„Acclaimed PS5 Platformer Astro Bot Really Couldn't Be Selling Any Better“
This is a false statement. It sales numbers are not limited by physical copies, so of course it could sell better. In theory, but also in practice.
Why has this game not yet shifted 5 million copies, i.e. Super Mario territory? I didn’t buy it yet, because I know that it’s high price will reduce in a not too far future by a significant amount. Zelda Echoes of Wisdom meanwhile: day one.
Mark Zuckerberg became father in 2015, 2017 and 2023. And even his days only have 24 hours. So how can this man run Meta, play Civ VI in high intensity and have a fulfilling family life?
@nomither6 Fully agree! People complain about not having Switch themes, but its UI is clear and quick, and the ads in the „unlock screen“ are both effective and non-annoying.
Not always, but in general: Sony cares about what it wants. Nintendo cares about what its customers want.
And the delay of AC:S might sound good, but it’s no guarantee for a high degree of polish. It depends on the working culture and qualities of heads: If they are poor, then the devs are pushed to integrate new stuff which was skipped before, because „you have plenty of time now“. And the original goal, to polish the game with the existing content, gets lost.
I don’t believe in a good working culture at these Ubi studios.
PSVR2 is kept alive by third parties, therefore my support for Metro, Midnight Walk and Hitman. And Ghost 2 looks brilliant! Where can I get permission for four checks?
@themightyant Being skeptical is fine. But 400m is definitely possible!
If you outsource a big chunk, with the basis still being a mess after several years, and the boss says that in 18 months it has to be the best product Sony has ever made, then these outsourcing studios could demand EVERY price, and they most certainly did. These external studio owners are rich people now!
@UltimateOtaku91 Helldivers 2 didn’t fail because it is a consistent product with a soul, and it is a tiny bit edgy.
Concord meanwhile is a streamlined copycat, which never received a soul, because of the „toxic positivity“ and because several studios worked on it in parallel, with limited coordination, so that the single pieces don’t form a coherent whole.
People love Sony games for being the perfect blend of very high production value, artistic expression, and sheer fun. And what of this deliveres Concord?
Dear Sony, just release you games day and date on PC and PS5, with the risk that people will prefer playing it on their next Xbox (which is assumed to be some kind of PC). Or skip PC at all.
The length and bloat of this game seem to be the real peoblems. People want to fight hordes after 13 hours in the game, not 30 hours.
So, what this game really needs is a „non-director’s cut“. This, DualSense support and slightly improved graphics (higher LoD, higher resolution, better texture filtering), and people will buy it full price!
@MrPeanutbutterz I couldn‘t tell BY THE PRICE. My question is: Are PS Plus discounts generally better than standard discounts? My thesis: They aren‘t. A game for originally e.g. 40 £ would be 24 £ with PS Plus discount after 12 months, then 40 £ back again, then 24 £ without PS Plus two months later etc. And I ask myself: What benefits does a publisher have if choosing the PS Plus discount model compared to the standard discount model?
@dskatter You‘re right, I was in a bad mood and used this as a channel.
What I wanted to say: I couldn’t tell you by the prices which offers require PS Plus and which won’t. Do the publishers get a bigger share of the price from Sony when it is a PS Plus exclusive offer? Or why do they do this?
These (for me) unremarkable offers in combination with unremarkable monthly „free“ games and the ability to play non-F2F games online make it harder and harder to justify the rising PS Plus subscription price.
The difference is tremendous, but mainly because SE did a bad job with the original version.
FF7R in performance mode has a similar (typically higher) resolution and the same framerate as Returnal (which is fixed 1080p60). Both are UE4 games, based on late, mature versions of the UE4 SDK.
But why does Returnal look so much sharper and better than FF7R on base PS5?
@Frmknst This „base PS5 not yet fully utilized“ is just wrong, and you know it. There are plenty of games (also from Sony, e.g. SM2) which uses the CPU and the memory system effectively and get a lot out of the boxes, while other games like BMW are certainly showing the system‘s limits.
Please stop telling this story. It sounds nice, but it just isn’t true.
