Finally started it the other week after waiting for the physical version (and finishing Rebirth!) — think I'm about a third of the way into it, given the estimate play time. Aside from a few minuscule niggles, it's pretty much everything I hoped it would be and I'm having a blast — hopefully there'll be something a bit more solid on the DLC front by the time I'm done!
@Worlock_ed Isn't it? I'm pretty sick to death of the whole '80s nostalgia circle jerk by now, but in 2012 it was still relatively unique and original to hear such a heartfelt homage to the era, and with such variety too
We've seen a few run-ups at this before — I think Double Dragon Neon was arguably the most successful - although that felt more like a celebration of the whole franchise than an attempt to reboot or reinvent the original — plus the soundtrack by Jake Kaufman is one of the best things I've ever heard, and not just in videogames.
Interested to see where they go with this, though — DD is a series that consistently seems to pop up and surprise us.
with the last mainline entry being the middling Double Dragon 4.
That game felt more like a direct sequel to the NES iterations of the series, and only really served to highlight how glaringly pared down it was compared to that of the arcade.
@johncalmc @NEStalgia Cheers for clarifying, folks! Yeah I think I'll just get as much as I can out of the free trial — and it's not that I don't necessarily want to/can't afford to pay for a sub, it just feels a bit like I'd only be playing because I'd feel obliged to get my money's worth - kind of like a gym membership, and I've already got dozens of games on my backlog as it is!
@johncalmc Thanks for the very thorough guide — I did dabble with the free version briefly, and I just finished Rebirth, so I would like a bit of a palette cleanser. One question I do have, that I wasn't 100% clear on...
You can upgrade from the free trial by purchasing the Final Fantasy 14 Starter Pack (usually around £10) as a one-off fee. Then once you own the game a subscription is £8.99 / €10.99 / $14.99 per month, and for that, you get a fully featured version of the game with no restrictions.
So does that mean I can purchase the Starter Pack (or any of the expansions) for a one-off fee to get the content, and then continue playing for free, or am I then obliged to start paying a sub thereafter?
@Dudeitsme From what I understand, Sega's Ferrari license is expired, which is why you get a slightly modified car sprite on the current available version on the Sega Ages line, and why OutRun 2 was removed from PSN/XBLA, so a physical version of the original probably won't see the light of day any time soon
@Critonic @Art_Vandelay right, but whether the servers stay up for ten years, or ten months, it's the principle of being beholden to the fact that it's ultimately temporary — and I'm not completely naive - I will most likely give GT7 a go at some point - nor am I steadfastly against the idea of games as a service, there are plenty of people who enjoy that type of thing. I'm just not personally into online/multiplayer, and the fact that mandatory online seems to have crept into single player games, something I treasure as a private pastime, that I can enjoy without the threat of it being shut down some day, just saddens me a little.
@GeeEssEff Yep, I'm by no means a racing/car aficionado, but I do really enjoy the "caRPG" elements of earlier GTs (i've only really played the very first two on PS1), and would like to check back in with the series after so long
Every so often I consider picking GT up, but I'm still a bit wary of a) the seeming reliance of MTs and b) the always-online/service aspect. Are these still as prevalent as they were when the game launched?
It's not the difficulty per se — but with the Souls games in particular, it's more about the way they're designed. I tried to get into Demon's Souls on multiple occasions, and for a little while I did get quite into it, but it was fundamentally the having to repeat a level just to get to the boss, then try to ascertain patterns or build up some sort of strategy in what little time I had before I was inevitably slain, added to the seemingly glacial levelling system, and the fact that combat just felt a bit repetitive and unsatisfying, it just didn't feel enjoyable, to me.
@SrpskaArtilerija Yeah, when they announced PDWT, I was like "okay this is getting silly now." They seem to be systematically churning through all the games that AVGN has covered to garner some of that sweet sweet cash from people who grew up watching it and now have disposable income
Oh they did make a third one didn't they? Forgot all about that — yeah I remember playing 1 which I found clunky as hell, but FE2 was noticeably more refined.
@Keyblade-Dan In an era where people seem to really put a lot of stock in physical media, LRG seem to continue to be a very consumer-unfriendly option (and often the only option)
I've still yet to see the movie, but it all feels a bit redundant — an action adventure film, based on a game, that was heavily inspired by action adventure films. Similar levels of bafflement I have with the idea of making an Until Dawn film.
I really enjoyed DAO and DAII, but I stalled with the third game because I was waiting to get it on PS4. Now that there's finally a new one I'll likely power through it, right after I'm done with Rebirth and Sea of Stars.
@johncalmc As much as I absolutely loved LiS and BtS, I still haven't gotten around to playing LiS2 — the gobby expressions on the faces of the characters I found weirdly offputting.
