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Robocop Rogue City, I played this back at launch on the PC and it was my GOTY, now replaying on the PS5 Pro as I go for its easy platinum. On the Pro it certainly still has issues in a few spots, most notably the big robot fight in the old factory. Still great fun though

When I'm done with that, I'll be continuing my replay of The Last of Us Part 2 and Shadow Generations, whilst also playing a bit of GTA 3 and Vice City now that it finally looks and plays pretty well

Over the last couple of years I'd started to buy more of my games on PC as I wasn't happy with either the image quality or performance of the PS5 version, games such as Resident Evil 4.

From what I've played so far, the Pro has solved these issues and now RE4 looks and runs great, TLOU2 looks noticably better, the RE2 Remake now runs at 60fps in its RT mode, Spider-Man 2 and Ratchet look amazingly sharp and going forward I'll now be playing much more on the PS5 Pro than PC. So personally I'm very happy with the system

Might have to jump back on PSVR2 at that price

Maybe they are doing this so they can sell these awful skins to those who want them, then for everyone else, they'll sell you an option for you to be able to turn them off and not see them

"Primary developers"

They slapped the original games in Unreal Engine and called it a day 😂

Personally if I'd have worked on those, I'd be embarrassed to have my name attached to it

@Rich33 yeah it got a patch just over a week ago, it's a bit confusing as there's seemingly no information about it but the game does look noticably better than when I last played on PS5 and the framerate is unlocked, with it now able to go well above 60fps

Personally I don't feel they should put the PS5 Pro enhanced label on any game until it receives it's patch. It's annoying to see games like Silent Hill 2 saying its Pro enhanced when it clearly isn't and it just means that I'm not playing those games for the time being.

It's even more confusing when some games that have been patched, don't specifically mention the Pro in their options, so how is the average consumer meant to know what's going on?

@DonJorginho yeah it's not like the PS5 launched at a higher price than the PS4 Pro did 🙄

The unfortunate reality is that the PS5and Xbox consoles have a higher RRP today than 4 years ago at launch. This has never happened before and I'll be stunned if the PS6 is actually cheaper than the PS5 Pro

@SJBUK I might jump back on VR2 if it gets some nice updates, I've heard good things about that Kayak game and it'd be awesome if GT7 supported higher framerates, as at the moment it's just 60fps native and reprojection to 120 with very obvious ghosting.

But yeah VRR is a literal game changer, removing the need for games to hit a locked 60fps and then anything above that just improving the experience further

@Jrs1 I'm not sure I'd say just as good, OLED has better black levels and motion clarity, I've just moved from a Samsung QLED to their OLED and it looks quite a bit better.

For brightness generally yes they are brighter but new Samsung OLED is very bright and I'd say, at least as bright as my old TV

@themightyant yeah for me the Pro is worth it for the improved image quality (not necessarily settings) and yes the framerate. Even Digital Foundry are struggling with the latter due to the nature of recording VRR and by and large they are differences you kind of have to see in person.

For anyone looking at the Pro, I'd suggest a good OLED VRR display is a must to truly take advantage of it and overall I'm very happy with the results.

Resident Evil 2 in its RT mode now locks to 60fps or 120 with it off, GT7 is glorious at 4K 120fps, TLOU2 looks razor sharp and runs around 80fps, with Spider-Man 2 around 50 odd fps (60 doesnt matter with VRR) in its fidelity Pro mode

@ChimpMasta I did upgrade my PS4 Pro from the launch model to TLOU2 edition but that looked nicer and as you said, was significantly quieter.

For PS5 there's no real difference for the consumer in any part of its design as far as I know

@Darude84 yeah that is an odd question, there's no reason whatsoever to buy the slim if you have the original, you're literally just throwing money away at that point

I tried this out earlier and the lighting at certain times of day is much better and more reminiscent of the PS2 originals. Overall I'd say they are a good way to play these games now, of course they should have done a much better job in the first place

He wants to remake Sonic Boom?

Jokes aside I do feel that Sonic 06 has a good fundamental premise but countless technical and control issues ruin the game.

