While everyone is crying about this it seems it may have been a move from Kodokawa and Sony to prevent a takeover from a South Korean conglomerate called Kakao which makes sense because Japanese companies prefer to stay in Japanese hands.
@Matroska Yeah it's 5th but the lowest 13 are only separated by a few hundred players and the rest just a couple of thousand. Like I said before a few of them don't actually hit their peaks until much later when they go into the steam sales. The point is Lego games just don't do well on steam at launch apart from one outlier. Even the 4 top games out of the 25 games with 5k odd peak players are not good numbers either, sure they are better than horizon but they are still bad.
Maybe they have some data that tells them PC players are more likely to buy expensive limited edition Lego sets or something because Lego games on steam always seem to flop.
@Matroska have you ever looked at the Lego games on steam? Apart from Lego Skywalker Saga they all have low CCUs and most don't even get their peaks until months and sometimes years later. Lego Harry Potter Collection only hit its peak last month.
Lifetime Peak Concurrent Players
Lego Incredibles - 285
Lego Pirates of the Caribbean - 468
Lego Harry potter years 5-7 - 326
Lego Star Wars Clone Wars - 832
Lego Batman 2 - 523
Lego Batman 3 - 2,186
Lego City Undercover - 833
Lego Harry potter collection - 620
Lego 2k Drive - 1,039
Lego DC Supervillains - 866
Lego movie - 1,402
Lego Marvel Avengers - 2,112
Out of 25 Lego games on steam 18 of them have less than 3k peaks and only 1 of them has more than 6k and that's the Skywalker Saga with 82k.
Lego games just don't do well on steam at least at launch to the point I'm wondering why the publishers even bother putting them on there, maybe they have long tails and are basically evergreens or something so they eventually make a profit otherwise it just seems like a waste of time.
Hopefully this is real and if it's it'll sail through no problem despite what the haters want people to believe then they can go after CD Project Red next.
@AdamNovice Yeah Sony is also the most nominated publisher this year as well with 16 nominations and Astrobot & Rebirth both have the most nominations with 7 each.
The fact that you can't play shadow of the erdtree without owning Elden Ring means it shouldn't even be eligible also if it or Balatro wins I'll never watch the game awards again.
@Porco you know exactly what I meant. It is off to a decent start and in Hiroki's own words the sales have been slightly stronger than the PS4 Pro's and the price is higher as well.
Keep hating though, in fact why don't you go on another rant about the Portal even though we only hear good things about the monthly sales for that as well. 👍
I read the headline and was scratching my head thinking was Shadows supposed to be live service game and I missed it anyway this game is definitely not for me.
So Xbox console sales still decreased even though they put Cod on gamepass.
Stick a fork in it Phil it's done and down 11% on MW3 which is one of the worst cod's that underperformed by cod standards lol. I guess the big question is how much it helped increase subs but Xbox will never give those numbers and I doubt it was massive if it couldn't even increase sales lmao.
So what's almost exactly the same according to Dring? 10% less? 20% or maybe even more. He's quick to throw out the percentages for other games but it's clear he can't be trusted with this one.
Dring also said it sold worse than Star Wars Outlaws which you've conveniently left out of this article and it took about a month for outlaws to sell about 1 million copies so this statement by him is so vague and pointless it means absolutely nothing.
He didn't even give any percentages like he usually does. He was as vague as possible and tried to paint it in a good light, which is hilarious because he ***** on Rebirth sales but suddenly Veilguard is doing okay according to him, yeah no make it make sense.
@breakneck If they did get the Physint IP in return then that's probably a good deal because a stealth action espionage game by Kojima will obviously have a wider appeal than death stranding.
Kojima probably had the option to buy the rights back or they just automatically reverted although I suppose there could have been some kind of deal where Sony gets the Physint IP in return..
@DennisReynolds I saw a post with a big list of reviews that had what I would call legitimate criticism of the game. Which said go check Steam to check if these reviews are still there and I looked and they had been deleted but I did see plenty of reviews still there that people are posting just to counteract any review bombing.
Blatant comments like the game is just a 3 star game but I'm giving it a 5 because of review bombers or others like the game is a laggy mess for me despite what digital foundry said I can't get the game to run properly but I'll still give it 5 stars to own the chuds and incels.
