@mac_da_man Glad you had a mostly bug free experience! The strange thing about the trophies is, I got the game to start giving me trophies again by deleting and reinstalling the game. So I have a bunch of trophies in the middle missing, and then I got the story trophies after them that I should not be able to have without first getting the others!
Apparently this is a known bug that the developer has been trying to patch for a while to no avail. I find it annoying but also fascinating-I haven’t encountered anything like it with a PS game before.
Still: RoboCop and Terminator are excellent games. Which 80s property should they tackle next? Someone here suggested Total Recall, which would be amazing!
@mac_da_man I just finished Terminator Resistance too, and really enjoyed it. Just like Robocop Rogue City, they got the atmosphere of that world perfect. I would have been happy if the story of Resistance had been the sequel to T2 instead of Rise of the Machines.
My only complaint is that the Enhanced edition was really buggy, with some crashes etc. Most strangely, Some trophies I earned refused to pop, including unmissable story trophies even though I completed the game. I have never seen story trophies not pop before. Still a good game.
I am now playing El Paso Elsewhere. Fun, Max Payne meets supernatural horror game perfect for spooky season.
I finished this game last week and enjoyed it. Flawed but fun. I put in about 50 hours and got very few bugs. Some flickering on some ship launches and one time where a glass was hanging in midair over a cantina bar. That is it.
I just….I don’t see how any patch fixes what people did not like about this. I really liked it-the Star Wars atmosphere is off the charts. But I just think the stealth base of the game and a pretty slight story turned a lot of people off.
I want the game to do well-I would play a sequel for sure. But I don’t think this is a matter of polish or a patch. I think a lot of folks are rejecting what the game is. I don’t think that is fixable.
I have a Series X and a PS5, and what I usually do is play both for about six months out of the year-3 month game pass purchase and back to PS5. This is the hardest part-I have been mostly a Playstation guy since the PS1 days; my current Xbox is my first one. Every time I go on an Xbox run, I spend weeks pressing the A button when I am supposed to be pressing X. That button belongs on the bottom dang it!
Also, the red PS5 controller shown here is my favorite one!
I rolled credits on SW Outlaws last night. The flaws were so evident, so I understand why it did not do well to start. But…..I had a big stupid grin on my face the whole time I played. It just oozes Star Wars. It really felt like being placed in a story during the Return of the Jedi era. The point of gaming is to have fun, and I certainly did.
This weekend, I start my spooky season line-up! El Paso Elsewhere, The Quarry, Still Wakes the Deep and V Rising are all getting time as we move through October!
This is a well written review like all are on PS, and I understand that the mini-review format means more reviews of games. But I am on the fence about this game, and I think it could have benefitted from the full review treatment. Because of space limitations, I read this and don’t really understand the weaknesses of the game. The gameplay needs to be pushed further, but what does that mean? What is it missing?
It may make sense in the abstract. I’m sure there was a thorough analysis done at Sony before pricing.
But consumers are simply not going to buy at this price. They aren’t. So you either wait until PS6 or you recognize that the price has to be lower to get people further attached to your ecosystem.
@crossbit I am so glad you raised the check point issue, because that is a big one too. I have lost a couple chunks of progress from guard I didn’t see in the corner after stealthing carefully. There really are not enough checkpoints during those sections.
You used the perfect word in your response to me to describe the system: archaic. The game is really fun, but it could have been even more with a deeper system.
The stealth in the game is not generally overly difficult, but what I think (hope?) they are fixing in the insta-fail stealth missions are the times when detection is broken. In the first mission of that type, which I think is the one getting the most complaints, there were a number of times when the prompts came up for me to do a stealth take-down, the animation would start with Kay popping up, but then I would register as caught instead of completing it. That is the kind of stuff I hope this is fixing.
I also don’t think we should be doing insta-stealth fail in 2024. Blasting your way out should always be an option!
I am really enjoying Outlaws. The atmosphere is fantastic. But for a game with so much stealth, I really wish they had done more with it. The ability to move bodies, wear disguises and no insta fails would have been good starts.
@Loamy This is exactly what I think too. There are flaws in the game for sure, but I am having such a fun time. Every cantina just oozes Star Wars. It is too easy, and repetitive, and this and that…..but I just can’t stop playing.
Star Wars Outlaws. A lot of flaws in the game, but I am having fun. The Star Wars vibe in this is off the charts (especially sound design) and that is carrying the experience so far.
