Here's the thing, assuming it's ten times as expensive as a regular skin, if only 10% of the regular spenders buy it, then it's the same profit for them as releasing a regular skin. If more people buy it, it's more profitable than a regular skin.
@itsfoz Show a trailer now, then people expect another one in two months, and another one before release, and a launch trailer, and more.
It's a sequel, so you know more or less what to expect. I assume they just don't want to spoil too much, so why reveal stuff now, when you can also wait until it's a month or two away from release?
@themightyant wasn't even underdelivering; he straight up said there was multiplayer in the game when there wasn't. It was just lies at that point lol.
@JJ2 If you mean that it may look a little gamified, I agree. They need to understand that finding a secret passage on your own is ''better gameplay'' than killing 50 trolls with the same old spell. Not every game needs to be combat heavy to be enjoyable. But it's generally the easiest form of gameplay to implement.
I've encountered an invisible object in the overworld, even arrows get stuck in it. Don't know if it's a giant rock with Stalker powers or just a glitch, but I'm going to find out!
@MattBoothDev I don't know. Maybe when the servers are shut down twenty years from now, I can still play it on my PS5 without having to download anything.
@MattBoothDev It is though, isn't it? You don't get the PS5 version on the PS4 disc. You just get the PS4 version. If you want to play the PS5 version (higher resolution, frame rate, etc.) you need to download the patch.
And I wasn't planning on playing the PS4 version when I have a PS5.
The 'problem' with this game is that it looks too detailed. It's very difficult to recognise the different pieces, so you have to hover over them to see what they are. I wish it was a little more stylised. Bigger pieces, with a smaller base, maybe some colour as well. They all look the same.
@Royalblues If previous games are to go by, there will be a disc-1 and disc-2. Insert the first disc and install those files, then it'll tell you to insert the second one and install the rest of the game. You also use the second one to play the game (like any other game).
@MatthewJP In all fairness, the discs and packaging isn't expensive at all, especially in bulk. Freight costs are also cheaper than you'd expect. And people forget that servers also cost money to keep up and running. I'd love to get the actual number on it one day though, but I don't the difference is more than a few dollars at most.
@PenguinL It's not that expensive TBH. Generally a 120 piece set goes on sale for about $120 ($0.10 a piece is the general rule). Licensed sets can be more expensive. So all things considered, it's a pretty good deal.
@Shepherd_Tallon @Apfelschteiner It's just software, so it could even come as an update after launch if they don't get the deal done in time. I don't expect this will cause any delay of the hardware.
@Arcnail I think they made like 300-500 million profit on MTX annually. This deal pays itself in 10 years. If they can get them to develop more than just Destiny, possibly sooner. I think that's how they're looking at it. Long term strategy. MS plonked 70 billion down for Activision, that's more than Xbox made in profits throughout its 20 year life.
@thefourfoldroot Microsoft just spent more on a single acquisition than they've made in revenue with their Xbox division throughout the last 20 years. They don't care about money lol. Buy up everything and spoil your customers until there's no competition left.
@BeerIsAwesome Kinda true, but remember that MLB isn't really Sony's property. They pay for the license, and MLB demands the game to be cross-play. If it wasn't for them, it bet you it would've been a PS exclusive still.
@Alduin That kind of mentality will eventually lead to cheaper (i.e. less qualitive) games. If people refuse to buy games full price because of some sub that offers it to you for a dime, then don't expect large AAA games to be the norm in the future. That mindset will favour quantity over quality. You get what you pay for.
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Re: Would You Pay $45 for an Overwatch 2 Character Skin? Blizzard's Curious to Know
Here's the thing, assuming it's ten times as expensive as a regular skin, if only 10% of the regular spenders buy it, then it's the same profit for them as releasing a regular skin. If more people buy it, it's more profitable than a regular skin.
Re: NieR: Automata Community Left 'in Shambles' After Discovery of 'Impossible' Door
@Grimwood Definitely!
Re: NieR: Automata Community Left 'in Shambles' After Discovery of 'Impossible' Door
If I was a game dev I'd definitely add in a secret stage with a one in a million chance of accessing it. Let the community go nuts.
Re: Sony Studio Firesprite Lets Colossal Liverpool Office
@get2sammyb Never heard of that one! It looks like the title is half finished.
Sony Studio Firesprite Lets Colossal Liverpool Office...
...go bankrupt?
...develop a new IP???
So many questions lol.
Re: Hideo Kojima Reportedly Developing a Horror Game Named Overdose
This could be the first Horror/Strand type game!
Made by Hideo Kojima
Re: PSVR2's Horizon Call of the Mountain Massively Upgraded in New Teaser
@Shepherd_Tallon My first VR game was Astro Bot, everything that came after was just disappointing lol.