While you won’t be able to import your progress – a reasonable decision considering some may have lost their save files – an early conversation will allow you to quickly outline your choices from the original, making them canon.
This bodes well — I don't know how else you could feasibly do a sequel, hence why Before the Storm was designed a prequel.
@BrotherFriede Yeah, same — I'm (mostly) enjoying the FFVII Remake series, but I'm in the back half of Rebirth and I'm really starting to feel the bloat. FFIX was already a pretty packed game as it is, so a like for like remake would be awesome.
@AdamNovice Yeah, I'm really not a fan of subscription services as a rule — what actually tipped me over for NSO is the cloud save/backups; the games are more of a bonus than an active pursuit.
And yeah, Maximo was a series that passed me by, but it really has that "early PS2" vibe about it and I'm sure it'd go down well with early adopters from the time (I was late to the party)
I've still yet to play Inquisition, but I was a big fan of DAO (and 2 was pretty decent as well) — CG trailers usually leave me feeling a bit indifferent, but I got really pumped to get back into Thedas, it's been way too long!
I will almost certainly buy Astro, but i'm maybe 25/75 on Horizon Lego; I've still not played Forbidden West yet, and a Lego spinoff seems the kind of thing I'd slot in between games rather than a full commitment
I think 10-15 years ago I would have been drooling at the mouth for a game like this but I just can't muster the enthusiasm for what seems like a bang-average third-person action adventure with some Hogwarts skin slapped over the top
Just playing catch-up with the State of Play — arena shooters are really not the genre of game I go for personally, but I imagine for those that do, it'll do a decent job, so why all the hate?
@nessisonett yeah, the snarky Joss Whedon "well THAT just happened" style of writing/delivery got really stale post the first Avengers film
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Re: No Man's Sky: Worlds Part I Responsible for Nearly 500% Increase in PS5, PS4 Players
@HotGoomba It's kinda like Spacenautica, if you've ever played those
Re: Capcom Says It Won't Give Up on Physical Games, Despite Utter Domination of Digital Sales
@Czar_Khastik No need for optional manky hair physics on the PS7!
Re: Latest PS5 Firmware Update Adds Game Session Sharing via URL, Here Are the Patch Notes
Preposterous — Nintendo would never Share Link
Re: Arranger: A Role-Puzzling Adventure (PS5) - This Unique Puzzle Game Never Stands Still
Just seen a few gameplay videos of this — looks a lot of fun. Reminds me of an ancient Amstrad game called Quack a Jack
Re: Over 4,500 Massive PS5, PS4 Games Discounted in Sizzling Summer Sale
I do love how the recent Resi games frequently plummet in price during sales — they're well worth a punt
Re: Sea of Stars Dev Offers Brief Update on Story DLC, Co-Op Mode
Finally started it the other week after waiting for the physical version (and finishing Rebirth!) — think I'm about a third of the way into it, given the estimate play time. Aside from a few minuscule niggles, it's pretty much everything I hoped it would be and I'm having a blast — hopefully there'll be something a bit more solid on the DLC front by the time I'm done!
Re: Double Dragon Revive Is a New, 3D Beat-'Em-Up from Arc System Works
@Worlock_ed Isn't it? I'm pretty sick to death of the whole '80s nostalgia circle jerk by now, but in 2012 it was still relatively unique and original to hear such a heartfelt homage to the era, and with such variety too
Re: A 3D Double Dragon Revival Is in Development at Arc System Works
@PuppetMaster The Street Fighter 6 Story Mode felt like a 3D Final Fight RPG
Re: A 3D Double Dragon Revival Is in Development at Arc System Works
We've seen a few run-ups at this before — I think Double Dragon Neon was arguably the most successful - although that felt more like a celebration of the whole franchise than an attempt to reboot or reinvent the original — plus the soundtrack by Jake Kaufman is one of the best things I've ever heard, and not just in videogames.
Interested to see where they go with this, though — DD is a series that consistently seems to pop up and surprise us.
That game felt more like a direct sequel to the NES iterations of the series, and only really served to highlight how glaringly pared down it was compared to that of the arcade.
Re: Feature: Serving Up Aloy of Food with the Official Horizon Cookbook
Ace article, really inspirational (and there are amoeba on Saturn that can boil a better egg than me) — I love when people make things like this.
Re: Capcom Ends New Content Support for Exoprimal
This game came out?
Re: RoboCop: Rogue City Dev Recruiting for Unannounced Action RPG Project
Goonies Online
Re: Final Fantasy 14 Beginner's Guide: Get Started in Eorzea
@johncalmc @NEStalgia Cheers for clarifying, folks! Yeah I think I'll just get as much as I can out of the free trial — and it's not that I don't necessarily want to/can't afford to pay for a sub, it just feels a bit like I'd only be playing because I'd feel obliged to get my money's worth - kind of like a gym membership, and I've already got dozens of games on my backlog as it is!