The comparisons with the PS3 launch model are a bit flawed:
You could watch Blurays for the first time, and you haven’t had a cheaper PS3 you wanted to replace. Now, almost everyone interested in PS5 has already got one, the base model was not cheap either, and most people usually have little use for two consoles of the same system (guys with holiday cottages like this EA guy aside).
And while I get the price based on the high manufacturing costs: Making the PS5 Pro was a mistake!
@Gaia093 I guess they want to get rid of the term „Showcase“ entirely and replace it with the catchier „State of Play“ for all regular video formats. „Showcase“ is so unspecific, I wouldn’t be surprised to see an „Tesla Showcase“ or an „Xiaomi Showcase“, and even Nintendo uses it for its „Partner Showcase“. And calling it all „State of Play“ allows for positive surprises (and disappointments).
@BrettAwesome ??? I know that the CPU will be the limit. And with „will NOT notice“ I meant that they will not notice that it’s fake 60 fps, they will deem it for real 60 fps.
Meaningful additions. I’m still hoping for an improved volume control for DualSense-attached headphones (R1/L1 to increase/decrease while holding the mute button). And a better Remote Play quality would also be nice.
@The_Wailing_Doom Yes, great prospect for Sony: digital-only (with PS6) means no share for retailers and higher average game prices, and direct hardware sales help them both with higher profits and less dependency on retailers, see Apple. And other premium hardware companies (Dyson) will follow. The end of classical electronics retailers?
For me it‘s not about the price, but the lack of a version with an already installed disk drive. When I buy a premium machine, I don‘t want to buy and attach a disk drive, and other people are maybe not even capable of performing that.
Ergo: I don’t want to be a Pro to get a real Pro-version of the PS5 Pro.
I will buy it. But my backlog is just too big to pay full-price when on Black Friday I will get it 25% off (at least I hope so). And to be clear: I do it that way because Sony allows me so. If they would adopt the Nintendo model of almost no discount in the first two years, then it would be day one for me.
„Small game“. I‘ve started DG and found it pretty tedious. Then I read that the real fun starts when you can battle these giant hordes this game is famous for, after 30 hours or so. Well, you have probably achieved Platinum in Astro in less then 30 hours. But it is fun from the first to the last second. If a long playtime is what Garvin sees as a requirement for a great game, I get why SIE didn’t allow development for DG2.
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Re: Acclaimed PS5 Platformer Astro Bot Really Couldn't Be Selling Any Better
„Acclaimed PS5 Platformer Astro Bot Really Couldn't Be Selling Any Better“
This is a false statement. It sales numbers are not limited by physical copies, so of course it could sell better. In theory, but also in practice.
Why has this game not yet shifted 5 million copies, i.e. Super Mario territory? I didn’t buy it yet, because I know that it’s high price will reduce in a not too far future by a significant amount. Zelda Echoes of Wisdom meanwhile: day one.
Re: Mark Zuckerberg Claims to Be a Grandmaster-Level Civilization Player
@beardybot THAT‘s why the Metaverse is such a joke.
Re: Mark Zuckerberg Claims to Be a Grandmaster-Level Civilization Player
Mark Zuckerberg became father in 2015, 2017 and 2023. And even his days only have 24 hours. So how can this man run Meta, play Civ VI in high intensity and have a fulfilling family life?
Re: Dragon Age Series Ditches Those Disgusting Spiders in The Veilguard
I have a phobia („suffering“ would be too drastic), and I know the best cure is cognitive behaviour therapy.
So, make this game a cure and flood it with spiders!
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for October 2024?
@Samsteez We talk about Sony in the year of the Lord and Savior 2024. Expectation management helps to remain a happy man.
Re: Random: God of War Ragnarok PC Mod Removes Thousands of 'Helpful' Dialogue Lines
This permanent talking in GoW was the main reason for me to skip Ragnarök.
Re: Gran Turismo 7 PS5, PS4 Update 1.52 Adds Two Sports Cars and a Very Boxy Van
@Czar_Khastik You’re a man of principles, I like that.
