of the scale, games like HD2 did much better than expected.
Luckily Sony can bounce right back with Astrobot and the upcoming Lego game. Once again slightly different than the ‘usual’ Sony games, so let’s see if people want these.
@AverageGamer it was just an example. I wouldn’t buy a tv that came without a remote. Or a sofa that had no cushions.
My point being there is very few industry out there where consumers happily buy broken products. And then pay a premium on top to buy said broken product early.
@NEStalgia may as well buy it on the ps5, I imagine it will look pretty damn good and run well. So not sure on this type of game how much of a bonus you would get from the PC port in a year or 2
Look in all honesty nobody is complaining about the polish/finish/release state as it certainly looks like a Sony product.
It’s just live service isn’t where it was 8 years ago. There are so many f2p games what is there about concord that all the other games don’t have?
I’d argue nothing. So what is the incentive for people to for out £40 to try it? When they can just go download any of the other games to try for free?
Maybe it would have been better received had there been a strong release of first party games and this was an addition GaaS game to those.
Not every game hits, and this is Sony’s big L. It’s not their first, won’t be their last.
@Fiendish-Beaver except, if a pro is coming (and especially this year) MS will have the dev kit. They will know exactly what is inside (because of porting games over) So MS can make sure the nextbox is significantly more powerful… in turn it means the ps6 would then be more powerful still as they haven’t rushed development one would guess.
I can’t disagree with the score. Because you knew from the outset it would be well made as Sony first party tends to be polished.
However even if it was 9/10 everywhere it would still struggle.
It just doesn’t have a market. There’s no niche like helldivers had or anything. It’s just another live service shooter at £35 sitting in a mountain of already established £0 live service shooter.
If you get bored of the £0 shooter you are currently playing, you are going to give another £0 game a try, not the £35 option
@ATaco probably won’t be much faster. NPC willnever be as good as a group of humans, and usually by adding NPC it increases the health of the monster you are hunting.
@Intr1n5ic nope I wouldn’t buy the X. (As a second console).
Because that’s £480 outlay (already 8 first party games at £60 a go) plus the cost of GPU which is now £180py (another 3 full price games)
Do I still get value from my S and GP?? Definitely. But going forward those waters get muddier. Because across a generation now, most games that hit PSplus hit GPU and vice versa. So needing both subs will become less.
I don’t believe Sony being the single manufacturer is a good thing either.
@Yagami yet I’ve spent hundreds of hours in the game. So clearly I like it.
If you was to actually read my comment I was talking about the social media post that said ‘we have defeated gender’ which is ridiculous because it isn’t real. It’s pixels on a screen.
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Re: Star Wars Outlaws Director a 'Little Disappointed' with Critical Reception
@Trapdoor afaik it’s an issue where they have updated the website to be like other Fraser group sites and some things haven’t gone smooth.
Re: Star Wars Outlaws Director a 'Little Disappointed' with Critical Reception
Of course consumers actuall Give it higher than what it’s worth in how ‘good’ it is (or all games)
Need to justify that the 70-120£ spent was worth it. That’s why in polls you get people giving 10s when a game clearly isn’t, or they happily overlook bugs etc
Re: Ceramite-Armoured PS5 Looks Like a Worthy Space Marine 2 Relic
Get that pad for sale Sony!
Re: Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2 (PS5) - Grimdark Shooter Is an Instant Co-Op Classic
I guess this goes on the buy list.
However I think Astro bot first, let a patch or two
Drop
Re: Star Wars Outlaws, XDefiant Disappointments Pour Pain on Ubisoft's Share Prices
@themightyant you really should jump into immortals a lot of fun.
Re: Star Wars Outlaws, XDefiant Disappointments Pour Pain on Ubisoft's Share Prices
@somnambulance that is true and of course then there is ‘will wait for it to be on a sub service’ mindset that is slowly increasing in thought.
Re: Star Wars Outlaws, XDefiant Disappointments Pour Pain on Ubisoft's Share Prices
Because more and more people are becoming savvy.