My wife got me a shirt with Han Solo’s face on it that says: “I know” on our trip to Disney this year. I have been wearing it the whole time I play! This means I am approaching it with the right spirit, and also that my wife married a nerd.
Yes. It has obvious flaws that were well covered by the PS review. But the Star Wars atmosphere is really well done. So far that is carrying me past the flaws, and I am having fun. It certainly won’t be for everyone.
I agree with pretty much everything said in this well written review so far; I am a few hours in and the flaws are evident and annoying.
And yet….I am still having fun because the Star Wars vibes are so good. That may wear thin as time goes on, but for now the scoundrel life is fun to get lost in. They got the atmosphere really right in this game.
Can I go around to each exhibit wearing a fedora yelling "This belongs in a museum!" as loud as I can, nod approvingly, and then move on to the next exhibit?
I finished the first game, and it was fine but I don't think I liked it as much as most people. Something about the combat and the loop just felt off to me.
But this has been on my radar for a while, and it looks great. I love the art style, the idea of managing the different characters and agendas, and I am a sucker for anything with a wild west theme. I am looking forward to playing this.
Folks who like this need to check out the Ghostwire Tokyo DLC set in a school. It is great, and features one of the best scares I have had in a game in a long time.
@ApostateMage I have a dog and two cats, and the room where my consoles are is the one place they are not allowed! They hate it and are always trying to get in, but I am tired of pet hair in and on my gaming machines! 😃
I am playing Dave the Diver, which is as delightful as everyone says.
There needs to be more games like Dave and Moonlighter where you dungeon/environment crawl and then sell all the stuff you collected at a shop you can personalize. I don’t know why that loop is so satisfying, but it is!
@mac_da_man Reading this feature each week, I noticed that we started and Platted Rise of the Ronin at almost the same time, and that our opinions of it are pretty much the same. I also really enjoyed it, but share your evaluation of the flaws. Kind of an odd game in a lot of ways, but a lot of fun.
Congrats on finishing the game! Glad you liked it too!
I recently got the platinum for Rise of the Ronin, a relatively rare event for me. I can see why that game is not everyone’s cup of tea, but I really enjoyed it. Especially the combat.
I am now playing Callisto Protocol, which is ok. Kind of a slog. Every review I read about it is right: There is fun to be had, but Dead Space it ain’t.
@Pepsiman_100 You and clvr are completely not understanding what I am saying, or why I am saying it. That is fine-I’m sure it is my error since at least two people are confused. But I am not going to try to fix it. I think we can all agree that SO is a good game, so not much else matters.
@clvr I wrote that in my view the main virtue of the SO games is the traversal, not that the stories should be compared. I am aware that one is a shooter and one isn’t. Traversal is the main draw of the game, and it is done better in Spider-Man.
I think my point was plainly stated, and not that complicated.
I just played this for the first time on Game Pass a few months ago. It was one that I always wanted to get to, but I did not have an Xbox when it was released. It was fun! I finished it fully and am glad I finally played it.
But, for those disappointed about lack of a port, please know that Insomniac has made much better games since Sunset Overdrive. The best part of the game is the motion as you grind across the city. That sense of motion and freedom of movement has been perfected by the Spider-Man games. So, while SO is absolutely a good game, I don't think folks are missing out on too much if they don't play it. The focus on the game is absolutely on gameplay and not story, and if you played any of the Spider-Man games you have already played a better, more modern version of what SO has to offer in that department.
Some of the weapons are really fun though! But again, Ratchet and Clank exists...........
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Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 550
@mac_da_man Glad you had a mostly bug free experience! The strange thing about the trophies is, I got the game to start giving me trophies again by deleting and reinstalling the game. So I have a bunch of trophies in the middle missing, and then I got the story trophies after them that I should not be able to have without first getting the others!
Apparently this is a known bug that the developer has been trying to patch for a while to no avail. I find it annoying but also fascinating-I haven’t encountered anything like it with a PS game before.
Still: RoboCop and Terminator are excellent games. Which 80s property should they tackle next? Someone here suggested Total Recall, which would be amazing!
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 550
@mac_da_man I just finished Terminator Resistance too, and really enjoyed it. Just like Robocop Rogue City, they got the atmosphere of that world perfect. I would have been happy if the story of Resistance had been the sequel to T2 instead of Rise of the Machines.
