Sony manager Naomi Matsuoka told investors that „Playstation 5 enters last phase of its lifecycle“, in which Sony will create a new balance between profatibility and revenue. And it would be hard to cut manufacturing costs and therefore prices, much harder than with PS4.
My interpretation: No more price cuts, successor maybe in 2026.
A reduction of the goals, just 2 months before the end of the period, by 16 % seems bad management to me. I know there would roll heads in the company I work at. Of course you can make yourself ambitious goals and miss them, but then you must reduce the goals in the moment you anticipate it. Not February, but October or November.
Sony learned from both the printer industry and Microsoft: Printers are dirt cheap, ink is super expensive. While Microsoft demonstrated how to create a quasi monopoly. I don’t want a world in which PlayStation totally dominates and games are 80+ Euro.
Sony, please! 1. Improve PS Remote Play, with lower latency (especially audio) and no frame-drops. 2. Let me set the headphones volume ingame with L1 and R1 while holding the mute button.
@Khayl: The article’s title is somewhat confusing to me. Firstly I thought that the PS5 will be distinct at some degree. But then I realised that your guideline says to add „on PS5“ on every title for Google‘s sake. You could also write „(coming to PS5)“.
Please post the top 40, as Nintendolife does (https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2024/01/uk-charts-mario-wonder-narrowly-makes-the-top-five-as-new-releases-fight-for-gold). Because I was wondering what happened to TLoUP2R. Spoiler: It went down from 3 to 11.
@Pranwell The Pro is not needed. It’s the developer who decides the target performance of a game for a specific base hardware, and for most third-party developers that’s the PS5 nowadays (and not the Xbox Series S). So if the developer says „I want it to run with 60 fps on PS5“, he or she can design it that way. And many games prove that this is possible even with great graphics, see Avatar as a more recent example. Blame the dev, not the hardware!
@dschons Digital Foundry did tests with a high-end PC running a non-Playstation software (forgot the name), with a Gigabit cable Ethernet connection. And even in this case there were dropped frames and a latency of 80 ms. So the cause for that must lie in the PS5 implementation of Remote Play, the poor Portal seems to be mostly innocent.
@Bezzator That‘s a fair point in my opinion. And still: Also artists have learned their skills from existing pieces of art. They are inspiration for both artists and AI systems. Generating non-generic pieces of art with AI requires new artistical skills, you still need some person as an artist, now with more powerful tools as ever. And, sadly, the most polygonal models and textures are not inspired pieces of art.
@ATaco Sorry, but I don’t really get this outrage. Most games have music generated by synthesizer, and there is no outrage like „Why don’t they order a small orchestra for hand-made music? They must be mean.“. This all reminds me of today‘s technologies which we love and were hated back then. Photography? Kills painters. Records? Kill musicians. Films? Kill actors. TV? Kills cinemas. Video games? Kill board games. AI? Kills artists, actors, voice actors, everyone and everything. But actually, they became separate forms of art and/or entertainment. So in the near future, AI will make things possible we don’t image right now, especially in video games. And we’ll be happy with that.
The difference between most films, series and games: The latter ones often take much longer to consume, and due to interactivity you get a stronger connection to them. So you often want to replay them at one day. And watching them standing in the shelf reminds you of the good (and less good) times you had with them. Physical games will stay alive for a very long time!
@MrGawain And this product strategy is great for their core audience. But production costs are insane, with 200m+, and only heavy hitters justify them. I get why Big Jimbo wanted the GaaS model, as a reaction on this difficult financial situation. Meanwhile, Microsoft also offers games like Pentiment and Hifi Rush, and Nintendo doesn’t know what to do with all that cash they currently earn with Super Mario Bros Wonder. Less „cinematic third-person open world action adventure“ also means „lower production costs“ and „shorter production timespan“.
I think that, besides the handheld gaming preference, the main issue are the „Western“ themes and narratives. And this makes me wonder whether this will be a successful strategy for the future of global PS gaming. We currently see a renewed division of the world in two blocks, with the „Eastern block“ an interesting market for video games. A plumber on a quest to rescue a princess is totally harmless and acceptable even for the most totalitarian regime. But a young transman breaking free of his cult in a post-apocalyptic world without working state authorities?
With the PS5 Pro probably having a hardware solution for AI upscaling and frame generation, it makes very sense to prepare the rendering engines now by upgrading them with similar, already available tech like DLSS 3 and FSR 3.
@evildave333 I don’t like turn-based by myself, but it is a totally valid gameplay mechanic. And if you consider a gameplay mechanic a sort of art (what would be the most appropriate sort of art for a video game in my opinion), then there’s no right or wrong, just more or less enjoyable or self-enlightening.
@BrotherFilmriss That would be huge! This, or Blasphemous 2, or Talos Principle 2. With Blasphemous 2 being one of the favorites of the PS staff members.