Re: Final Fantasy 14 Beginner's Guide: Get Started in Eorzea
@johncalmc Thanks for the very thorough guide — I did dabble with the free version briefly, and I just finished Rebirth, so I would like a bit of a palette cleanser. One question I do have, that I wasn't 100% clear on...
johncalmc wrote:
So does that mean I can purchase the Starter Pack (or any of the expansions) for a one-off fee to get the content, and then continue playing for free, or am I then obliged to start paying a sub thereafter?
Re: Elden Ring's Difficulty Destroyed By New Shield Weapons, as Players Call Them 'Absolutely Busted'
To quote Magneto...
Shhhhiellllllld.
Re: Shocking: There's a New Resident Evil Game in Development
I wonder how they're gonna work the roman numeral "9" into the title?
Resident Evil IXnay on the Ombizay
Re: SEGA's New Crazy Taxi Game Is Open World and Multiplayer
@Dudeitsme From what I understand, Sega's Ferrari license is expired, which is why you get a slightly modified car sprite on the current available version on the Sega Ages line, and why OutRun 2 was removed from PSN/XBLA, so a physical version of the original probably won't see the light of day any time soon
Re: Mini Review: #BLUD (PS5) - Amazing Cartoon Aesthetics Elevate a Decent Action Adventure
@Mostik An all-digital gaming landscape wouldn't exactly keep me up at night, but as long as the option is there I will always go physical.
Re: DON'T NOD Delays the Promising Lost Records on PS5 to Avoid New Life Is Strange
That's jolly decent of them. And yeah, it'd be nice to have the time between both games to play/absorb/appreciate/digest.
Re: Next Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Update Could Be a Big One
@Critonic @Art_Vandelay right, but whether the servers stay up for ten years, or ten months, it's the principle of being beholden to the fact that it's ultimately temporary — and I'm not completely naive - I will most likely give GT7 a go at some point - nor am I steadfastly against the idea of games as a service, there are plenty of people who enjoy that type of thing. I'm just not personally into online/multiplayer, and the fact that mandatory online seems to have crept into single player games, something I treasure as a private pastime, that I can enjoy without the threat of it being shut down some day, just saddens me a little.
Re: Next Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Update Could Be a Big One
@Art_Vandelay my worry is the idea of them shutting the servers down in years to come when I might actually want to play it
Re: Next Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Update Could Be a Big One
@GeeEssEff Yep, I'm by no means a racing/car aficionado, but I do really enjoy the "caRPG" elements of earlier GTs (i've only really played the very first two on PS1), and would like to check back in with the series after so long
Re: Next Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Update Could Be a Big One
@Kidfunkadelic83 Nice one — will do! One could argue that the new Resi games' MTs are a factor, but they barely even register for me!
Re: Next Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Update Could Be a Big One
@dgmgeneral07 @nitram2k11 Cheers folks — i'll keep 'em peeled for a sale
Re: Next Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Update Could Be a Big One
Every so often I consider picking GT up, but I'm still a bit wary of a) the seeming reliance of MTs and b) the always-online/service aspect. Are these still as prevalent as they were when the game launched?
Re: Dr Disrespect Admits Messages to Minor 'Leaned Too Much in the Direction' of Impropriety
Is this man even a qualified medical professional?
Re: A Mischievous Boy Has Leaked Footage of Jet Set Radio's Revival for PS5
@get2sammyb I'll see your Sweet Soul Brother and raise you a Super Brother
Re: A Mischievous Boy Has Leaked Footage of Jet Set Radio's Revival for PS5
@Futureshark this is most disturbing.
Re: Poll: Can a Game's Brutal Difficulty Put You Off Playing It?
It's not the difficulty per se — but with the Souls games in particular, it's more about the way they're designed. I tried to get into Demon's Souls on multiple occasions, and for a little while I did get quite into it, but it was fundamentally the having to repeat a level just to get to the boss, then try to ascertain patterns or build up some sort of strategy in what little time I had before I was inevitably slain, added to the seemingly glacial levelling system, and the fact that combat just felt a bit repetitive and unsatisfying, it just didn't feel enjoyable, to me.
Re: Bubsy Is Back in the Purrfect Collection on PS5
@SrpskaArtilerija Yeah, when they announced PDWT, I was like "okay this is getting silly now." They seem to be systematically churning through all the games that AVGN has covered to garner some of that sweet sweet cash from people who grew up watching it and now have disposable income
Re: Bubsy Is Back in the Purrfect Collection on PS5
Man, Limited Run will sell any old garbage won't they?