My only complaint is that the Enhanced edition was really buggy, with some crashes etc. Most strangely, Some trophies I earned refused to pop, including unmissable story trophies even though I completed the game. I have never seen story trophies not pop before. Still a good game.
I am now playing El Paso Elsewhere. Fun, Max Payne meets supernatural horror game perfect for spooky season.
Re: Aspyr Brings Back Star Wars Episode I: Jedi Power Battles, Out for PS5, PS4 in January
Oh wow, I loved this game on PS1!
Re: The Alters Gets Alternate Release Date, Sci-Fi Survival Game Delayed into 2025
I am looking forward to playing this, and I’m glad they are taking the time necessary to get it right.
Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - Issue 28
8/10 last week. 4/10 this week.
The world of PS knowledge is very humbling.
Re: Star Wars Outlaws' Rescue Roadmap Provides a Snapshot of Modern PS5 Gaming
I finished this game last week and enjoyed it. Flawed but fun. I put in about 50 hours and got very few bugs. Some flickering on some ship launches and one time where a glass was hanging in midair over a cantina bar. That is it.
I just….I don’t see how any patch fixes what people did not like about this. I really liked it-the Star Wars atmosphere is off the charts. But I just think the stealth base of the game and a pretty slight story turned a lot of people off.
I want the game to do well-I would play a sequel for sure. But I don’t think this is a matter of polish or a patch. I think a lot of folks are rejecting what the game is. I don’t think that is fixable.
Re: Random: Xbox Boss Complains About X Button After Being Handed PS5 Pad
I have a Series X and a PS5, and what I usually do is play both for about six months out of the year-3 month game pass purchase and back to PS5. This is the hardest part-I have been mostly a Playstation guy since the PS1 days; my current Xbox is my first one. Every time I go on an Xbox run, I spend weeks pressing the A button when I am supposed to be pressing X. That button belongs on the bottom dang it!
Also, the red PS5 controller shown here is my favorite one!
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Sony's State of Play for September 2024?
I thought it was good without much for me….and then the very last announcement made it GREAT!
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 547
I rolled credits on SW Outlaws last night. The flaws were so evident, so I understand why it did not do well to start. But…..I had a big stupid grin on my face the whole time I played. It just oozes Star Wars. It really felt like being placed in a story during the Return of the Jedi era. The point of gaming is to have fun, and I certainly did.
This weekend, I start my spooky season line-up! El Paso Elsewhere, The Quarry, Still Wakes the Deep and V Rising are all getting time as we move through October!
Re: Like a Dragon: Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii Might Be the Series' Most Insane Game Yet, Sailing to PS5, PS4 in February
I love this game series, and I love games with pirates.
Has some game developer somewhere been reading my diary?????
Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - Issue 27
8/10, my best score ever! And I wasn’t even guessing like usual!
Re: Mini Review: Wild Bastards (PS5) – Way More Bastards, But a Lot More Void
@SMcCrae95 That is really helpful, and does seem like it would be a problem for an arena type shooter.
Thanks for the additional information, and the well written review!
Re: Mini Review: Wild Bastards (PS5) – Way More Bastards, But a Lot More Void
@MFTWrecks I will check it out, thanks!
Re: Mini Review: Wild Bastards (PS5) – Way More Bastards, But a Lot More Void
This is a well written review like all are on PS, and I understand that the mini-review format means more reviews of games. But I am on the fence about this game, and I think it could have benefitted from the full review treatment. Because of space limitations, I read this and don’t really understand the weaknesses of the game. The gameplay needs to be pushed further, but what does that mean? What is it missing?
Re: 'It Makes Sense Why the PS5 Pro Price Is So High,' Say Tech Experts
It may make sense in the abstract. I’m sure there was a thorough analysis done at Sony before pricing.
But consumers are simply not going to buy at this price. They aren’t. So you either wait until PS6 or you recognize that the price has to be lower to get people further attached to your ecosystem.
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
I agree with most: the price is simply too high.
What I hope for now is it leads to a price cut for the slim so I can pick up one of those to back up my launch model.
Re: Star Wars Outlaws PS5 Patch 1.1.2 Has Trophy Fixes, Easier Stealth Missions
@crossbit I am so glad you raised the check point issue, because that is a big one too. I have lost a couple chunks of progress from guard I didn’t see in the corner after stealthing carefully. There really are not enough checkpoints during those sections.
You used the perfect word in your response to me to describe the system: archaic. The game is really fun, but it could have been even more with a deeper system.