That sounds reasonable, sadly. Now the gameplay designers are probably working on the next GoW generation which could differ from the current one quite a lot. In the meantime, the other devs need something to do. And it’s not the first time that a PS Studio is remaking older games for PS5. My guesses: 1) Kratos‘ model will be derived from the latest one, just without beard and younger. 2) A PC release. 3) A new TV series … wait
@ApostateMage You‘re right! For being „only“ a DLC, Phantom Liberty is very meaty, could also be a stand-alone spinoff. Shame that it’s not included in the list here.
@jedinite The numbers I set the link for include UK and GER. This is also the reason why „my“ numbers say 1.7m, while the numbers in the article say 1.0m.
These are strong numbers indeed. VGChartz estimates 1.7m units. But Switch is not too shabby with 500k in its last big Christmas. Xbox meanwhile… And these numbers include UK, the last stronghold for MS on this side of the pond.
Congratulations to Sony! https://www.vgchartz.com/article/459396/europe-hardware-november-2023/
This plan is bad. Sony won’t pay, and 2m is too high for anybody else. In the end, these criminals will publish all documents for free. I hope these people will get caught.
@mariomaster96 This is just sad. Hundreds of hours of fantastic and unique gameplay, worlds and stories (and probably even some insights about human nature) vs. a car model in Fortnite.
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Re: Sony Slashes PS5 Forecast to 21 Million for Fiscal Year
I have found this German article: https://www.golem.de/news/sony-playstation-5-kommt-in-die-letzte-phase-ihres-lebenszyklus-2402-182201.html
Sony manager Naomi Matsuoka told investors that „Playstation 5 enters last phase of its lifecycle“, in which Sony will create a new balance between profatibility and revenue. And it would be hard to cut manufacturing costs and therefore prices, much harder than with PS4.
My interpretation: No more price cuts, successor maybe in 2026.
Re: Sony Slashes PS5 Forecast to 21 Million for Fiscal Year
A reduction of the goals, just 2 months before the end of the period, by 16 % seems bad management to me. I know there would roll heads in the company I work at. Of course you can make yourself ambitious goals and miss them, but then you must reduce the goals in the moment you anticipate it. Not February, but October or November.
Re: PS5 Goes for the Kill with New Discounts in Europe
Sony learned from both the printer industry and Microsoft: Printers are dirt cheap, ink is super expensive. While Microsoft demonstrated how to create a quasi monopoly.
I don’t want a world in which PlayStation totally dominates and games are 80+ Euro.
Re: New PS5 Firmware Beta Improves DualSense Sound, Adds Share Screen Interactions
Sony, please!
1. Improve PS Remote Play, with lower latency (especially audio) and no frame-drops.
2. Let me set the headphones volume ingame with L1 and R1 while holding the mute button.
Re: Abusive Last of Us 2 Fans Allegedly Levelled Death Threats at Abby Actor's Newborn Son
I am torn regarding news like this: On the one side, they bring misbehavior to the public, while they also could encourage people to these actions.
Re: BioShock Creator Ken Levine Says Player Choice Is What Separates Judas on PS5
@Khayl: The article’s title is somewhat confusing to me. Firstly I thought that the PS5 will be distinct at some degree. But then I realised that your guideline says to add „on PS5“ on every title for Google‘s sake. You could also write „(coming to PS5)“.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for February 2024 Announced
@LiamCroft: In your review about Steelrising, you mentioned many bugs and glitches. Do you know whether they are fixed in the meantime?
Re: PS Plus Premium Adds Spider-Man 2 PS5 Trial Next Week
Probably many hardcore PS fans have both PS+ Premium and SM2. So this is a cheap move from SIE. Or is SIE disappointed by a low adoption rate of SM2?
Re: Suicide Squad Already Taken Offline as Glitch Completes the Game for Early Access Players
@Deljo @Tecinthebrain Popular and embarrassing are not exclusive to each other.
Re: Suicide Squad Already Taken Offline as Glitch Completes the Game for Early Access Players
Which game is more embarrassing? This or Palworld?
Re: Fresh State of Play Rumours Running Rampant, Lots of Games Speculated
@thefourfoldroot1 And Astro Bot 1 Remastered as a shadow drop.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Tekken 8 KOs the Competition with Number One Debut
Please post the top 40, as Nintendolife does (https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2024/01/uk-charts-mario-wonder-narrowly-makes-the-top-five-as-new-releases-fight-for-gold). Because I was wondering what happened to TLoUP2R. Spoiler: It went down from 3 to 11.