Re: Microsoft Is Investigating Why Devs Are Prioritising PS5 Over Xbox
Maybe because Xbox is primarily a thing in the US, while PS has appeal worldwide?
Re: Ever-Evolving, Live Service Experiences Like Fortnite Are 'the Future of Gaming'
@Medic_alert Yes, I‘ll rather stuck in the past.
Re: Bickering Begins Over PS5 Pro's Inability to Sell Out
A typical non-article.
Re: Final Fantasy 16 Receives Permanent Price Cut on PS5 as Complete Edition Launches
That‘s a fair move from SE (meanwhile H:ZD pricing…).
Re: PS5 Firmware Update Annoys with Unwanted Deluge of Ads, News Feed
@nomither6 Fully agree! People complain about not having Switch themes, but its UI is clear and quick, and the ads in the „unlock screen“ are both effective and non-annoying.
Not always, but in general:
Sony cares about what it wants.
Nintendo cares about what its customers want.
Re: Author Pulls PC God of War Ragnarok PSN Mod, Fearful of Sony's Wrath
Sony will realise that PC gamers won’t accept PSN. PSN and platforms are under Japanese lead, so there‘s hope for reasonable thinking and action.
Re: Hideo Kojima's Dream of Breaking into Hollywood Is Nearly a Reality
It‘s a thin line between art and nonsense.
Re: Fans Appear to Be Coming Around to PS5 Pro
Let‘s see how it will turn out. I‘m still not convinced that the PS5 Pro will be a success:
At this point, everyone with high interest in a PS5 has got one, and many not before 2022 due to Covid manufacturing problems.
So the Pro is mainly an upgrade at a very high price, not like the PS4 Pro, which was the first PS4 for many people, at a reasonable price.
Re: Star Wars Outlaws' Rescue Roadmap Provides a Snapshot of Modern PS5 Gaming
And the delay of AC:S might sound good, but it’s no guarantee for a high degree of polish. It depends on the working culture and qualities of heads: If they are poor, then the devs are pushed to integrate new stuff which was skipped before, because „you have plenty of time now“. And the original goal, to polish the game with the existing content, gets lost.
I don’t believe in a good working culture at these Ubi studios.
Re: Eve's Outfits Reveal Even More in Surprise Stellar Blade Update on PS5
@Czar_Khastik I always look for your comments, you make my day.
Re: Talking Point: What Was Your Favourite PS5 Game from State of Play September 2024?
@NeonMullet Thanks, haven’t heard of Max Mustard, has decent reviews on Quest 3, I’m definitely interested.
Hitman looks like a lot of silly fun, with it’s sandbox mechanics and wild objects you can interact with.
Re: Talking Point: What Was Your Favourite PS5 Game from State of Play September 2024?
PSVR2 is kept alive by third parties, therefore my support for Metro, Midnight Walk and Hitman. And Ghost 2 looks brilliant! Where can I get permission for four checks?
Re: Sony Appears to Leak Many Games from State of Play
Great, a 30 min State of Play with 25 min of already available games.
If you add the rumored remasters of HZD, DG and SR1+2, then what are the real new gaming experiences here?
Re: Frostpunk 2 Dev Recoups Entire Marketing, Production Budget in Three Days
Great message that the AA games market is not only alive but thriving. I hope that some companies will disarm and move from AAA to AA.
Re: Rumour: Concord Cost $400 Million, Sony Believed It Was the 'Future of PlayStation'
@themightyant Being skeptical is fine. But 400m is definitely possible!
If you outsource a big chunk, with the basis still being a mess after several years, and the boss says that in 18 months it has to be the best product Sony has ever made, then these outsourcing studios could demand EVERY price, and they most certainly did.
These external studio owners are rich people now!
Re: Rumour: Concord Cost $400 Million, Sony Believed It Was the 'Future of PlayStation'
@UltimateOtaku91 Helldivers 2 didn’t fail because it is a consistent product with a soul, and it is a tiny bit edgy.
Concord meanwhile is a streamlined copycat, which never received a soul, because of the „toxic positivity“ and because several studios worked on it in parallel, with limited coordination, so that the single pieces don’t form a coherent whole.