Re: Sony Pictures Eyes Director Neill Blomkamp to Steer Gran Turismo Movie
@MattBoothDev I imagine it's going to be like a live action Pixar's Cars.
I don't care what anyone else says, that's what it needs to be.
Re: Sony Confirms Horizon, God of War, and Gran Turismo TV Shows in Development
@Atreus97 I wonder who they'll cast as Kratos. Christopher Judge makes a lot of sense, but it'll probably be The Rock or something like that LMAO.
Re: The Last of Us PS5 Remake Allegedly a Major Holiday Release
@Snake_V5 FIFA 21 remake
Re: Reminder: Last Chance to Add Persona 5 to Your Library Through PS Plus Collection
Can you use the app to claim PS+ collection games?
Re: Poll: When Do You Think God of War Ragnarok Will Release?
Sony doesn't really do holiday games, so I think late August to early October.
Re: God of War Ragnarok Still 'Coming This Year', Says Dev
@itsfoz Show a trailer now, then people expect another one in two months, and another one before release, and a launch trailer, and more.
It's a sequel, so you know more or less what to expect. I assume they just don't want to spoil too much, so why reveal stuff now, when you can also wait until it's a month or two away from release?
Re: Pretty Puzzler LEGO Builder's Journey Ventures to PS5, PS4
Looks lovely. But since you can beat it in 2 hours, I'll wait for a discount.
Re: Hello Games' Next Project Is Sounding Super Ambitious
@themightyant wasn't even underdelivering; he straight up said there was multiplayer in the game when there wasn't. It was just lies at that point lol.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Dev Reassures Fans That Expansions Are in the Works
Played the game for a couple of hours, but I wasn't really impressed. I may get it one day when it's on sale, but not right now.
Re: PSVR2 Games, Haven Studio All Using Unreal Engine 5
@NomNom Cause then you can put more on a picture. And we all know more = better.
Re: New Tomb Raider Game Confirmed, Uses Unreal Engine 5
First one was good, Rise was more of the same, and Shadow was just boring. I stopped playing halfway through.
Re: PS5's DualSense Dubbed the Best Controller of All Time in Public Vote
I expect controllers to get better over time, so this is no surprise. If the DualSense was "worse" than the DS4 we would've had a problem.
Re: Rumour: PS Plus PS5, PS4 Games for April 2022 Leaked Early
Wasn't SpongeBob pretty decent? I remember this game on the GameCube. It's "free" anyway.
Re: Sony Extremely Deliberate with PSVR2's Design, Immersion Goes Beyond Resolution
@Fragile I offer $700 and a kidney.
Re: Cutting-Edge PSVR2 Presentations Scheduled for GDC
I completely missed the headset reveal. What.
Re: New Witcher Game Announced, Developed on Unreal Engine 5
@Falkirk4life At launch?
Re: New Witcher Game Announced, Developed on Unreal Engine 5
@RBMango Witcher 3 launched broken. Thronebreaker was broken and was literally unplayable for some (including me), Cyberpunk 2077 was a giant mess.
CP2077 wasn't the exception unfortunately. I've learned my lesson.
Re: Gallery: Hogwarts Legacy PS5, PS4 Screenshots Reveal a Wonderful Wizarding World
@JJ2 If you mean that it may look a little gamified, I agree. They need to understand that finding a secret passage on your own is ''better gameplay'' than killing 50 trolls with the same old spell. Not every game needs to be combat heavy to be enjoyable. But it's generally the easiest form of gameplay to implement.
Re: The Quarry Is a $70 PS5 Title from Supermassive Games
Next gen graphics with last gen's animations.
Re: Soapbox: It's Okay to Enjoy Elden Ring and Horizon Forbidden West
Err, no it's not. Pick one and fight. Don't be such babies.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West's PS5, PS4 Visual Issues a High Priority, Patch Incoming ASAP
I've encountered an invisible object in the overworld, even arrows get stuck in it. Don't know if it's a giant rock with Stalker powers or just a glitch, but I'm going to find out!
Re: In the UK, 70% of Boxed Horizon Forbidden West Buyers Paid More Than They Needed To
@MattBoothDev I don't know. Maybe when the servers are shut down twenty years from now, I can still play it on my PS5 without having to download anything.
Re: In the UK, 70% of Boxed Horizon Forbidden West Buyers Paid More Than They Needed To
@MattBoothDev You don't have to install the day one patch though. The game is perfectly playable without it.
Re: In the UK, 70% of Boxed Horizon Forbidden West Buyers Paid More Than They Needed To
@MattBoothDev Oh well, either way you have to download something, that was my point.
Re: In the UK, 70% of Boxed Horizon Forbidden West Buyers Paid More Than They Needed To
@MattBoothDev It is though, isn't it? You don't get the PS5 version on the PS4 disc. You just get the PS4 version. If you want to play the PS5 version (higher resolution, frame rate, etc.) you need to download the patch.