This rebuilt in the current Hedgehog engine and some more thought put into its open areas, could be a very good game

Resident Evil 2 is one of my all time favourite games and it can be beaten in less than 2 hours, yet I've spent 100's of hours replaying it over the years. Even the Yakuza series itself, Gaiden is one of my favourite entries and it's the shortest.

There are some longer games that I really like but it's not the length that has ever been the selling point and I'd also say that too many games today make the mistake of being a bit too long. Give me a nice 10 to 15 hour action game over anything bloated to over 100 hours all day long

I've been playing this on PS5 Pro and whilst it's one of the trickier games to show the difference with, sat in front of my TV it is much sharper than the standard PS5 version. From the brief amount of time I've had the game bar up on my TV, it runs around 80fps as well in this mode.

As someone with a 4070ti in my PC, The Last of Us 2 on the Pro is easily up there with the best looking games I've played

It's been great to see Macaulay Culkin turn his life around and I'm excited to see him in season 2 of Fallout. Oh and bonus points for using an image from the AVGN episode

Funnily enough I've just got the Home Alone Lego set

@get2sammyb LAD IW is such a great game and my personal GOTY so far (Sonic, well Shadow may pip it) and it is almost an Infinite Wealth of fun content. I'm about 3/4 of the way through but am constantly distracted 😆

@Zuljaras Resident Evil 2 on N64 was a miracle and the extra content is a bonus, enjoy

I've been trying out a few PS5 Pro games such as The Last of Us 2, RE4 and Horizon Zero Dawn, all of which look and run amazingly and will be playing through them all in the upcoming weeks.

For now though, I've settled on Sonic X Shadow Generations, the original game still looks great and is a testament to how good the Hedgehog engine is and the Sonic Jam skin is cute. But the first level of the Shadow portion just blew me away, as a big fan of the Sonic boost games, I'm really going to enjoy this

To be fair, it is rather nice. I did remove and shrink some of the widgets so I could see it better

@Weebleman haha, no not yet. When it does it's for RT reflections on the cars but I hope we'll still be able to access this high framerate mode as well

@Weebleman yeah it's a bit of strange system and not obvious to the user whether a game has yet been enhanced, some like Resident Evil don't mention the Pro in their options but have been patched, just adding to the confusion

@JB_Whiting I've tried Pro enhanced games such as The Last Of Us 2, RE4 and FFVII Rebirth and I'd say all of them look much better, the first 2 running around 80 to 90fps too.

As for none Pro games, RE2 in it's RT mode now seems to lock to 60fps, where before it was pretty jerky and GT7 (not yet patched) runs a locked 4K 120fps and it's glorious, oh and Robocop, which I didn't play previously on PS5 but seems pretty stable on the first couple of missions at least

@Weebleman Silent Hill 2 hasn't been patched yet, it's last update was a couple of weeks ago to fix a progression blocker

The pop in is more noticable now that you can actually see the game properly 😂

@Mostik @DennisReynolds no the GT7 patch isn't out yet but you can run it at 4K 120fps

Yep and I'm very impressed with it so far, of the Pro enabled games I've tried The Last Of Us 2 looks significantly better, as does RE4 and Ratchet & Clank. On a high end OLED it looks amazing and 120hz VRR support is a must to get the most out of it. I also had a go of RE2's RT mode and that now locks to 60fps.

One final thought, the 2tb hard drive is very welcome, after feeling I was constantly running out of space on the base PS5, I've been installing a lot of games without issue, including big games such as GTAV, FFVII Rebirth and GT7

I'm very happy with it

We could do with a different list showing which are actually live

I hope so as it doesn't make much sense otherwise, not that it was the best Mega Drive collection (especially on Switch) but also those games delisted from Xbox.

As mentioned above, RGG have already done a lot of the work for Sega's arcade games, so packaging them together would be nice, even better if they could match he Atari 50th presentation.