People love Sony games for being the perfect blend of very high production value, artistic expression, and sheer fun. And what of this deliveres Concord?
Re: Rumour: Concord Cost $400 Million, Sony Believed It Was the 'Future of PlayStation'
But will Hermen Hulst renounce his yearly bonus?
Re: The Novelty of PlayStation's PC Ports Does Appear to Be Dampening
Dear Sony, just release you games day and date on PC and PS5, with the risk that people will prefer playing it on their next Xbox (which is assumed to be some kind of PC). Or skip PC at all.
You current tactic is neither fish nor fowl.
Re: PS5 Pro Playable at Tokyo Game Show as Sony Announces Full Lineup
Where are those „Hotly anticipated games at Sony's booth“?
Re: Reaction: Why There Are So Many Unnecessary PS5 Remasters for Games That Don't Need Them
Where is the Bloodborne tv show when you need it?
Re: Rumour: Days Gone PS5 Remaster Speculation Starts to Spread
The length and bloat of this game seem to be the real peoblems. People want to fight hordes after 13 hours in the game, not 30 hours.
So, what this game really needs is a „non-director’s cut“. This, DualSense support and slightly improved graphics (higher LoD, higher resolution, better texture filtering), and people will buy it full price!
Re: Jaw-Dropping 30th Anniversary PS5 Pro Console and Accessories Will Bankrupt You
The prices will create the biggest ***** in PS history, and the prices on eBay even more.
Re: Jaw-Dropping 30th Anniversary PS5 Pro Console and Accessories Will Bankrupt You
@IceClimbersMain 1200 looks more likely to me.
Re: PS Plus Members Get Hundreds of PS5, PS4 Discounts in New PS Store Sale
@MrPeanutbutterz I couldn‘t tell BY THE PRICE. My question is: Are PS Plus discounts generally better than standard discounts? My thesis: They aren‘t. A game for originally e.g. 40 £ would be 24 £ with PS Plus discount after 12 months, then 40 £ back again, then 24 £ without PS Plus two months later etc.
And I ask myself: What benefits does a publisher have if choosing the PS Plus discount model compared to the standard discount model?
Re: PS Plus Members Get Hundreds of PS5, PS4 Discounts in New PS Store Sale
@ChrisDeku I know
Re: PS Plus Members Get Hundreds of PS5, PS4 Discounts in New PS Store Sale
@dskatter You‘re right, I was in a bad mood and used this as a channel.
What I wanted to say: I couldn’t tell you by the prices which offers require PS Plus and which won’t. Do the publishers get a bigger share of the price from Sony when it is a PS Plus exclusive offer? Or why do they do this?
These (for me) unremarkable offers in combination with unremarkable monthly „free“ games and the ability to play non-F2F games online make it harder and harder to justify the rising PS Plus subscription price.
Re: PS Plus Members Get Hundreds of PS5, PS4 Discounts in New PS Store Sale
And what will I do when my PS Plus subscription expires on Chrismas? I will buy and enjoy my physical games as I did before.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth's Huge PS5 Pro Enhancements Are a 'Vast Improvement'
The difference is tremendous, but mainly because SE did a bad job with the original version.
FF7R in performance mode has a similar (typically higher) resolution and the same framerate as Returnal (which is fixed 1080p60). Both are UE4 games, based on late, mature versions of the UE4 SDK.
But why does Returnal look so much sharper and better than FF7R on base PS5?
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn's PS5, PC Remaster Is Very Much the Real Deal
@PaperAlien And even that wouldn’t be true, with a PC version releasing in the presumably same time window.
Re: Vince Zampella Defends PS5 Pro Price, Says 'It's Actually Not That Bad'
@Frmknst This „base PS5 not yet fully utilized“ is just wrong, and you know it. There are plenty of games (also from Sony, e.g. SM2) which uses the CPU and the memory system effectively and get a lot out of the boxes, while other games like BMW are certainly showing the system‘s limits.