There actually seems to be quite a lot of reverse review bombing going on for it which is working exceptionally well because of Steam deleting critical reviews and if the concurrent barely surpasses launch day then we can assume there was quite a few refunds happening as well and that the game hasn't really sold well on steam at all.
@DennisReynolds Yeah but that's only because Steam has been hard at work deleting bad reviews, even a lot of the one's that had some legitimate criticism of the game but conveniently leaving the ones that say they are just scoring it 5 stars to counteract any review bombing.
This is just Sony port numbers of their old games which we know don't sell very well on PC in the long run.
A better comparison would be dragons dogma 2 it is a recent game that had 228k concurrent on steam and took 2 weeks to sell 2.5 million on all platforms. Except DD2 obviously had a much lower budget than DAV.
Gamalytic has this estimated to have sold about 211k so far and even if it has done 3x that on console (doubt) which is actually not bad but not really that good for something that was originally highly anticipated and part of a massively popular franchise.
Circana & Dring will obviously be very kind with their statements about the sales, for that I have no doubt but I think we're going to be looking at Star Wars Outlaws flop numbers for DAV when all is said and done.
Steam count and Gamalytic aren't that reliable half the time though and sales could have already dropped off a cliff.
Looks amazing and I'm definitely upgrading. The only shot I liked more on the original was in the mountain pass with the red sky but could that partly be down to the day and night cycle maybe?
@Titntin I'm happy you like what you see, good for you and I've watched plenty of reviews and videos about this game because I like the old dragon age games but I definitely don't like what I see with this one so I'm going to let that be known just like how you're saying I'm looking forward to it or you're going to give it a chance.
Unfortunately for you, you can't silence people. If you can't handle any criticism of the game then just ignore my comments on articles about this game, that should be simple enough right.
@Titntin The game has really bad writing and dialogue so it's definitely not a 10/10 so for that reason alone anyone giving it a 10 definitely cannot be trusted.
Especially Eurogamer, I've long since lost any faith I had in their reviews.
The 3 games that were cancelled were Battlecrush, Miniverse and Doguri adventure. There was no mention of the Horizon mmo mobile game whatsoever or any indication that its development was actually impacted but I guess that sub heading spices up this article.
I guess the upgrade isn't available for physical copies until release day because I looked and can't find it but I'm definitely buying it when I get the chance. It looks great and well worth it.
Looking at the sales charts for it in the month it released it was 13th in the US according to Circana and 4th in the UK from the Nintendo Life article with almost all the sales being split between Playstation and Nintendo.
Xbox's numbers for it were irrelevant as usual, I guess they just looked at it as a should've been on Gamepass game but I wonder what the PC sales were like, anyway it's a shame if they've been closed, hopefully the talent gets picked up by other studios straight away.
EDIT: looking at the Steam lifetime concurrent it definitely flopped on there as well.
@Keyblade-Dan Don't be, Christopher Dring said it was a massive hit across Europe and its launch sales are up 140% compared to FighterZ which was the fastest selling Dragonball game in Europe.
@Deoxyr1bose Would you have preferred if they waited 2 more days before they announced it? It'll have been 15 months by the time it releases on PC anyway and honestly I'm surprised this one didn't come sooner because of that leaked build from the insomniac hack.
@LowDefAl Then I guess you'll be happy to hear physical copies sold out in loads of countries really fast and now there's long wait times for a physical copy while retailers are waiting for new stock.
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Re: Rumour: Next-Gen AMD Tech to Power Supposed Sony Handheld as Well as PS6
Feel like I remember reading awhile back that Sony had already chosen to go with AMD again for PS6 while Xbox were still shopping around.
It made me think Xbox was unsure whether to commit because they were still unsure whether they'll even make another proper next gen console.
Re: 'No Plans' for Cyberpunk 2077 PS5 Pro Patch, CD Projekt Red Confirms
Even more reason for Sony to try and buy them after they get Kodokawa then.
Re: Kadokawa Confirms Sony Acquisition Interest
While everyone is crying about this it seems it may have been a move from Kodokawa and Sony to prevent a takeover from a South Korean conglomerate called Kakao which makes sense because Japanese companies prefer to stay in Japanese hands.
