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@anon_pel222 I personally doubt that. I think at maximum the price will be 700 or lower, especially since as time goes on, certain materials used to make the console might get cheaper.

Plus, this is an optional upgrade meant mainly for the diehard PS players.

The Pro is too much money for sure, but at least it's not MANDATORY.

I'd say 700 would be at least more acceptable if they included the disc drive and stand, otherwise, 600 to 650 would be decent I think.

I feel like sony did this event announcing it and the price to test audience reactions.

I may be coping, but I have a feeling they'll do something to sweeten the offer, like including said disc drive, stand, and maybe even an extra controller or game.

If they did any or all of those, I think the pushback would stop at least a little bit.

Keep in mind this is an OPTIONAL CONSOLE. The base PS5 isn't being left behind any time soon.

@DonJorginho agreed. If they included the disc drive and a stand, it'd still be overpriced, but at least it'd be a LITTLE more reasonable.

Makes you wonder if Sony will backpedal a bit and include the disc drive at no extra cost due to the backlash.

@MrMeeeseeeks I highly doubt that, I don't think they'd do something THAT dumb. I mean, they're already getting so much backlash for this, so I don't think they'll risk it.

They didn't do anything like that for the PS4 pro either, so I think we're good.

I have a feeling they'll either change the price, or include the disc drive.

@riceNpea your comment wins 🤣

@UltimateOtaku91 personally, I feel like they'll have a showcase of some kind before TGS where they reveal it. Then at TGS they'll have it playable on the show floor. I guess we shall see!

@UltimateOtaku91 I could've sworn I saw some article that said September 2024. It probably was for another game, my bad lmao 😭

The only thing I can think of them announcing is whatever Bluepoint is doing, another Death Stranding 2 trailer of some kind, probably some Metal Gear Solid, and MAYBE a Spider-Man 2 DLC announcement. This under the assumption Sony isn't saving announcements for their own showcase, which is rumored to happen in September!

@AdamNovice I think it's a safe bet Lego Horizon will be there, given it releases a month later. I thought the game looked really cool so I'm stoked to see more of it!

@nessisonett 100% agree with you! A lot of developers assume we don't want them to use AI at all, but that's not entirely the case. How EA used it here is the correct (and in my opinion, only correct) way to use it, like you said.

I feel like this strike may not last as long as the last one. Main reason being that the vast majority of people are HEAVILY against use of AI in movies, shows, and games. These game companies definitely are aware of this and as a result, I feel like they'll meet the conditions. Especially since all they really gotta do is say that motion capture actors/stunt actors for games are safe from AI being used on them without permission. Also, these companies also realize that if they use AI anyway or get new actors, the backlash would be ABSOLUTELY INSANE, so I don't think they'll risk doing something so stupid.

I think this will clear up in a month or two, but in the meantime, keep us posted ya? Cheers!

This game probably had the biggest redemption of any game out there in my opinion

Mine is FFVII: Rebirth followed closely by Stellar Blade! Main reason Rebirth wins is obviously the story is much better than Stellar Blade's. Not that Blade's story is bad, in fact I found it quite intriguing, but the story of Rebirth hooked me basically immediately. Both amazing games 10/10 for me!

@3Above I think this is possible. Especially given they have Sony's funding, as well as the fact that all of the remakes/remasters they've done have sold well, means they could have 1 team for the original IP, while the other is doing a remaster!

I feel like Sony purposely waited to see what Xbox showed off before they had a showcase of their own. This isn't the first time they've done this either to my knowledge! Now that Sony saw what Xbox showed, they can plan their own showcase accordingly. I mean, it's obvious we're getting one here soon (September like in 2021 maybe?) to show off the PS5 Pro. I'd also suspect they show a bunch of first party stuff running on the PS5 Pro, such as the rumored Horizon Remake, Ghost Of Tsushima 2, Spider-Man 2 DLC, and MAYBE the rumored Venom game.

This sounds great and the animation looks fantastic! Hopefully this series is a nice segue into the next game!

I respect Geoff for setting expectations. It's really easy to let theories and hopes to go wild, especially since we haven't heard a lot about what's coming in a long time! Personally, I'm expecting Spider-Man 2 DLC, stuff for Dragon's Dogma 2, and MAYBE something for Horizon (rumored remaster)?

They'll still be announcements like he said, and I'm looking forward to those. As for existing games, personally I'm hoping for some Spider-Man 2 DLC, since it's basically all but confirmed to be happening (the Insomniac leak, and the Beetle dev menu being accessible for a time when the NG+ update came out). Plus, Insomniac still has some suits from another collaboration to add and they said on Twitter they're taking things into consideration (a fan asked about snow and rain, and Insomniac basically said they'd write it down). We could also see the rumored Horizon Remaster, or, if I could be bold, a Bloodborne remaster!

@ProfessorNiggle I know right? I mean, we all know the vast majority of people love Spider-Man 2 and the other SM games! I mean, everyone is clamoring for some DLC, so here's hoping they'll show some here soon at the State of Play, or Summer Games Fest!

@Beerheadgamer82 agree 100%. Last year they had the showcase and it ended with Spider-Man 2, but with no release date. With this State Of Play they could do something similar where they show a game and then at SGF they give the release date! The showcase later in September (according to rumors) will probably be to show off the PS5 Pro!

I'd love this! Astro's Playroom is a must play for any PS5 owner in my opinion, so a full game sounds like a dream come true!

