Am I the only one that appreciates that the game is not focusing on romantic stuff or oversexualization and stupid forced relationships? It is all about the adventure.
At least that is all I have seen. Am I in the wrong here? There are no hidden romantic crap?
I am yet to play the first one (I own it but it is in the backlog) but I am definitely grabbing this one in the future! It looks fantastic even on PS4!
@GeneJacket At the end of the day it is RE. I am not expecting much because they are mashing 2 games into one movie.
After I saw "itchy tasty" I knew this is not a movie for everyone. It is for the fans as "normal" people would not understand it
Also Leon is very generic guy that is just cocky. Maybe that is why I wanted for them to copy and paste his looks from the game. As RE games are not the best games for character development
@RavenWolfe81 can you please tell me how many offline characters can you create on PS4? All I need to know is if there is a limit there like on the Switch.
@Kidfried No worries at all! I appreciate conversations that don't go out throwing slurs or buzzwords!
So in conclusion it is probably more on my side as I really dislike any form of sexual content or romantic notions in games
In some games like the later Assassin's Creed or the Witcher it is optional but I guess in heavy story driven game like TLOU2 it is more of an artistic choice from the writers.
But to be completely honest Druckman did not take it very professional on Twitter (for example) calling people bigots or the reports of reviewers being harassed by ND for giving the game below average reviews
@Kidfried Ok I get that you are getting angry or something like that. As I said that the game was emphasizing too much on intimate relationships unlike the first game. I knew Ellie was gay from the first game (which I really like btw!).
There were too many love interests packed in the game. 2 pregnant women one being cheated on, one turning out to be gay/bi so conveniently for the story. Which in the end turned out to be meaningless ...
Also I did not say lesbians are weird I said Ellie and Dina were weird There is a big difference! They could've just as easily make them friends that care about each other but they chose the romantic way .. even for promotion material. I am sure you remembered that when it came out and the reaction of the public. You may argue about it but it was intentional.
Anyway I cared more about how they treated Joel and on his place they put the things I mentioned above. Every time someone speaks about this game there will be 50/50 talk about it. There is no way around it
@Kidfried The fact that the game is labelled as progressive is a marketing on its own.
Also in a post apocalyptic world gender identity will be the last thing in the survival guide
The thing that put me off was the story in general The whole Joel thing was only half of the game and it was excuse for the plot. Druckman said that the theme was hate. Well he got the hate and he did not like it at all Not everyone that did not like his game is a "bigot".
Ah the other thing is the relationship of Ellie and Dina. There was zero chemistry. Why do it if it does not work? Just for the representation? Ellie and Dina were so stiff all the time and awkward!
Same with Lev, he is trans just to have an excuse to run away from his people.
@themightyant The only problem I have with it is that diversity is used as a marketing tool nowadays. And the fully part is that it markets to a minority not the majority from where the actual numbers come from
It's like those writers are above the rest because they are "good" adversaries of the so called scarce diversity in video games
I want to see diverse games without labeling them blindly with words like "brave" and "progressive".
Maybe I am too conservative for some games
But I am 100% with you on the adult discussion. Many people prefer to screech instead of participating in civil talk.
@themightyant Because there is no universally good ideal that should be pushed.
If you play games to be barraged by real world issues and political agendas then good for you There should be something for everyone but that does not mean I personally should like it and praise it
Playing TLOU2 is really depressing if you really look into its things. At the end there was no satisfaction at all.
"Revenge , bad!" is just lazy and stupid writing. I preferred to look at the environments there as they are quite beautiful.
Diversity for the sake of diversity will not do any good
@themightyant "It is not the job of a game to change the World."
Also people are ONLY talking about it when a new article about it comes around. Those articles bring the bad stuff because many people recall it only for the disappointing stuff not the good graphics and animations.
The gaming industry should not force ideals, diversity etc.