Re: The Largely Forgotten Need for Speed Unbound Is Still Getting Big Updates on PS5
Well I just bought it dirt cheap recently but haven't tried it yet so I guess I'll wait for the update.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Farming Simulator 25 Crops Up in a Nintendo-Heavy Top 10
@Matroska Yeah it's 5th but the lowest 13 are only separated by a few hundred players and the rest just a couple of thousand. Like I said before a few of them don't actually hit their peaks until much later when they go into the steam sales. The point is Lego games just don't do well on steam at launch apart from one outlier. Even the 4 top games out of the 25 games with 5k odd peak players are not good numbers either, sure they are better than horizon but they are still bad.
Maybe they have some data that tells them PC players are more likely to buy expensive limited edition Lego sets or something because Lego games on steam always seem to flop.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Farming Simulator 25 Crops Up in a Nintendo-Heavy Top 10
@Matroska have you ever looked at the Lego games on steam? Apart from Lego Skywalker Saga they all have low CCUs and most don't even get their peaks until months and sometimes years later. Lego Harry Potter Collection only hit its peak last month.
Lifetime Peak Concurrent Players
Out of 25 Lego games on steam 18 of them have less than 3k peaks and only 1 of them has more than 6k and that's the Skywalker Saga with 82k.
Lego games just don't do well on steam at least at launch to the point I'm wondering why the publishers even bother putting them on there, maybe they have long tails and are basically evergreens or something so they eventually make a profit otherwise it just seems like a waste of time.
Re: Sony Reportedly in Talks to Acquire Elden Ring Maker Kadokawa Corp
Hopefully this is real and if it's it'll sail through no problem despite what the haters want people to believe then they can go after CD Project Red next.
Re: All The Game Awards 2024 Nominees Revealed, Astro Bot Up for 7 Awards
Just realised that playstation is the only platform that you can currently play all of those game of the year games on.
Re: All The Game Awards 2024 Nominees Revealed, Astro Bot Up for 7 Awards
@AdamNovice Yeah Sony is also the most nominated publisher this year as well with 16 nominations and Astrobot & Rebirth both have the most nominations with 7 each.
Re: All The Game Awards 2024 Nominees Revealed, Astro Bot Up for 7 Awards
The fact that you can't play shadow of the erdtree without owning Elden Ring means it shouldn't even be eligible also if it or Balatro wins I'll never watch the game awards again.
EDIT: Black ops 6 can suck it as well.
Re: The Game Awards Confirms DLC, Remasters Can Win Game of the Year Days Prior to Nominations Reveal
Remakes yeah sure but remasters and DLC definitely shouldn't be eligible. They should get their own category.
Re: UK Retailers Are All Discounting the PS5 Pro Already
@Porco why would they need to announce sales numbers for a controller, now the Xbox One X on the other hand, hmm, I wonder why we never got them.
Re: UK Retailers Are All Discounting the PS5 Pro Already
@Porco you know exactly what I meant. It is off to a decent start and in Hiroki's own words the sales have been slightly stronger than the PS4 Pro's and the price is higher as well.
Keep hating though, in fact why don't you go on another rant about the Portal even though we only hear good things about the monthly sales for that as well. 👍
Re: UK Retailers Are All Discounting the PS5 Pro Already
@Porco Except we know it sold well in Japan and the US already.
As Sammy has said this just seems to be a UK price match type of thing but we'll know more once Dring gives some info on it.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Will Not Have a Paid Battle Pass or Subscription on PS5
I read the headline and was scratching my head thinking was Shadows supposed to be live service game and I missed it anyway this game is definitely not for me.
Re: PS5 Consoles, PSVR2 Discounts for Black Friday Seemingly Revealed
@Ravix It already went back up to £690 at Argos.
Re: Black Ops 6 Drives Monthly PS5 Sales Growth in the UK, 75% of Players Purchase on PlayStation
So Xbox console sales still decreased even though they put Cod on gamepass.
Stick a fork in it Phil it's done and down 11% on MW3 which is one of the worst cod's that underperformed by cod standards lol. I guess the big question is how much it helped increase subs but Xbox will never give those numbers and I doubt it was massive if it couldn't even increase sales lmao.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Sales Keep Pace with Dragon's Dogma 2, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth in UK
So what's almost exactly the same according to Dring? 10% less? 20% or maybe even more. He's quick to throw out the percentages for other games but it's clear he can't be trusted with this one.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Sales Keep Pace with Dragon's Dogma 2, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth in UK
Dring also said it sold worse than Star Wars Outlaws which you've conveniently left out of this article and it took about a month for outlaws to sell about 1 million copies so this statement by him is so vague and pointless it means absolutely nothing.