Even for someone like me who still has their Dreamcast sat right next to the PS5 Pro, I'd be all over new Sega compilations on modern hardware

@get2sammyb haha thanks, it's my phone's lock screen too, I'm a bit of a fan of Sega Rally

Native resolution has been pointless to anyone gaming on PC for a while with DLSS, so PSSR was the biggest selling point of the Pro to me and it hasn't disappointed in the games I've tried so far. The Last of Us 2 for example, when looking at images online it might not look a big deal but sat right in front of your 4K TV and it's night and day

Mine is here, got the disc drive and SSD installed and those little feet are actually way more stable than the stand of the base model when Horizontal.

Now just installing games but have had a quick go of Resident Evil 2's RT mode which locked to 60fps and The Last of Us 2 which looks razor sharp

I can't wait to try this in GT7 and despite what some think, it's a much better game than GT Sport was. Fingers crossed they don't remove this option when the true Pro patch comes

I still regularly play Virtua Fighter 2 and 4, as for what I'd like to see them do for a new entry, how about something along the lines of Fighters Megamix? Have the core Virtua Fighter experience but supplemented by some external Sega characters, both sensible such as Kiryu and bonkers like a Daytona car

Mine has been dispatched and I'm looking forward to putting it through its paces tomorrow with FFVII, RE4 and F124, perhaps even a bit of The Last of Us 2

And this is why the console itself should come with one or at the very least they should have held back stock on their own site, so anyone buying a Pro can add the disc drive to the transaction.

Luckily I saw this coming and secured my disc drive a while back

"Xbox's Legendary Strategy Series Seemingly Set to Invade PS5"

This game was on the PS2 before any Xbox console even launched, the game didn't even launch on an Xbox console until 20 years later.

Originally a PC game and then Microsoft bought the studio in 2001, whilst Konami published the game on PS2 later that year as it was already in development, it's funny how history repeats itself

For me Like A Dragon Infinite Wealth is better than almost everything on that list, certainly the best in its genre this year. Tekken 8 is also great and Astro Bot is very good and I've not played Shadow Generations yet which is meant to be rather good too.

From this list I'd go Astor Bot but Infinite Wealth is probably my overall pick

@themightyant yeah, to me it seems and Sony (and the rest) keep cherry picking numbers to help encourage people into believing physical is dying and make them think about switching to digital. As ultimately, all publishers would much prefer to be 100% digital

@LordAinsley this has a nice breakdown for Europe with some data between platforms and types of games, which is why I always find it annoying when the overall number is reported without context. Even the Insomniac leaks had Sonys own games selling just 35% digitally overall for the leaked period
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/how-digital-is-the-video-games-market-in-2024

Well I'm glad Sony haven't gone with AMD's hugely misleading dual compute numbers as they're basically irrelevant for gaming. I'm looking forward to putting it through its paces on Thursday, not only with Pro enhanced games but how it will smooth over performance in stuff like Robocop or the RE Remakes RT modes

@EchoRange @LordAinsley those are overall numbers, for single player games they often sell better physically than digitally, or at least as well. It's online multiplayer titles and deep discounts on things like PSN sales that skew overall sales heavily in favour of digital.

Yeah my saves are all in the cloud waiting for the Pro, I do have some games on my SSD so I guess I can just transfer them straight over

@Chaosbros super sampling on PS4 Pro was just for those who were still on 1080p screens to get a small visual benefit of a game that could internally render above it. Something along those lines would be of no use to the PS5 Pro

That's interesting, I wonder if it's some kind of plugin to simply take PS4's internal render resolutions and output using PSSR

@themightyant yeah, I linked an article above and it varies vastly by game type, single player more towards physical and online games much more digitally. This year, it's so far veered towards digital on the back of games like Helldivers, whilst the likes of Star Wars have sold poorly compared with last years Hogwarts, plus Xbox skew the overall numbers towards digital as they have a much higher percentage than the others

@MikeOrator in terms of these weekly/monthly sales trackers that are reported, it's done by unit numbers

That figure includes Xbox which is around 90% digitally. For Playstation it's actually 32% physically this year across Europe and that's largely down to the type of games, Helldivers 2 for example was a big hit and online multiplayer games sell way more digitally where as single player games actually sell at least as much physically

In either case I have my disc drive ready for when my Pro arrives

Here's a more nuanced take over the whole physical vs digital split https://www.gamesindustry.biz/how-digital-is-the-video-games-market-in-2024