But hey that is just me
It would be quite hilarious to see TLOU Part 3 with Abby on the cover and promo videos of her. I want to see the hype and the sale numbers then
Want to bet is would NOT go even near the hype and the sales of TLOU Part 2?
@naruball I used the term "offended" because when stating my opinion people feel the need to respond directly to it instead of just posting their own.
Many times with stuff like "If people do not like the game they are bigots!".
And the yes the game is NOT revolutionary. It is shock value because before Abby did the golfing she was rescued by Joel and even survived together with him. She did not care why he did what he did and her group of people were just terrible. Each and every one of them had only negatives.
From the start I assumed that she thought Joel was simply evil drifter that killed her father for the LOLZ. Did she knew that Ellie was the one on the table? I also loved the fact when they asked him "What if it was your daughter?" when he pushed to kill the girl, and he had no answer. And that vaccine wouldn't do any good as humanity has long left the world and the Fireflies, WLF are just as horrible as the Scars.
But as Druckman said in an interview "the game is about hate". Well he got that right.
The fact that the ending was so unfulfilling was the real bummer. I seriously do not know what will they do to make the goal of Abby and Lev interesting.
Lets not forget that they did not only kill Joel, they also killed Ellie.
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Re: The Last of Us: Part I References The Office's Scranton Branch in Suitably Apocalyptic Fashion
@tameshiyaku To his chickens he is the Scranton Strangler
Damn I love the Office
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 429
This weekend I will continue progressing through Batman Arkham City!
I will finally start Hollow Knight and also try FFX!!!
Re: Spider-Man Games Could Have Been Exclusive to Xbox
But then not so many people would've played this great game!
Re: Talking Point: What PS1, PS2, and PSP Games Do You Want on PS Plus Premium?
Castlevania Lament of Inocencia and Castlevania Curse of Darkness are a MUST!
After that some Resident Evil games!
Re: Diablo 4 Dev Update Talks of More than 150 Procedurally Generated Dungeons
I hope that down the line they drop the online requirement if you want to play alone. At least on consoles.
Re: Poll: We Want You to Rate Your Favourite PSP Games
Castlevania The Dracula X Chronicles must be on top!
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Day one! This looks like a dream come true for any HP fan!
Re: Hogwarts Legacy Will Be Free of Microtransactions
So it will be a proper single player experience ... this really seems like a dream come true.
Right from their website:
https://www.hogwartslegacy.com/en-us/faq
Q: Does Hogwarts Legacy have online or co-op gameplay?
A: Hogwarts Legacy is a single player experience and does not have online or co-op gameplay.
Q: Are there in-game purchases or micro-transactions in Hogwarts Legacy?
A: Hogwarts Legacy does not have in-game purchases or micro-transactions.
The 2 most important things for me are answered
A 100% day one purchase for me!
Re: Hogwarts Legacy Gameplay Demo Shows the Harry Potter Game We've Always Wanted
This is too good to be true! ALL I want it to be a proper offline experience!
Re: Poll: Will You Buy Hogwarts Legacy?
As long as it does not have some weird online DRM thing I will 100% buy it!
I do not care one tiny bit about the politics behind it
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Reaction GIFs Are Just the Best
@middyone I just do not like it in video games It rarely add something of value to me.
It might the the exact opposite to other people but for me this is the case
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Is Getting Review Bombed on PS5, PS4 for No Reason
Reading the article I thought that they made Aloy gay in the second game and that is why people are mad
With English as non-native language is hard
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Reaction GIFs Are Just the Best
@rachetmarvel That is good to know I hate action packed games that revolve around romantic relationships.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Reaction GIFs Are Just the Best
Am I the only one that appreciates that the game is not focusing on romantic stuff or oversexualization and stupid forced relationships? It is all about the adventure.
At least that is all I have seen. Am I in the wrong here? There are no hidden romantic crap?
Re: Poll: Did You Buy Horizon Forbidden West?
I am yet to play the first one (I own it but it is in the backlog) but I am definitely grabbing this one in the future! It looks fantastic even on PS4!