Re: Star Wars Outlaws PS5 Patch 1.1.2 Has Trophy Fixes, Easier Stealth Missions
The stealth in the game is not generally overly difficult, but what I think (hope?) they are fixing in the insta-fail stealth missions are the times when detection is broken. In the first mission of that type, which I think is the one getting the most complaints, there were a number of times when the prompts came up for me to do a stealth take-down, the animation would start with Kay popping up, but then I would register as caught instead of completing it. That is the kind of stuff I hope this is fixing.
I also don’t think we should be doing insta-stealth fail in 2024. Blasting your way out should always be an option!
I am really enjoying Outlaws. The atmosphere is fantastic. But for a game with so much stealth, I really wish they had done more with it. The ability to move bodies, wear disguises and no insta fails would have been good starts.
Re: Guns More of a 'Fallback Solution' in Indiana Jones and the Great Circle
As long as in game Indy gives the exasperated look he gave the sword wielding man in Raiders every time he has to shoot…….. 😃
Re: Days Gone Director Roasts 'Small Game' Astro Bot PS5 for Deacon St John Cameo
I thought Days Gone was a good game. Nothing spectacular mind you, but entertaining enough, and glad I rolled credits on it.
I like the game less and less the more the team behind it whines.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Star Wars Outlaws?
8/10. Flawed but super fun. And it has the best Star Wars atmosphere of any game I have played. And I am old and have played a LOT of them.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 545
Still playing Star Wars Outlaws and having fun.
But this whole morning has been co-op with my youngest son in Cat Quest III. What fun! It is charming and purrrfect!
Re: Star Wars Outlaws Director a 'Little Disappointed' with Critical Reception
@Loamy This is exactly what I think too. There are flaws in the game for sure, but I am having such a fun time. Every cantina just oozes Star Wars. It is too easy, and repetitive, and this and that…..but I just can’t stop playing.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 544
Star Wars Outlaws. A lot of flaws in the game, but I am having fun. The Star Wars vibe in this is off the charts (especially sound design) and that is carrying the experience so far.
My wife got me a shirt with Han Solo’s face on it that says: “I know” on our trip to Disney this year. I have been wearing it the whole time I play! This means I am approaching it with the right spirit, and also that my wife married a nerd.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Star Wars Outlaws?
Yes. It has obvious flaws that were well covered by the PS review. But the Star Wars atmosphere is really well done. So far that is carrying me past the flaws, and I am having fun. It certainly won’t be for everyone.
Re: Star Wars Outlaws (PS5) - Open World Pledge Produces a Superficial Space Outing
I agree with pretty much everything said in this well written review so far; I am a few hours in and the flaws are evident and annoying.
And yet….I am still having fun because the Star Wars vibes are so good. That may wear thin as time goes on, but for now the scoundrel life is fun to get lost in. They got the atmosphere really right in this game.
Re: Lost in Random: The Eternal Die Announced, a Rogue-Lite Sequel Coming to PS5 in 2025
Lost in Random is a fun, utterly charming game. I will absolutely play the sequel when it comes out.
Re: Sci-Fi Shooter Sequel Revenge of the Savage Planet Announced, Coming 'Early-ish' 2025
First one was good fun, so I will check it out sometime!
Re: Never Has a Game Looked So Good Yet So Jank as PS5's Neo Berlin 2087
@pyrrhic_victory Now I had to know, so I googled it and it appears it is him. He posted something on X about working on the game.
Re: Never Has a Game Looked So Good Yet So Jank as PS5's Neo Berlin 2087
@pyrrhic_victory Pretty sure it is the same VA who does Jensen/Coe. Has to be, right?
Re: Never Has a Game Looked So Good Yet So Jank as PS5's Neo Berlin 2087
I’m interested but…….are the people robots? They move and talk like robots……..
Re: Quantic Dream's Troubled Star Wars Eclipse Just Lost Its Lead Writer
@ProfessorNiggle JAAAAA-SOOOOON!
Re: SEGA Announces Two Point Museum for PS5
Can I go around to each exhibit wearing a fedora yelling "This belongs in a museum!" as loud as I can, nod approvingly, and then move on to the next exhibit?
Re: Interview: Wild Bastards Dev on Why You Should Be Gunning for This Slick Sci-Fi Shooter on PS5
I finished the first game, and it was fine but I don't think I liked it as much as most people. Something about the combat and the loop just felt off to me.