Square is known to set EXTREMELY high and unfair expectations a lot of the time. A game could sell 10 million in 2 weeks and they'd still somehow say it fell short.

I kinda like this. It means that if someone wants to make a decision, the other will at least have a LITTLE say!

I loved both of the Evolution games, so this is great news in my eyes! Evolution 2 built upon the first one by a big margin, so I'm curious as to what they'll do with the 3rd one!

As if this situation couldn't get any worse, MS shut Tango down before a sequel to one of my favorite games from last year could be made! Hi-Fi Rush was up for GOTY right?

I have very low expectations for this, especially given the launch if 2042. I mean, I love Battlefield (Battlefield 4 is underrated IMO), but EA really dropped the ball with 2042. Not to mention they cut support for Star Wars Battlefront 2 to make 2042, when that game had SO MUCH potential. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this though.

This could be a great opportunity to show off not just Wolverine, but the leaked Venom game! They could even show gameplay on the PS5 pro, which will definitely be shown 100%. Plus, we haven't seen anything from Silent Hill 2 in a while. Same goes for whatever Bluepoint is making as well! We still have no idea what they're up to, whether it's another remake (Bloodborne plz), or a new IP, or both! Either way, I'm hyped!

I vividly remember people saying that Microsoft would do good by these gaming studios. Then, Microsoft shuts them down. Arkane Austin I can kinda understand given Redfall, but Tango? All their games (in my opinion) are amazing! The Evil Within games are criminally underrated. This news hits very hard.

@get2sammyb Agreed. Especially considering PC players were told from the get go that they'd have to make a PSN account later down the road. Regardless tho, it is good that this overblown drama will finally cease (hopefully)

@Kienda Right? Like, do these people not remember the MASSIVE hack? I love Spider-Man 2, but I'm willing to be patient. These people think they're above everyone and make demands on a whim. It's sad.

I wouldn't be surprised if we got some Spider-Man 2 NG+ announcement/DLC. Especially after the leak.

Wait Bloodborne kart was REAL? Please tell me I'm not crazy!

@Professor_Niggle Oh nice! I'm positive whatever they come up with will be great! All of their stuff has been really good.

@Professor_Niggle Same! Specifically with Bluepoint, I'm curious about whether they're doing a remake for a game (Bloodborne please!) or a new IP! Maybe both?

@Highlander77 THANK YOU! Also if Peter was never gonna be playable again and if he was truly retired, they would've made it abundantly clear!

Peter is still Spider-Man, he's just taking a break (Miles even says go be Peter for awhile). What they mean is that Miles is the main one watching over New York while Peter is more part time. In terms of story, Peter and Miles will still both be main characters and share the spotlight. If anything, I wouldn't be surprised if Peter is slightly more of a main character in 3 than Miles like he was in 2, especially given Pete's history with Norman and Otto, and we also have Carnage too. Both of them will still be playable too! Now, I do think 3 will be Peter's last outing as Spider-Man, with 3 showing how Cindy gets her powers. My guess is that MJ and Pete get married by the end, allowing Miles and Silk to take over. Until then, Peter and Miles are still gonna share the spotlight.

Watch the Xbox fanboys try and review bomb the game. They tried and failed with both Horizon FW and God Of War Ragnarok.

HYPED! God Of War Ragnarok went gold about a month before release and the review embargo lifted about a week before the game launched! It seems the same will happen here!

@lightningbolt79 I see what you're saying but this is a little different. Sony buys studios, and even whenever they do so, it's a studio they have worked with before like Santa Monica and Insomniac. With Microsoft, they're buying a whole publisher which includes multiple developers, them being Infinity Ward, Treyarch, Sledgehammer, and Blizzard (obviously). So while I see what you're saying, this situation is different than when Sony acquires a singular studio. Either way, this deal will change nothing. COD will continue to be trash lmao.

@KaijuKaiser I think this may end up happening. In Spectacular Spider-Man Kraven gets so obsessed with defeating Spider-Man that he forces a doctor to give him powers. Something similar could happen here.

I hope and pray it's not another battle pass game.
If it is, I genuinely might not get it.

@Impossibilium I agree 100%! I honestly think late September would be the release date.

This sounds great! I'm thinking it'll be like GTA but in order to progress the story you'll have to play a specific Spider-Man. Kinda like how in Ultimate Spider-Man you played some missions as Peter, then as Venom. I'm confident both Spider-Men will have their own side quests and stuff.

@KundaliniRising333 ah so hundreds of riddler trophies are fine, but close to thirty backpacks is bad. If ya don't like it, don't play it. The majority of us are gonna enjoy ourselves.

I've seen no complaints about the gameplay myself. All I've seen is hype/excitement. Like others have said, the people that are dissing the game are the same that were mad at puddles in the first. Just trolls looking for attention. The vast majority of people are hyped for the game. Heck the gameplay trailer (if you count both uploads) is close to 20 million views already!

Besides Death Stranding 2, I'm thinking Sony MAYBE will have one more thing. What it is, I'm not sure. Maybe it'll be the Spider-Man 2 release date or some like that?

I believe we may see some things at Summer Games fest. Death Stranding 2 is a given, but I'm thinking they'll have ONE more thing.
MK1 is going to be there so there's that too.

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He says calmy climbing up the wall

@Uncharted2007 same lmao

@get2sammyb I apologize if this has been asked already, but how does thr combat feel? Is it more like FF15 or more like FF7 Remake?