Re: Game of the Year: #1 - Resident Evil Village
Village is my GOTY as well. It was so atmospheric and awesome!
Re: Poll: Did You Buy Skyrim Anniversary Edition?
If they put the creation club content on the disc I would have.
I will wait for a very cheap sale or I will get is second hand.
Re: Skyrim Anniversary Edition Upgrade Prices Revealed
Is ALL of the content on the retail (physical) version? Or it is just the old disc and you have to download all the extra content?
Re: Resident Evil: Welcome to Raccoon City Trailer Is All Prosthetics and Strawberry Jam
@GeneJacket At the end of the day it is RE. I am not expecting much because they are mashing 2 games into one movie.
After I saw "itchy tasty" I knew this is not a movie for everyone. It is for the fans as "normal" people would not understand it
Also Leon is very generic guy that is just cocky. Maybe that is why I wanted for them to copy and paste his looks from the game. As RE games are not the best games for character development
Re: Resident Evil: Welcome to Raccoon City Trailer Is All Prosthetics and Strawberry Jam
@JB_Whiting You forget the hair! The hair is important for Leon! It is too stylish to be thrown away!
I will watch and enjoy the movie as a RE fan. But that does not mean I will be 100% satisfied with Leon's casting
So there is definitely no problem
Re: Resident Evil: Welcome to Raccoon City Trailer Is All Prosthetics and Strawberry Jam
@GeneJacket He looks like Luis ... I mean it is obvious. When I watch a movie based on a games I want the actors to resemble their characters.
For movies looks matter. At least for me.
Re: Resident Evil: Welcome to Raccoon City Trailer Is All Prosthetics and Strawberry Jam
@GeneJacket The casting is terrible not the actor. He looks nothing like Leon from the games.
Is it wrong to have such opinion?
Re: Resident Evil: Welcome to Raccoon City Trailer Is All Prosthetics and Strawberry Jam
@Flaming_Kaiser Yep. It looks fun but the Leon casting is terrible.
That guy would be perfect for Luis Sera though!
Re: Insomniac Scaled Back Marvel's Spider-Man Boss to Cut Down on Crunch
The whole game is amazing! And I still have not played Miles Morales
Re: PS4 Exclusive God of War Releasing on PC in January
God of War on Steam Deck Mmmmm that is the "Vita" dream right there!
Re: Review: Diablo 2: Resurrected (PS5) - This 21-Year Belated Console Debut Still Impresses
@djlard I just wanted to try the Holy Grail challenge on console and I do not think that the 30 character limit will be enough
Also it is quite simple thing to ask
At the end I will just wait for a heavy discount and buy it myself on PS4 to see if there is a limit
Re: Review: Diablo 2: Resurrected (PS5) - This 21-Year Belated Console Debut Still Impresses
@RavenWolfe81 can you please tell me how many offline characters can you create on PS4? All I need to know is if there is a limit there like on the Switch.
Re: Review: Diablo 2: Resurrected (PS5) - This 21-Year Belated Console Debut Still Impresses
Guys can I ask for a favor? If any of you got the game on PS4 please try and create as many OFFLINE characters as you can.
The reason I am asking is because I got it on the Switch and I have a character limit of 30.
I just want to know if on PS4 you can make more than that.
Re: Here's Your Very First Look at Thor in God of War Ragnarok
Finally the perfect cosplay for me
Re: Candyman's Tony Todd Will Voice Venom in Marvel's Spider-Man 2 on PS5
Nobody is going to mention Night of the Living Dead (1990) I loved that movie!
Re: Here's Your First Horrifying Look at Resident Evil: Welcome to Raccoon City
Damn this is not Leon ... this is Luis Sera from RE 4
Re: Looks Like The Last of Us 2 Has Been Permanently Discounted on PS Store
@Kidfried No worries at all! I appreciate conversations that don't go out throwing slurs or buzzwords!
