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@Shalooda I would never consider gaming and golf anywhere near each other in terms of their affordability and accessibility to the every day consumer to be honest. I mean I get that some regular joes buy golf clubs but at the end of the day it's an extremely elitist sport. Never saw gaming to be that way. I grew up in a trailer house and still had a Nintendo. There definitely wasn't any golfing going on however.

But really my point was just trying to get others to see why people who didn't plan on getting this console might still care how it sells. Wasn't really my intention to get into a debate as to whether this is luxury or not. It's kinda all relative anyway.

@Kalime78 I really don't know what Sony will do. But you do have people even in this very comments thread resigning themselves to playstations being luxury items. That attitude is relevant. The price point for the "premium" model in 2024 is relevant to the price for the more powerful and newer gen model in 20XX.

@roe But there's an elasticity to it at the moment. Some of y'all (not necessarily you but just in general) are absolutely ensuring Sony prices this thing out of reach of people who kinda just like to have a console kicking around. I mean that's Sony's prerogative of course, if they wanna be Apple okay I guess but as consumers we do have a say in that.

@Pranwell why be concerned about a future purchase? it's possible I may not have quite the Buddhist, que sera sera attitude that others have but imo, that's part of being an adult honestly - planning for future purchases. Seriously no disrespect intended but I think some people are being way too unconcerned about how much things cost.

@roe the relevance for the "it's too expensive" crowd is not hard to see. if this is a success, it sets a precedent. it's not just people being busy bodies or envious or bitter. it impacts what sony will likely do for the PS6.

EDIT: sorry, wrong word I just woke up

I don't understand who defends any number of ads on a luxury gaming console. This isn't supposed to be ad supported. I bought the thing. It's mine. Good grief this is stupid but it's whatever I've come to accept I hate this gen and probably will all subsequent abominable manifestations of late stage capitalism. This is the world now I guess.

Meh. It looks better in a way. But then the cheek bones aren't as pronounced and the smile lines have completely gone away which do y'know help people look more like people. Plus something about the new image is too smooth, especially the clothes. But lighting-wise I like the remastered image. The glossy lips are silly but it is what it is. Regardless I doubt I could replay this despite absolutely loving it the first time around. I think the slog that was HFW kinda killed this series for me.

@Pushsquarian @Northern_munkey @MikeOrator @themightyant @Weebleman @AhmadSumadi @Kidfunkadelic83 I'm definitely curious who all has me blocked though. That would actually really bother me because I try really hard not to be too annoying.

@Pranwell I appreciate the reminder that this site is exclusively for glazing Sony. My bad, carry on.

@get2sammyb you're letting them off the hook because of Astrobot? Disappointing reply tbh.

I can't see this being worth it. But maybe I'm playing my games wrong because some of these "upgrades" seem like something I won't notice. That is unless someone with a Pro is sitting next to me on an 8k TV and we're both playing the same game and we pause it to inspect the grass every now and then.

This thing just needs games. Otherwise, yeah, it's dead. Feels like I'm pointing out the obvious but maybe not, since Sony thought hey let's release a headset with no games.

"Factions, The Last of Us 2013's multiplayer offering was a long time ago, folks; expectations are vastly different these days."

Look, don't get me wrong, Fortnite is a behemoth and one can't ignore its existence but there's an audience for alternatives. I'm certain there are gamers out there who just can't get behind lollipop pickaxes and Ariana Grande skins. Like, surely that's not a controversial take.

I want no part of this. If I've decided on a difficulty I want to finish on that difficulty. No interest in having Luigi pop in and ask if I wanna cheese it because I've hit a challenging section.

@EfYI fan of ND but there's no question this is a leadership blunder. Whether that's at ND or SIE is up for debate but clearly someone f'd this up. And when you think about how you can get fired from a normal job for so much less it'll be frustrating but not surprising to see absolutely nothing change.

Well, I guess Jim Ryan's already on the way out and that's probably the closest anyone will get to accountability.

@Camlambelot I've been saying a Joel and Tommy prequel for years!

@AK4tywill Yeah I'm really not seeing how it was one or the other. everyone is just accepting their PR speak framing. not sure why.

Obviously they aren't going to say "yeah we could have scaled back our mp ambitions but then that wouldn't bring in gaas money so Sony had us cancel." But that's ultimately what happened.

Not a fan of online games and had mostly just a curious interest in this but this is complete BS.

And I don't buy that this is a result of ND taking on too much, especially not when you consider Bungie's involvement. It's probably more like, game wasn't live service enough and it was gonna take too much to make it so (to make the changes Bungie wanted).

In any case, it's an absolute embarrassment that a flagship studio leads fans on for years just to cancel. This isn't some Kickstarter project. No excuse for this imo.

Was fairly against the idea of a pro but the more it sounds like a reality the more tempted I am. But it depends on when it comes out. If it's 2024 then nah but I think I'd be ready by 2025.

@ShogunRok Thanks for making 3 the minimum. Just thought I'd show some appreciation on that.

Just don't understand why Sony couldn't make plates like these for the masses. Forever a mystery.

I snagged the WLF edition, because I'm an idiot.

@B_Lindz I think @MatthewJP is being sarcastic with you. The point being you can't play Epic games on your PlayStation and you'll need a fairly new device to run these games so it's not a great comparison.