He didn't even give any percentages like he usually does. He was as vague as possible and tried to paint it in a good light, which is hilarious because he ***** on Rebirth sales but suddenly Veilguard is doing okay according to him, yeah no make it make sense.
Re: LEGO Horizon Adventures Is Getting a Surprisingly Huge Marketing Push
Ngl this did make me smile.
Pissing the night away... he drinks a whiskey drink, he drinks a vodka drink, he drinks a lager drink
Memories man, memories.
.@Mikey856 lighten up.
Re: Death Stranding Gets a Surprise Xbox Series X|S Port, Out Now
@breakneck If they did get the Physint IP in return then that's probably a good deal because a stealth action espionage game by Kojima will obviously have a wider appeal than death stranding.
Re: Death Stranding Gets a Surprise Xbox Series X|S Port, Out Now
Kojima probably had the option to buy the rights back or they just automatically reverted although I suppose there could have been some kind of deal where Sony gets the Physint IP in return..
Re: PS5 Pro Has a Remarkable Impact on Unpatched Games Too
Didn't Game Science hint at a DLC? If it does get a Pro patch it'll probably come with the DLC.
Re: PS5 Pro Could Seriously Improve the Quality of Your PS4 Games
I saw the manual and apparently the Pro has 18gb of ram as well, which I was not expecting.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Comes Out Swinging, Already EA's Biggest Single Player Game on Steam
@DennisReynolds I saw a post with a big list of reviews that had what I would call legitimate criticism of the game. Which said go check Steam to check if these reviews are still there and I looked and they had been deleted but I did see plenty of reviews still there that people are posting just to counteract any review bombing.
Blatant comments like the game is just a 3 star game but I'm giving it a 5 because of review bombers or others like the game is a laggy mess for me despite what digital foundry said I can't get the game to run properly but I'll still give it 5 stars to own the chuds and incels.
There actually seems to be quite a lot of reverse review bombing going on for it which is working exceptionally well because of Steam deleting critical reviews and if the concurrent barely surpasses launch day then we can assume there was quite a few refunds happening as well and that the game hasn't really sold well on steam at all.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Comes Out Swinging, Already EA's Biggest Single Player Game on Steam
@DennisReynolds Yeah but that's only because Steam has been hard at work deleting bad reviews, even a lot of the one's that had some legitimate criticism of the game but conveniently leaving the ones that say they are just scoring it 5 stars to counteract any review bombing.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Comes Out Swinging, Already EA's Biggest Single Player Game on Steam
This is just Sony port numbers of their old games which we know don't sell very well on PC in the long run.
A better comparison would be dragons dogma 2 it is a recent game that had 228k concurrent on steam and took 2 weeks to sell 2.5 million on all platforms. Except DD2 obviously had a much lower budget than DAV.
Gamalytic has this estimated to have sold about 211k so far and even if it has done 3x that on console (doubt) which is actually not bad but not really that good for something that was originally highly anticipated and part of a massively popular franchise.
Circana & Dring will obviously be very kind with their statements about the sales, for that I have no doubt but I think we're going to be looking at Star Wars Outlaws flop numbers for DAV when all is said and done.
Steam count and Gamalytic aren't that reliable half the time though and sales could have already dropped off a cliff.
Re: PS5 Pro Is Not Compatible with PS5 Slim Face Plates
The bottom plates fit but the top plates don't and I'm sure I already knew this. I remember reading about it on Reddit a few weeks back.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for November 2024 Announced
I've almost bought Ghostwire and Hot wheels a couple of times but never pulled the trigger so definitely happy with this.
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered (PS5) - A Sublime Remaster of a Modern PlayStation Classic
Played it on release day and I'm definitely ready to jump back in now.
Re: Video: Horizon Zero Dawn's PS5 Remaster Is a Massive Upgrade
Looks amazing and I'm definitely upgrading. The only shot I liked more on the original was in the mountain pass with the red sky but could that partly be down to the day and night cycle maybe?