So in conclusion it is probably more on my side as I really dislike any form of sexual content or romantic notions in games
In some games like the later Assassin's Creed or the Witcher it is optional but I guess in heavy story driven game like TLOU2 it is more of an artistic choice from the writers.
But to be completely honest Druckman did not take it very professional on Twitter (for example) calling people bigots or the reports of reviewers being harassed by ND for giving the game below average reviews
Re: Looks Like The Last of Us 2 Has Been Permanently Discounted on PS Store
@Kidfried Ok I get that you are getting angry or something like that. As I said that the game was emphasizing too much on intimate relationships unlike the first game. I knew Ellie was gay from the first game (which I really like btw!).
There were too many love interests packed in the game. 2 pregnant women one being cheated on, one turning out to be gay/bi so conveniently for the story. Which in the end turned out to be meaningless ...
Also I did not say lesbians are weird I said Ellie and Dina were weird There is a big difference! They could've just as easily make them friends that care about each other but they chose the romantic way .. even for promotion material. I am sure you remembered that when it came out and the reaction of the public. You may argue about it but it was intentional.
Anyway I cared more about how they treated Joel and on his place they put the things I mentioned above. Every time someone speaks about this game there will be 50/50 talk about it. There is no way around it
Re: Looks Like The Last of Us 2 Has Been Permanently Discounted on PS Store
@Kidfried The fact that the game is labelled as progressive is a marketing on its own.
Also in a post apocalyptic world gender identity will be the last thing in the survival guide
The thing that put me off was the story in general The whole Joel thing was only half of the game and it was excuse for the plot. Druckman said that the theme was hate. Well he got the hate and he did not like it at all Not everyone that did not like his game is a "bigot".
Ah the other thing is the relationship of Ellie and Dina. There was zero chemistry. Why do it if it does not work? Just for the representation? Ellie and Dina were so stiff all the time and awkward!
Same with Lev, he is trans just to have an excuse to run away from his people.
Re: Looks Like The Last of Us 2 Has Been Permanently Discounted on PS Store
@themightyant The only problem I have with it is that diversity is used as a marketing tool nowadays. And the fully part is that it markets to a minority not the majority from where the actual numbers come from
It's like those writers are above the rest because they are "good" adversaries of the so called scarce diversity in video games
I want to see diverse games without labeling them blindly with words like "brave" and "progressive".
Maybe I am too conservative for some games
But I am 100% with you on the adult discussion. Many people prefer to screech instead of participating in civil talk.
Have a nice workday!
Re: Looks Like The Last of Us 2 Has Been Permanently Discounted on PS Store
@themightyant Just as there is praise for the game when article is made the opposite should be allowed as well:)
Also I did not care one bit if Lev(or any character) is trans. It did not add anything for the feel or the development of the character for me.
But that might be just me as I overlook any type of sexual/gender stuff in games or other media.
I do not care for representation is general. I do not identify myself with some made up characters
Also we can't have every minority represented in every big game like a meaningful checklist for the people that struggle to be seen.
Re: Looks Like The Last of Us 2 Has Been Permanently Discounted on PS Store
@themightyant Because there is no universally good ideal that should be pushed.
If you play games to be barraged by real world issues and political agendas then good for you There should be something for everyone but that does not mean I personally should like it and praise it
Playing TLOU2 is really depressing if you really look into its things. At the end there was no satisfaction at all.
"Revenge , bad!" is just lazy and stupid writing. I preferred to look at the environments there as they are quite beautiful.
Diversity for the sake of diversity will not do any good
Re: Looks Like The Last of Us 2 Has Been Permanently Discounted on PS Store
@themightyant "It is not the job of a game to change the World."
Also people are ONLY talking about it when a new article about it comes around. Those articles bring the bad stuff because many people recall it only for the disappointing stuff not the good graphics and animations.
The gaming industry should not force ideals, diversity etc.