They know to wait 3months for a reduction. (Sand land out 4-5months and it’s £20 for example)
Or sign up to ubi plus for a month and play multiple games for £15.
Re: Players Take the Easy Way Out in Pursuit of Concord's Coveted Platinum PS5 Trophy
I don’t see any point in trophy hunting.
But I guess for those that do it will be a rare one to get.
Re: Black Myth: Wukong's Xbox Delay Isn't Due to Platform Limitations, Says Microsoft
The story that just keeps on giving.
Did Christmas come early?
Re: Reaction: PlayStation Needs to Take a Long, Hard Look at Itself
Ah good. The over reaction as always.
Occasionally a game flops. It happens. The company soaks it up, takes the loss and moves forward.
MS had redfall release to ridicule, the videos of bugs etc. Phil even thought it would review much better. It didn’t and they moved on.
Companies get it wrong sometimes. It’s not even that Concord was a mess. It released in a good Sony state, they just lacked elsewhere.
On the other end of the scale, games like HD2 did much better than expected.
Luckily Sony can bounce right back with Astrobot and the upcoming Lego game. Once again slightly different than the ‘usual’ Sony games, so let’s see if people want these.
Re: PS5, PC Shooter Concord Dead on Arrival, Is Being Taken Offline This Week as Dev 'Explores Options'
Perfect time to shutter the game too.
Within a day Sony hope everyone will be talking about Astrobot, and they probably will be!
Re: PS5, PC Shooter Concord Dead on Arrival, Is Being Taken Offline This Week as Dev 'Explores Options'
Shame for the devs. Nobody wants to see their work end up like this (be it gaming or whatever)
But I think it’s the right thing to do.
Hopefully the refunds come through quickly.
Re: Just Like Black Myth: Wukong, PS5 Action RPG Enotria Is Delayed Indefinitely on Xbox
Gz on the console flaming article!
Re: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater Social Media Channels Get New 25th Anniversary Branding
It’s MS owned so I wouldn’t be worrying over on PlayStation anyway.
Re: Concord Devs Maintain Radio Silence, Which Isn't Helping Matters
Poor horse flogged again. It’s dead already. Don’t need an article on every minuscule thing.
Of course they are going to stay quiet.
What else can they say? There’s nothing. They’ve poured years into a game they are (I would assume) proud of and thought people would like.
So yeah the articles on everything is pretty boring. Plenty of games flop.
Re: LEGO Harry Potter Collection Will Be Re-Released for a Third Time on PS5
Really is becoming a baaaaad generation.
Remakes, remasters, repackaged games, with a handful of new ones that mainly release a mess.
Re: How Long Does It Take to Find a Match in Concord on PS5, PC?
At this point the articles are flogging a dead horse.
You could figure out that it’s going to take age due to the fact no one bought it or is playing it.
Even gamers aren’t that stupid.
Re: Failing Manufacturers Are Pushing the Narrative That Consoles Are Dying, Says Ex-Xbox Exec
PC’s aren’t going to take over.
Maybe a % of enthusiasts like us who frequent here.
But the large majority - casuals - just aren’t going to migrate to PC’s.
They are going to go to streaming.
Re: Failing Manufacturers Are Pushing the Narrative That Consoles Are Dying, Says Ex-Xbox Exec
Consoles wil be around up until the point they are surpassed by streaming.
Simple as that.
Re: Concord PS5, PC Sales Estimates Are Somehow Even Worse Than We Thought
@RBMango in its ever so so so slight minuscule defence. It probably isn’t AAA. But that’s about it.
Re: Concord PS5, PC Sales Estimates Are Somehow Even Worse Than We Thought
Not every game hits. This one didn’t.
Sony just have to take the Loss and move on. It’s all they can do.
Re: How Much Would You Pay for Your PS5 Games? Dev Says Industry Is Waiting for GTA 6 to Hike Prices
@VaultGuy415 that $50 that came with a manual, fancy box and inserts, a cartridge, and the internals.