Please stop telling this story. It sounds nice, but it just isn’t true.
Re: Vince Zampella Defends PS5 Pro Price, Says 'It's Actually Not That Bad'
The comparisons with the PS3 launch model are a bit flawed:
You could watch Blurays for the first time, and you haven’t had a cheaper PS3 you wanted to replace. Now, almost everyone interested in PS5 has already got one, the base model was not cheap either, and most people usually have little use for two consoles of the same system (guys with holiday cottages like this EA guy aside).
And while I get the price based on the high manufacturing costs: Making the PS5 Pro was a mistake!
Re: State of Play Rumoured for This Month As Sony Looks Set to Skip PS Showcase in 2024
@Gaia093 I guess they want to get rid of the term „Showcase“ entirely and replace it with the catchier „State of Play“ for all regular video formats.
„Showcase“ is so unspecific, I wouldn’t be surprised to see an „Tesla Showcase“ or an „Xiaomi Showcase“, and even Nintendo uses it for its „Partner Showcase“.
And calling it all „State of Play“ allows for positive surprises (and disappointments).
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Astro Bot?
This is one of those games which come every three to five years and REALLY feel like a 10.
Re: PS5 Pro Probably Won't Run GTA 6 at 4K 60FPS, Tech Expert Claims
@BrettAwesome ??? I know that the CPU will be the limit. And with „will NOT notice“ I meant that they will not notice that it’s fake 60 fps, they will deem it for real 60 fps.
Re: Astro Bot PS5 Sales Trending Ahead of Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart in the UK
My backlog is too long to buy at full price.
Re: PS5 Pro Probably Won't Run GTA 6 at 4K 60FPS, Tech Expert Claims
GTA 6 will probably get a 60 fps mode with FSR3 frame generation, the same 60 fps mode as Black Myth: Wukong has. And most players will NOT notice.
Re: Latest PS5 Firmware Adds Welcome Hub, Adaptive Controller Charging, Much More
Meaningful additions. I’m still hoping for an improved volume control for DualSense-attached headphones (R1/L1 to increase/decrease while holding the mute button). And a better Remote Play quality would also be nice.
Re: Lack of Competition from Xbox Partly Why PS5 Pro Is $700, Says Analyst
Game Pass was the reason why we got the PS Plus Collection. The PS5 is my first PlayStation, so I‘ve benefited a lot. Thank you, Microsoft!
Re: PS5 Pro Pre-Orders Will Be Exclusive to PS Direct for Two Weeks
@The_Wailing_Doom Yes, great prospect for Sony: digital-only (with PS6) means no share for retailers and higher average game prices, and direct hardware sales help them both with higher profits and less dependency on retailers, see Apple. And other premium hardware companies (Dyson) will follow.
The end of classical electronics retailers?
Re: Talking Point: Is PS5 Pro Way Too Expensive?
For me it‘s not about the price, but the lack of a version with an already installed disk drive. When I buy a premium machine, I don‘t want to buy and attach a disk drive, and other people are maybe not even capable of performing that.
Ergo: I don’t want to be a Pro to get a real Pro-version of the PS5 Pro.
Re: Astro Bot PS5 Sales 'Aren't Huge' in UK, But There's Still Hope
I will buy it. But my backlog is just too big to pay full-price when on Black Friday I will get it 25% off (at least I hope so).
And to be clear: I do it that way because Sony allows me so. If they would adopt the Nintendo model of almost no discount in the first two years, then it would be day one for me.
Re: PS5 Pro Showcase Set for Tomorrow, Hosted by Mark Cerny
I don’t know what will bore me more: this or the Apple presentation.
Re: Days Gone Director Roasts 'Small Game' Astro Bot PS5 for Deacon St John Cameo
„Small game“. I‘ve started DG and found it pretty tedious. Then I read that the real fun starts when you can battle these giant hordes this game is famous for, after 30 hours or so.
Well, you have probably achieved Platinum in Astro in less then 30 hours. But it is fun from the first to the last second. If a long playtime is what Garvin sees as a requirement for a great game, I get why SIE didn’t allow development for DG2.