I'm not picking a side either, I don't have a PC capable of paying anything worthwhile and I've recently quit Plus because I don't see the value in it.

Never played any Fallout for whatever reason but interested in this if Nolan and Joy are attached. Seeing what looks like Ella Purnell and Walton Goggins doesn't hurt either. Trying not judge it for being Amazon Prime though.

No one cares that it's blunt. It's the "definitely" that makes it sound salty. Office culture shade is usually subtle like that.

Sounds like there's some friction there to me. Maybe not a great sign.

Would be great if they'd give us a price before pre-orders. Need to know if I'm setting time aside for this or not, and that all depends on price.

@riceNpea that's what I'm trying to say. I'd argue the busting line isn't as recognizable. I didn't recognize it when I read the headline in fact. Never seen it referenced in any promotional material outside of this tweet either.

We can agree to disagree on that though. My familiarity with something isn't the end all be all for how common it is for everyone else.

@riceNpea you could literally go up to anyone on the planet and say "who you gonna call?" and they'd probably reply Ghostbusters. On the other hand if you went up to strangers exclaiming "busting makes me feel good" you'd probably end up in police custody.

Ray Parker Jr guys. That is all.

@riceNpea the song's line, is itself, an innuendo. I'd also argue this is a fairly obscure line. It's not in a verse and not part of chorus. But that's certainly up for debate.

But by "in my mind" I mean that's how you get by with an innuendo. It's not explicit but makes a connection to things we all know to mean other things... thus we all get the meaning (in our minds) without being overtly vulgar.

@riceNpea can't tell if you're playfully trolling or not. but I agree it's completely in my mind... because that's how innuendos work.

@PegasusActual93 well, I mean, if it's explicit it's not an innuendo.

In any case I'd say alluding to orgasms to sell a video game seems edgy to me but this could be a difference between marketing in the US vs marketing in the UK.

Not a fan of the edgy, sexual innuendo style of marketing myself. But that's just me.

@NinjaSixx but you can buy store credit at a discount quite frequently. Then there's PlayStation stars points along with PlayStation Visa points (if you have those). I'd say it all shakes out about the same if you play things right, with the exception of resale... physical does have that advantage.

Also, for some of us, the PlayStation store doesn't collect sales tax so that's basically a 10 percent discount where I live.

It's very likely just a native PS5 version and not a remake so not sure why this upsets literally anyone.

The continued lack of Changs is disappointing.

Kinda with @Olmaz here in that it seems like the real story here is that more monetisation is on the way in the form of seasonal fatality bundles. Less of an apology and more of a doubling down, no?

@PsBoxSwitchOwner yes and a Shelby is the same as an eco-boost because y'know they're both just Mustangs.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner it looks quite a bit smaller to me, don't really understand where that headline came from. I'll probably continue to call it a slim like everyone else because it's smaller and gets the point across without saying version two, or redesign, or late 2023 model or however we're supposed to identify it.

@VideoGameBoy what are you talking about guerrrrrrrilla?

That said I've sunk an incredible amount of hours into this game.

@Fiendish-Beaver funny thing is she's actually closer to the age of part II Ellie already so I don't think she's going to get to a point where she looks much older any time soon. Still seems like bad casting imo but it's whatevs.

I'm sure the series will still be pretty solid regardless.

If there's Daredevil DLC this game becomes an instant buy. So I'm half hoping it's not Daredevil lol.

@DennisReynolds @OmegaStriver guess we should have known with all of WB's restructuring and financial woes. Seems like any decision they've made lately has been impacted by that. Because outside of this weak entry, NetherRealm had been having some solid releases.

Pretty sure if Polyphony can regularly add cars to GT7 for free then surely NRS can add one seasonal fatality. Disgraceful.

Ah cool cool. Yeah I guess, having been away from PC for so long I didn't realize they'd gone exclusively digital. Or maybe just mostly digital. I'm still mentally stuck in the days of going into a store and picking up a copy of Warcraft III or whatever.

@nessisonett yeah the thing is just so Vegas. A monument to excess in one the most excess friendly places in the US. does look like a cool concert venue though, I'll give it that.

more to the topic though, I'll be glad when all this Spider-Man fervor dies down. No hate no shade as the kids say but the game doesn't seem all that and I look forward to first party stuff that's a little less lowest common denominator.

Lol now I'm out here being elitist

@Cloud39472 why? Just curious.

@EVIL-C this is hardly worth going back to at this point but I'm rarely on here and don't want things misconstrued. Saying that someone is kneecapping oneself, by taking the digital over the physical, sounds elitist yes. Not just the word on it's own. Because if one wanted the console with a smaller profile, a larger capacity SSD, and has no use for physical media (and can possibly sell the physical for the price of a digital)... I don't know, that just didn't seem like the bad deal you were making it out to be unless you meant that the digital, because it has one less feature, is by default inferior. If that's not the way you meant it then all good. Bygones.

@EVIL-C kneecapping though? that's not elitism? Like if I was said, "I don't know why you'd kneecap yourself by not getting the new iphone" I know what that sounds like to me. But eh. What do I know? I'm without substance.

@tselliot he's just simply incorrect is all.

@EVIL-C the insinuation that you're superior for buying physical is why this debate gets needlessly heated.