Re: Rumour: Dragon's Dogma 2 Runs at 30fps on PS5
@Pranwell The Pro is not needed. It’s the developer who decides the target performance of a game for a specific base hardware, and for most third-party developers that’s the PS5 nowadays (and not the Xbox Series S). So if the developer says „I want it to run with 60 fps on PS5“, he or she can design it that way. And many games prove that this is possible even with great graphics, see Avatar as a more recent example. Blame the dev, not the hardware!
Re: Rumour: Dragon's Dogma 2 Runs at 30fps on PS5
@Pranwell I think it’s unlikely that a PS5 Pro will almost double the CPU performance.
Re: The Latest PS5 Firmware Update Is Available to Download Now
@dschons Digital Foundry did tests with a high-end PC running a non-Playstation software (forgot the name), with a Gigabit cable Ethernet connection. And even in this case there were dropped frames and a latency of 80 ms. So the cause for that must lie in the PS5 implementation of Remote Play, the poor Portal seems to be mostly innocent.
Re: The Latest PS5 Firmware Update Is Available to Download Now
Still hoping for improved Remote Play with lower latency and no skipped frames. Would improve the Portal experience a lot.
Re: UK Sales Charts: The Last of Us 2 Remastered Beats Prince of Persia to the Podium
I guess PoP will have longer legs than TLoUP2R, especially with the large share of Switch version sales, see NL:
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2024/01/uk-charts-prince-of-persia-starts-strong-while-another-code-struggles-to-make-a-splash
Re: Genshin Impact Will Soon Look Better Than Ever Before on PS5, PS4
Gradient Tint Rock Off vs. On: I can’t see the difference, sorry.
Re: Square Enix Confirms AI Art Use in PS5, PS4 Exclusive Foamstars
@Bezzator That‘s a fair point in my opinion. And still: Also artists have learned their skills from existing pieces of art. They are inspiration for both artists and AI systems. Generating non-generic pieces of art with AI requires new artistical skills, you still need some person as an artist, now with more powerful tools as ever. And, sadly, the most polygonal models and textures are not inspired pieces of art.
Re: Square Enix Confirms AI Art Use in PS5, PS4 Exclusive Foamstars
@ATaco Sorry, but I don’t really get this outrage. Most games have music generated by synthesizer, and there is no outrage like „Why don’t they order a small orchestra for hand-made music? They must be mean.“. This all reminds me of today‘s technologies which we love and were hated back then. Photography? Kills painters. Records? Kill musicians. Films? Kill actors. TV? Kills cinemas. Video games? Kill board games. AI? Kills artists, actors, voice actors, everyone and everything. But actually, they became separate forms of art and/or entertainment. So in the near future, AI will make things possible we don’t image right now, especially in video games. And we’ll be happy with that.
Re: You Should Get 'Comfortable' with Not Owning Your Games, Suggests Ubisoft Exec
The difference between most films, series and games: The latter ones often take much longer to consume, and due to interactivity you get a stronger connection to them. So you often want to replay them at one day. And watching them standing in the shelf reminds you of the good (and less good) times you had with them.
Physical games will stay alive for a very long time!
Re: PS5 Had Sony's Best Year in Japan for Almost 20 Years
@MrGawain And this product strategy is great for their core audience. But production costs are insane, with 200m+, and only heavy hitters justify them. I get why Big Jimbo wanted the GaaS model, as a reaction on this difficult financial situation. Meanwhile, Microsoft also offers games like Pentiment and Hifi Rush, and Nintendo doesn’t know what to do with all that cash they currently earn with Super Mario Bros Wonder. Less „cinematic third-person open world action adventure“ also means „lower production costs“ and „shorter production timespan“.
Re: PS5 Had Sony's Best Year in Japan for Almost 20 Years
@ChrisDeku This explanation was really insightful for me. Thank you!
Re: PS5 Had Sony's Best Year in Japan for Almost 20 Years
@K1LLEGAL They chose „8k“ instead, which is less true.
Re: PS5 Had Sony's Best Year in Japan for Almost 20 Years
I think that, besides the handheld gaming preference, the main issue are the „Western“ themes and narratives. And this makes me wonder whether this will be a successful strategy for the future of global PS gaming. We currently see a renewed division of the world in two blocks, with the „Eastern block“ an interesting market for video games. A plumber on a quest to rescue a princess is totally harmless and acceptable even for the most totalitarian regime. But a young transman breaking free of his cult in a post-apocalyptic world without working state authorities?
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 the Most-Nominated Game at This Year's DICE Awards
The category „Outstanding Achievement in Game Design“ seems to be the real GotY category.
Re: 14 Games on the Way to PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Week
@LordOfTurnips Indeed, mouths full, but filling those mouths wasn’t for free for them.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West on PC Getting Gorgeous DLSS 3 Support
With the PS5 Pro probably having a hardware solution for AI upscaling and frame generation, it makes very sense to prepare the rendering engines now by upgrading them with similar, already available tech like DLSS 3 and FSR 3.