And I wasn't planning on playing the PS4 version when I have a PS5.
Re: In the UK, 70% of Boxed Horizon Forbidden West Buyers Paid More Than They Needed To
Bought the PS5 version so that I don't have to rely on a patch to play the PS5 version, simple as that.
It's not really the same game. May as well buy digital then, but that's my point, I just want the physical PS5 version.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Is Getting Review Bombed on PS5, PS4 for No Reason
@TheRedComet I just play the game to murder giant robot dinosaurs.
Re: Hands On: Don't Sleep on Machine Strike, Horizon Forbidden West's Chess-Like Board Game
The 'problem' with this game is that it looks too detailed. It's very difficult to recognise the different pieces, so you have to hover over them to see what they are. I wish it was a little more stylised. Bigger pieces, with a smaller base, maybe some colour as well. They all look the same.
Re: Gran Turismo 7 Will Require Two Blu-ray Discs on PS4, Just One on PS5
@Royalblues If previous games are to go by, there will be a disc-1 and disc-2. Insert the first disc and install those files, then it'll tell you to insert the second one and install the rest of the game. You also use the second one to play the game (like any other game).
Re: Gran Turismo 7 Will Require Two Blu-ray Discs on PS4, Just One on PS5
@MatthewJP In all fairness, the discs and packaging isn't expensive at all, especially in bulk. Freight costs are also cheaper than you'd expect. And people forget that servers also cost money to keep up and running. I'd love to get the actual number on it one day though, but I don't the difference is more than a few dollars at most.
Re: Horizon's Tallneck Is Getting Its Very Own LEGO Set
@PenguinL It's not that expensive TBH. Generally a 120 piece set goes on sale for about $120 ($0.10 a piece is the general rule). Licensed sets can be more expensive. So all things considered, it's a pretty good deal.
Re: PSVR2 Eye-Tracking Tech Still in the Negotiation Phase
@Shepherd_Tallon @Apfelschteiner It's just software, so it could even come as an update after launch if they don't get the deal done in time. I don't expect this will cause any delay of the hardware.
Re: Remember to Buy Horizon Forbidden West on PS4, And Not PS5
Bought the PS5 box, and don't really care. Won't play it on PS4 anyway.
Re: Sony 'Vastly Overpaid' in 'Desperation' for Bungie, Says Outspoken Analyst Michael Pachter
So it must've been a good deal then. Noted.
Re: Sony's MLB The Show 22 Up to $70 on PS5, PS4, No Extra Cost with Xbox Game Pass
@BeerIsAwesome Because it's profitable? Their option was continue the franchise as a multiplat and earn the revenue, or stop it all completely.
Re: Sony Buys Ex-Halo, Destiny Developer Bungie for $3.6 Billion
@Arcnail I think they made like 300-500 million profit on MTX annually. This deal pays itself in 10 years. If they can get them to develop more than just Destiny, possibly sooner. I think that's how they're looking at it. Long term strategy. MS plonked 70 billion down for Activision, that's more than Xbox made in profits throughout its 20 year life.
Re: Sony Buys Ex-Halo, Destiny Developer Bungie for $3.6 Billion
@Medic_Alert Could've been a reaction to the Bethesda buy out?
Re: Sony's MLB The Show 22 Up to $70 on PS5, PS4, No Extra Cost with Xbox Game Pass
@thefourfoldroot Microsoft just spent more on a single acquisition than they've made in revenue with their Xbox division throughout the last 20 years. They don't care about money lol. Buy up everything and spoil your customers until there's no competition left.
Re: Sony's MLB The Show 22 Up to $70 on PS5, PS4, No Extra Cost with Xbox Game Pass
@BeerIsAwesome Kinda true, but remember that MLB isn't really Sony's property. They pay for the license, and MLB demands the game to be cross-play. If it wasn't for them, it bet you it would've been a PS exclusive still.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy With Your PS Plus Games for February 2022?
Planet Coaster is alright, but I'm not going play that on a console.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Looks Ridiculous Even on PS4 Pro
This game looks like it has twice the detail compared to the first one. Kinda surprised it's running on a PS4 at all.
Re: Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection's PS5 Trophies Are a Complete Bust
Out of all the stupid things Sony does, this surely has to be at the bottom of it, no?
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Is Reportedly 'About as Long' as Horizon Zero Dawn
As long as three Tallnecks.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Will Have Strong Moral Choices Leading to an Impactful Ending on PS5, PS4
@Alduin That kind of mentality will eventually lead to cheaper (i.e. less qualitive) games. If people refuse to buy games full price because of some sub that offers it to you for a dime, then don't expect large AAA games to be the norm in the future. That mindset will favour quantity over quality. You get what you pay for.