Re: PS1 Classic Fear Effect Gunning for PS5, PS4 in 2025
Oh they did make a third one didn't they? Forgot all about that — yeah I remember playing 1 which I found clunky as hell, but FE2 was noticeably more refined.
Re: Sony Is Allegedly Pulling PSVR2 Funding, Report Claims
Nah, it's something I've tried and enjoyed briefly but never really considered buying one — certainly not gonna drop half a grand on one.
Re: Beyond Good & Evil 20th Anniversary Edition Confirmed for Limited Run Games Showcase
@Keyblade-Dan In an era where people seem to really put a lot of stock in physical media, LRG seem to continue to be a very consumer-unfriendly option (and often the only option)
Re: As If There Was Any Doubt, a Sequel to the Uncharted Movie Has Been Confirmed
I've still yet to see the movie, but it all feels a bit redundant — an action adventure film, based on a game, that was heavily inspired by action adventure films. Similar levels of bafflement I have with the idea of making an Until Dawn film.
Re: Poll: So, What Are Your Thoughts on Dragon Age: The Veilguard?
I really enjoyed DAO and DAII, but I stalled with the third game because I was waiting to get it on PS4. Now that there's finally a new one I'll likely power through it, right after I'm done with Rebirth and Sea of Stars.
Re: Cult PS3 Classic Lollipop Chainsaw RePOP Returns on PS5 in September
@get2sammyb licensing ruins everyone's fun in videogames
Re: Life Is Strange: Double Exposure Is a Detective PS5 Game with a Supernatural Side
@johncalmc As much as I absolutely loved LiS and BtS, I still haven't gotten around to playing LiS2 — the gobby expressions on the faces of the characters I found weirdly offputting.
This bodes well — I don't know how else you could feasibly do a sequel, hence why Before the Storm was designed a prequel.
Re: Across Its Vaunted IP, Capcom Fans Crave Dino Crisis Above All Else
I vote Di-yes to Dino
Re: Final Fantasy 9 Remake Is Almost Certainly Real as Another Database Leak Appears
@BrotherFriede Yeah, same — I'm (mostly) enjoying the FFVII Remake series, but I'm in the back half of Rebirth and I'm really starting to feel the bloat. FFIX was already a pretty packed game as it is, so a like for like remake would be awesome.
Re: Three New PS2 Games Now Available on PS5, PS4 with PS Plus Premium
@AdamNovice Yeah, I'm really not a fan of subscription services as a rule — what actually tipped me over for NSO is the cloud save/backups; the games are more of a bonus than an active pursuit.
And yeah, Maximo was a series that passed me by, but it really has that "early PS2" vibe about it and I'm sure it'd go down well with early adopters from the time (I was late to the party)
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Reveal Has Utterly Torn Fan Opinion as Trailer Gets Slaughtered
I've still yet to play Inquisition, but I was a big fan of DAO (and 2 was pretty decent as well) — CG trailers usually leave me feeling a bit indifferent, but I got really pumped to get back into Thedas, it's been way too long!
Re: Three New PS2 Games Now Available on PS5, PS4 with PS Plus Premium
Thanks — all I needed to hear £16 for TR Legend seems a little steep though, definitely gonna wait for a sale, for that one
Re: Reaction: You Said You Were Sick of PS5's Sad Dad Sims, So You Better Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is
I will almost certainly buy Astro, but i'm maybe 25/75 on Horizon Lego; I've still not played Forbidden West yet, and a Lego spinoff seems the kind of thing I'd slot in between games rather than a full commitment
Re: PS1-Style Horror Game Post Trauma Coming to PS5, Out This Year
@BeerIsAwesome It's brown trousers time
Re: The Last of Us 2's Story Could Take Three HBO Seasons to Complete
@Steel76 but the real monster... is MAN!
Re: Many More PS5, PS4 Games from China on the Way
@PuppetMaster They really lucked out that the initials spelled "Fist"
Re: Hogwarts Legacy PS5, PS4 Summer Update Detailed in New Video
I think 10-15 years ago I would have been drooling at the mouth for a game like this but I just can't muster the enthusiasm for what seems like a bang-average third-person action adventure with some Hogwarts skin slapped over the top
Re: PlayStation Fans Are Losing Their Heads Over an Iffy Portable PS4 Rumour
I highly doubt Sony would have signed off that glowing D-Pad
Re: Big New PS5, PC Shooter Concord Has an Uphill Battle Ahead of It
Just playing catch-up with the State of Play — arena shooters are really not the genre of game I go for personally, but I imagine for those that do, it'll do a decent job, so why all the hate?
@nessisonett yeah, the snarky Joss Whedon "well THAT just happened" style of writing/delivery got really stale post the first Avengers film