Re: Concord Cost Sony Over $200 Million, And Didn't Make a Single Cent
Yeah Firewalk definitely deserved to be closed.
Re: Concord Cost Sony Over $200 Million, And Didn't Make a Single Cent
@TheTraditional Twisted Metal was just a pitch that got rejected.
Re: PS5, PC Flop Concord Never Returning, Studio Closed Down
Well it was either close them or make them a support studio because it's obvious they couldn't be trusted to make their own game again.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard (PS5) - The Best BioWare Game Since Mass Effect 3
@Titntin I'm happy you like what you see, good for you and I've watched plenty of reviews and videos about this game because I like the old dragon age games but I definitely don't like what I see with this one so I'm going to let that be known just like how you're saying I'm looking forward to it or you're going to give it a chance.
Unfortunately for you, you can't silence people. If you can't handle any criticism of the game then just ignore my comments on articles about this game, that should be simple enough right.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard (PS5) - The Best BioWare Game Since Mass Effect 3
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Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard (PS5) - The Best BioWare Game Since Mass Effect 3
@Titntin The game has really bad writing and dialogue so it's definitely not a 10/10 so for that reason alone anyone giving it a 10 definitely cannot be trusted.
Especially Eurogamer, I've long since lost any faith I had in their reviews.
Re: Cash Rewards Still Unavailable for Millions in PS5, PS4 Rewards Scheme PS Stars
Forgot about this until I saw this article again but I just checked and I've still got a £10 option.
Re: Layoffs Reported at Horizon MMO Developer NCSoft
The 3 games that were cancelled were Battlecrush, Miniverse and Doguri adventure. There was no mention of the Horizon mmo mobile game whatsoever or any indication that its development was actually impacted but I guess that sub heading spices up this article.
Re: PS5, PS4 Fans Are Worried Cash Rewards Have Been Removed from PS Stars
I'm in the UK but I'm only seeing the £10 option so yeah it must be a bug.
Re: PS Showcase Title Towers of Aghasba Enters PS5 Early Access Next Month
Looks like a game you could get lost in but that UK pricing makes no sense.
Re: These Horizon Zero Dawn PS5 Comparisons Are Absolutely Insane
I guess the upgrade isn't available for physical copies until release day because I looked and can't find it but I'm definitely buying it when I get the chance. It looks great and well worth it.
Re: Ubisoft Disbands Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown Team After Poor Sales, Claims Report
Looking at the sales charts for it in the month it released it was 13th in the US according to Circana and 4th in the UK from the Nintendo Life article with almost all the sales being split between Playstation and Nintendo.
Xbox's numbers for it were irrelevant as usual, I guess they just looked at it as a should've been on Gamepass game but I wonder what the PC sales were like, anyway it's a shame if they've been closed, hopefully the talent gets picked up by other studios straight away.
EDIT: looking at the Steam lifetime concurrent it definitely flopped on there as well.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Lara Croft's Remastered Trilogy Raids New Release Jamboree
@Keyblade-Dan Don't be, Christopher Dring said it was a massive hit across Europe and its launch sales are up 140% compared to FighterZ which was the fastest selling Dragonball game in Europe.
Re: Sony Wanted PS5 Exclusivity for Crimson Desert, But Dev Reportedly Declined
Well Sony are trying to increase their market share in China and Korea so maybe they thought this game could help them do that in those markets.
Re: Like It or Not, This Is Why PS5 Pro Doesn't Have a Disc Drive
1st week sales splits between disc and digital for new popular AAA games would interest me more.
Re: Spider-Man 2 Won't Receive Any PS5 Story DLC
Yeah personally I'd prefer they focused on Wolverine and that Venom game if it's actually happening.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Web Swings to PC in January 2025
@Deoxyr1bose Would you have preferred if they waited 2 more days before they announced it? It'll have been 15 months by the time it releases on PC anyway and honestly I'm surprised this one didn't come sooner because of that leaked build from the insomniac hack.
Re: Sublime PS5, PC Remake Silent Hill 2 Tops One Million Sales
@LowDefAl Then I guess you'll be happy to hear physical copies sold out in loads of countries really fast and now there's long wait times for a physical copy while retailers are waiting for new stock.