But hey that is just me
It would be quite hilarious to see TLOU Part 3 with Abby on the cover and promo videos of her. I want to see the hype and the sale numbers then
Want to bet is would NOT go even near the hype and the sales of TLOU Part 2?
Re: Looks Like The Last of Us 2 Has Been Permanently Discounted on PS Store
@themightyant Sure, Donald Trump election win was also memorable. So success it is!
Re: Looks Like The Last of Us 2 Has Been Permanently Discounted on PS Store
I am pretty happy with my 15$ second hand copy
Re: Feature: Your Top 10 PS5, PS4 Games of 2021 So Far
RE Village deserves the number 1 spot!
Re: Absurd Adventure Game The Procession to Calvary Finally Arrives on PS4 Soon
This is so bizarre ... yet captivating. I might get it!
Re: The Last of Us 2 Celebrates First Anniversary with New Merch
@InvaderJim I can only speak for myself and for me the game was quite unfulfilling TLOU2 = disappointment.
And this argument will continue year after year
But the graphics were indeed amazing
Re: The Last of Us 2 Celebrates First Anniversary with New Merch
@naruball I used the term "offended" because when stating my opinion people feel the need to respond directly to it instead of just posting their own.
Many times with stuff like "If people do not like the game they are bigots!".
And the yes the game is NOT revolutionary. It is shock value because before Abby did the golfing she was rescued by Joel and even survived together with him. She did not care why he did what he did and her group of people were just terrible. Each and every one of them had only negatives.
From the start I assumed that she thought Joel was simply evil drifter that killed her father for the LOLZ. Did she knew that Ellie was the one on the table? I also loved the fact when they asked him "What if it was your daughter?" when he pushed to kill the girl, and he had no answer. And that vaccine wouldn't do any good as humanity has long left the world and the Fireflies, WLF are just as horrible as the Scars.
But as Druckman said in an interview "the game is about hate". Well he got that right.
The fact that the ending was so unfulfilling was the real bummer. I seriously do not know what will they do to make the goal of Abby and Lev interesting.
Lets not forget that they did not only kill Joel, they also killed Ellie.
Re: The Last of Us 2 Celebrates First Anniversary with New Merch
@naruball No. My argument is that the game plays with shock value and nothing more.
I do not get why is it so "offending" that people do not like the game? Why the need to defend it so bad?
I did not like the story and the characters. Nothing can change that just as I can't change if people liked them.
This is what I call personal opinion. You don't like it? Well that is too bad.
Re: The Last of Us 2 Celebrates First Anniversary with New Merch
@Col_McCafferty so you think that people do not like the game just because it is an exclusive?
Wow! No console or game needs fans like you!
Also the game is NOT brave. It just delivers shock value and some people are impressed by it.
In the beginning of the game when you play as Abby, Joel should've just let her die instead of saving her life. That is how bad the writing is.
Re: The Last of Us 2 Celebrates First Anniversary with New Merch
"villain-turned-hero" hahahahah. Did you even play the game?
There is zero-hero in Abby. Some kids saved her and then she saved them. Much hero big wow!!!
At least we all know that the next game will not be about Ellie as she is no longer of any worth to the games.
Still I wonder what might the future hold for Abby and Lev in their search for the Fireflies.
Re: Lance Reddick, Ella Balinska Star in Netflix's Resident Evil
They just should've made it like Spider-Man. You don't make Peter Parker black, you make a new Spider-Man Miles Morales that is black.
But I guess diversity for the sake of diversity is more important!
Re: Lance Reddick, Ella Balinska Star in Netflix's Resident Evil
@Gmork___ Good for you to know all those modern buzzwords
Re: PS Store Sales Charts: Resident Evil Village Is Queen of the Castle
@ElMarko TLOU2 story is so valuable to me that I got it second hand for 15$! Yeah! Game length =/= quality.
Most long games today are blown up to the point of being boring. (this includes TLOU2)
RE8 has a nice balance unlike RE3 Remake.