Re: 30 PS5, PS4 Indie Games to Watch Out for in 2024
Why is here no love for Thank Goodness You’re Here? It looks as silly and brilliant as Untitled Goose Game, and that won everybody’s hearts.
Re: Game of the Year: #2 - Baldur's Gate 3
@evildave333 I don’t like turn-based by myself, but it is a totally valid gameplay mechanic. And if you consider a gameplay mechanic a sort of art (what would be the most appropriate sort of art for a video game in my opinion), then there’s no right or wrong, just more or less enjoyable or self-enlightening.
Re: Game of the Year: Best PS5, PS4 Puzzle Game of 2023
I heard only very good things about Talos 2.
Re: Game of the Year: #2 - Baldur's Gate 3
See what is #1 for Jamie and Simon:
Jamie: https://www.pushsquare.com/features/game-of-the-year-jamies-top-5-ps5-ps4-games-of-2023
Simon:
https://www.pushsquare.com/features/game-of-the-year-simons-top-5-ps5-ps4-games-of-2023
Any chances for the overall win?
Re: Game of the Year: #2 - Baldur's Gate 3
„Good evening from Belgrade! Fantastic show! 12 points from Serbia go to … Montenegro! Congratulations!“
Re: Game of the Year: #2 - Baldur's Gate 3
@BrotherFilmriss That would be huge! This, or Blasphemous 2, or Talos Principle 2. With Blasphemous 2 being one of the favorites of the PS staff members.
Re: Game of the Year: #2 - Baldur's Gate 3
@Luvstagrind PushSquare is basically the Inofficial PlayStation Blog.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for January 2024?
@Deoxyr1bose Exactly
Re: God of War Trilogy PS5 Remaster Rumours Surface from Suspect Source
That sounds reasonable, sadly. Now the gameplay designers are probably working on the next GoW generation which could differ from the current one quite a lot. In the meantime, the other devs need something to do. And it’s not the first time that a PS Studio is remaking older games for PS5. My guesses:
1) Kratos‘ model will be derived from the latest one, just without beard and younger.
2) A PC release.
3) A new TV series … wait
Re: Game of the Year: Best PS5, PS4 Indie Game of 2023
Shadow Gambit gets some love, nice!
Re: Game of the Year: #8 - Dead Space
@Matter No, it will be those spiders, because.
Re: Game of the Year: Best PS5, PS4 Open World Game of 2023
@ApostateMage You‘re right! For being „only“ a DLC, Phantom Liberty is very meaty, could also be a stand-alone spinoff. Shame that it’s not included in the list here.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Wins Big in PS Blog Awards, Including PS5 Game of the Year
Probably one of only a few GotY votings in which Spidey is a big winner, while BG3 is not.
Re: Site News: Our Game of the Year Goodness Gets Underway from Today
A fantastic year for gaming indead, definitely more Smeagol than Gollum.
Re: PS5 Sales Absolutely Explode in Europe as Sony Single-Handedly Drives Industry Up
@jedinite The numbers I set the link for include UK and GER. This is also the reason why „my“ numbers say 1.7m, while the numbers in the article say 1.0m.
Re: PS5 Sales Absolutely Explode in Europe as Sony Single-Handedly Drives Industry Up
These are strong numbers indeed. VGChartz estimates 1.7m units. But Switch is not too shabby with 500k in its last big Christmas. Xbox meanwhile… And these numbers include UK, the last stronghold for MS on this side of the pond.
Congratulations to Sony!
https://www.vgchartz.com/article/459396/europe-hardware-november-2023/
Re: Hackers Breach Insomniac Games, Marvel's Wolverine Details and Employee Data Up for Ransom
This plan is bad. Sony won’t pay, and 2m is too high for anybody else. In the end, these criminals will publish all documents for free. I hope these people will get caught.
Re: PS5 Accounted for Almost Half of All Console Sales in the UK Last Month
Interesting picture in the title! Should it indicate that the PS5 console is still heavily subsidized to gain market share?
Re: Fortnite Fans Can't Believe the Price of the Game's New PS5, PS4 Microtransactions
@mariomaster96 This is just sad. Hundreds of hours of fantastic and unique gameplay, worlds and stories (and probably even some insights about human nature) vs. a car model in Fortnite.
Re: Feature: The Results of Our Game Awards 2023 Predictions Quiz Are In
11 out of 20 is totally random if there are only two answers given. So the readers are as clever as a monkey casting dice.
Re: Incredible PS1-Themed PS5 Console Spotted at Jim Ryan's Farewell Party
@Splat It’s the same as with Reggie, who got a VirtualBoy with all released games.
Re: Rumour: Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons May Be Getting the Remake Treatment
Looking forward to bold statements from Josef Fares on stage with The Geoff.