Totally different than printing on a couple of pence Blu-ray.
The ‘inflation’ argument just doesn’t hold up.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Star Wars Outlaws?
No issue with ubi or Star Wars, but way too manage average reviews out there.
And the insta fail stealth.
So I’ll wait for a sale and game to be finished.
Re: How Much Would You Pay for Your PS5 Games? Dev Says Industry Is Waiting for GTA 6 to Hike Prices
@AverageGamer it was just an example. I wouldn’t buy a tv that came without a remote. Or a sofa that had no cushions.
My point being there is very few industry out there where consumers happily buy broken products. And then pay a premium on top to buy said broken product early.
Re: How Much Would You Pay for Your PS5 Games? Dev Says Industry Is Waiting for GTA 6 to Hike Prices
Devs need to stop releasing games in a broken unfinished state.
No other industry would be accepting this quality. You wouldn’t buy a car that’s missing the paint. Or a hotel with no bed.
And this buy 3day early bulls**t can just f**k right off. And get rid of predatory Microtransaction.
Games that are finished on release? Yes I’ll pay. But if not I’ll wait till it’s fixed, has all its content released.
Re: Let the Astro Bot PS5 Launch Trailer Tide You Over Until Release
@NEStalgia may as well buy it on the ps5, I imagine it will look pretty damn good and run well. So not sure on this type of game how much of a bonus you would get from the PC port in a year or 2
Re: Let the Astro Bot PS5 Launch Trailer Tide You Over Until Release
@get2sammyb are you allowed to tell us which day reviews come out?
I mean I’m pretty much certain it will not be broken on release but you never know in this age!
Re: Sony Accused of Signing Secret PS5 Console Exclusivity Agreement with Black Myth: Wukong
@breakneck it’s over on purexbox
https://www.purexbox.com/news/2024/08/obsidian-says-avowed-is-running-really-really-well-on-xbox-series-x-despite-30fps-target
Re: Sony Accused of Signing Secret PS5 Console Exclusivity Agreement with Black Myth: Wukong
Kinda funny this surfaces on the exact same day that Obsidian have said avowed isn’t ready on Series S (or well along these lines)
Re: Star Wars Outlaws (PS5) - Open World Pledge Produces a Superficial Space Outing
@MikeOrator well it got a 4/10 on Eurogamer so I’d check what they played and avoid that version too.
But who knew reviewers would review things differently according to their taste?
Re: An Eternity of War Awaits as Space Marine 2's Post-Launch Roadmap Is Revealed
Sounds like I’ll wait for a few of the new modes to be added before purchasing.
Probably means a few patches will be added and a discount.
Re: Preview: Monster Hunter Wilds on PS5 Feels Like Another Generational Leap Forward for the Iconic Franchise
Bring it on.
Give me a date.
Can’t wait.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Black Myth: Wukong?
Always confused how games get a 1/10 in a sure poll. Like really?
Re: Talking Point: Can PS5, PC Shooter Concord Be Saved?
Short answer no. Long answer noo.
Look in all honesty nobody is complaining about the polish/finish/release state as it certainly looks like a Sony product.
It’s just live service isn’t where it was 8 years ago. There are so many f2p games what is there about concord that all the other games don’t have?
I’d argue nothing. So what is the incentive for people to for out £40 to try it? When they can just go download any of the other games to try for free?
Maybe it would have been better received had there been a strong release of first party games and this was an addition GaaS game to those.
Not every game hits, and this is Sony’s big L. It’s not their first, won’t be their last.
Re: Japan Hit with Yet Another PS5 Price Increase
@Fiendish-Beaver yep Sony did it first on the original increases.
Since then we have seen MS increase price in Japan, then GP. Sony has now increased price in Japan, so I expect a plus rise.
One does it then it gives the other ‘permission’ to follow suit.
Re: Japan Hit with Yet Another PS5 Price Increase
Wont be long till there is a plus increase.
MS has done it so sony will follow
Re: Spare a Thought for Secret Level's Concord Episode
Come on.