But this has been on my radar for a while, and it looks great. I love the art style, the idea of managing the different characters and agendas, and I am a sucker for anything with a wild west theme. I am looking forward to playing this.
I also really enjoyed the interview!
Re: Cat Quest 3 (PS5) - Fun, Seafaring RPG Doesn't Quite Match Its Pawesome Predecessor
My youngest son and I are going to play this co-op. Can’t wait!
Re: Ghosthunter (PS2) - Overlooked Supernatural Shooter Should Be a Cult Classic
Folks who like this need to check out the Ghostwire Tokyo DLC set in a school. It is great, and features one of the best scares I have had in a game in a long time.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 540
@ApostateMage I have a dog and two cats, and the room where my consoles are is the one place they are not allowed! They hate it and are always trying to get in, but I am tired of pet hair in and on my gaming machines! 😃
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for August 2024 Announced
I’ll give The Skywalker Saga a go.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 539
I am playing Dave the Diver, which is as delightful as everyone says.
There needs to be more games like Dave and Moonlighter where you dungeon/environment crawl and then sell all the stuff you collected at a shop you can personalize. I don’t know why that loop is so satisfying, but it is!
Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - Issue 23
6/10. A barely passing grade! 😃
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 538
@mac_da_man Reading this feature each week, I noticed that we started and Platted Rise of the Ronin at almost the same time, and that our opinions of it are pretty much the same. I also really enjoyed it, but share your evaluation of the flaws. Kind of an odd game in a lot of ways, but a lot of fun.
Congrats on finishing the game! Glad you liked it too!
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 538
I recently got the platinum for Rise of the Ronin, a relatively rare event for me. I can see why that game is not everyone’s cup of tea, but I really enjoyed it. Especially the combat.
I am now playing Callisto Protocol, which is ok. Kind of a slog. Every review I read about it is right: There is fun to be had, but Dead Space it ain’t.
Re: 'PlayStation's Blessed with Marketing Budgets We're Not Able to Enjoy,' Xbox Bigwig Bemoans
I am going to send Microsoft a copy of Oliver Twist; I’m sure everyone there will identify with it.
I have an PlayStation and an Xbox and a few more gaming platforms besides. And I have to say: Xbox is just embarrassing themselves at this point.
Re: Check Out a Full 10 Minute Star Wars Outlaws Quest on PS5
My deep and nuanced take: This looks fun!
Re: RoboCop: Rogue City Dev Recruiting for Unannounced Action RPG Project
@Robocrop_Duster Total Recall was my first thought. That would make me so happy.
Re: Transformers: Galactic Trials Combines Racing and Rogue-Lite Action on PS5, PS4 This October
This is a pretty terrible trailer. But I am still keeping an eye on this one because the idea is so fun.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for July 2024?
Not really, especially since Among Us is basically free at this point.
But my backlog is so massive it doesn’t really matter.
Re: Sunset Overdrive PS5 Port Not Happening, Insomniac's Too 'Busy'
@Pepsiman_100 You and clvr are completely not understanding what I am saying, or why I am saying it. That is fine-I’m sure it is my error since at least two people are confused. But I am not going to try to fix it. I think we can all agree that SO is a good game, so not much else matters.
Re: Sunset Overdrive PS5 Port Not Happening, Insomniac's Too 'Busy'
@clvr I wrote that in my view the main virtue of the SO games is the traversal, not that the stories should be compared. I am aware that one is a shooter and one isn’t. Traversal is the main draw of the game, and it is done better in Spider-Man.
I think my point was plainly stated, and not that complicated.
Re: Sunset Overdrive PS5 Port Not Happening, Insomniac's Too 'Busy'
I just played this for the first time on Game Pass a few months ago. It was one that I always wanted to get to, but I did not have an Xbox when it was released. It was fun! I finished it fully and am glad I finally played it.
But, for those disappointed about lack of a port, please know that Insomniac has made much better games since Sunset Overdrive. The best part of the game is the motion as you grind across the city. That sense of motion and freedom of movement has been perfected by the Spider-Man games. So, while SO is absolutely a good game, I don't think folks are missing out on too much if they don't play it. The focus on the game is absolutely on gameplay and not story, and if you played any of the Spider-Man games you have already played a better, more modern version of what SO has to offer in that department.
Some of the weapons are really fun though! But again, Ratchet and Clank exists...........