Marketing? Paying for it?
Be real. It’s only coming on air nearly 4 months AFTER release.
It’s amazing what rubbish people can come up with.
Re: Crash Bandicoot 5 Reportedly Cut in Favour of More Live Service Games
Sucks for Xbox owners, no guarantee it would be one to come to PS anyway.
No point worrying about what is made/cancelled elsewhere.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro Was Allegedly Being Talked About Openly at Gamescom
@Fiendish-Beaver except, if a pro is coming (and especially this year) MS will have the dev kit. They will know exactly what is inside (because of porting games over) So MS can make sure the nextbox is significantly more powerful… in turn it means the ps6 would then be more powerful still as they haven’t rushed development one would guess.
Re: Concord (PS5) - Live Service Debut Beats the Hate with Stellar Presentation and Good Gameplay
I can’t disagree with the score. Because you knew from the outset it would be well made as Sony first party tends to be polished.
However even if it was 9/10 everywhere it would still struggle.
It just doesn’t have a market. There’s no niche like helldivers had or anything. It’s just another live service shooter at £35 sitting in a mountain of already established £0 live service shooter.
If you get bored of the £0 shooter you are currently playing, you are going to give another £0 game a try, not the £35 option
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Concord?
@AdamNovice then I’d over watch cast already have it, why have concord copied that?
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Concord?
No it’s not for me. Never will be.
But for the people that have spent money I hope they get some enjoyment
Re: Sony to Short-Change PS Stars Members with PS Plus Renewals Starting Next Year
I don’t have it because I don’t buy an awful lot digital. But it’s just following MS nerfing their rewards.
Expect a ps plus price rise soon.
Re: Monster Hunter Wilds Confirms NPC Hunters, Perfect for Solo Players
@ATaco probably won’t be much faster. NPC willnever be as good as a group of humans, and usually by adding NPC it increases the health of the monster you are hunting.
Re: Reaction: It's Time for Xbox to Tell Us Which Games It's Bringing to PS5, and Which Games It Isn't
@Intr1n5ic nope I wouldn’t buy the X. (As a second console).
Because that’s £480 outlay (already 8 first party games at £60 a go) plus the cost of GPU which is now £180py (another 3 full price games)
Do I still get value from my S and GP?? Definitely. But going forward those waters get muddier. Because across a generation now, most games that hit PSplus hit GPU and vice versa. So needing both subs will become less.
I don’t believe Sony being the single manufacturer is a good thing either.
Re: Reaction: It's Time for Xbox to Tell Us Which Games It's Bringing to PS5, and Which Games It Isn't
@Intr1n5ic the platform is harmed by not knowing. By not being clear. When has a business ever succeeded by flip flopping?
I own ps5/Series S. do I play on the series S or do I hold out and play a better version on PS5? (Because obv ps5 more powerful)
Re: Reaction: It's Time for Xbox to Tell Us Which Games It's Bringing to PS5, and Which Games It Isn't
@cburg everybody knows they don’t.
Doesn’t stop people wanting to know, because clarity is better.
There’s no way you can believe that all the rumours/uncertainty and so in is beneficial for MS or anyone else.
Re: Joy as Capcom Ditches Gendered Armour in Monster Hunter Wilds, a Series First
@Yagami yet I’ve spent hundreds of hours in the game. So clearly I like it.
If you was to actually read my comment I was talking about the social media post that said ‘we have defeated gender’ which is ridiculous because it isn’t real. It’s pixels on a screen.
But hey ho you do you!
Re: Reaction: It's Time for Xbox to Tell Us Which Games It's Bringing to PS5, and Which Games It Isn't
I don’t think Xbox knows exactly right now. They are currently just sailing in the wind.
I’d wager whatever can give them more money. It’s all just about money.
Re: People Are Already Freaking Out Over Monster Hunter Wilds' PS5 Frame Rate
Oh look the internet is outraged. Again.
Over something they can’t even buy.
When it’s released and if it has issues then complain.