Here in Sweden, The PS4 Pro was MUCH harder to find in stores, during the release. But is was also much cheaper, than the PS5 Pro, which is equal to $1000 over here. So it's not exactly flying off the shelves in our region.
It's really hard, for me, to get excited for more sequels though. I hope we finally might get some fun and original new IP:s. But I bet it's just more of those cinematic third-person games 😮💨
I expected a bit more, than just the quality mode in 60fps. Some of the graphical settings, are the same as performance mode, like the shadows. But as mentioned, most disappointing, is the damn pop in. But at least it's not a blur anymore, in 60fps.
@KoopaTheGamer
Yeah, and that will create a bottle neck.
Same problem with the PS4 Pro, which resulted in lots of games with higher resolution, but still running at 30fps.
Still pretty bad framerate, during those epic fights. And damn, is the scaling artifacts going crazy, during the fights.
Since the game has dynamic scaling, and still can't stay locked at 60, on the more powerful hardware, I suspect they will lower the resolution, when they patch it with PSSR. Graphics looks better on the Quality mode on Pro, but that video didn't show us the framerates, in that mode.
@viktorcode Kinda expected that. With PSSR, the developers, will get even more lazy.
I feared this would happen, as soon as upscalers like DLSS and FSR arrived. It's great for weaker hardware. But when it also have to be used on the most powerful hardware, then something has gone very wrong. And slap some frame generation on that, with plenty of input lag, due to low native framerates...
Ah yes, the "true vision". And that "vision" will be even more true, when we release the remastered version on PS6. And you will be even more amazed by the most true vision of that one, on PS6 Pro. And let's not forget about the remake for PS7...
@LogicStrikesAgain
The team who made the remaster, could have put the time and money on making a new game. Or an old PS2-PS3 game, that really needs a re-release on modern platforms.
You need to stop overhyping the console, or it will be met with disappointments, when it can't make the PS4 games any better, due to locked framerates, or other engine related limitations.
Slow down, and let's see what it's REALLY capable off.
Remember all the hype for the PS4 Pro?
We mostly just got 1440p, over 1080p, due to checkerboarding, and the games stayed locked at 30fps.
Still having "Performance" and "Graphics mode" on the PS5 Pro, means we will STILL have to make sacrifices for 60fps, just like the OG PS5. I fear that most people expect some kind of next-gen leap, which will not be the case here.
So far, FF Rebirth, is the only game that really seems to benefit from the updated hardware.
I miss the PS1-PS3 era. Where games became more impressive and ran better, further into the generation, when they really knew how to optimize for the hardware. Even though the PS3 was really hard to program, and the 360 ports turned out better, in the first half of that generation, eventually they really knew how to make games, that finally took advantage of the hardware.
All that sadly ended, with the PS4... Now consoles, are just gaming PC:s, with their own OS...
And I bet it's just gonna get worse from here... First PS6, then PS6 Pro, and then PS6 Pro Elite, for only $2000
The first game, for the PS4, was much better. The only thing I liked about the sequel, was the way you could travel faster through the city. But the story was dull, and the characters boring. Had some hopes about Venom, but yet again, they fail doing the thing justice...
Also, a friend of mine, lost his entire physical collection of carts, discs and consoles, when his house burned down, in the middle of a forest fire. He began to buy digitally, about 8 years ago. So he could just buy a new console, and his digital collection, was still there, do re-download. His physical though, had turned into melted plastic. Only a handful of discs, survived, though the covers where trash.
He was of course heartbroken, but still glad he had gone digital, the last couple of years. I asked him if he would rebuild his collection, but he said he was done with it.
I modded a PS2 for him, so he at least could play ISO:s of PS1 and PS2 games, of all the games he lost.
I have been buying digital games, on PC and consoles, since 2006, and haven't lost a single game. I can still re-download all the games, that isn't available to buy anymore. When it comes to older disc based systems, I have modded them to use HDD or SD cards instead, due to failing drives. There will be a point, when new lasers and drives, won't be possible to buy anymore. And discs don't last forever either. Got plenty of old discs, that even a new laser won't read...
So we still don't get the sharpness, of OG PS5 fidelity mode, in the performance mode on the Pro. Instead we still get, shimmering, softer image/textures. That's just "great"...
Let's see how the third party games, that struggles on the original PS5, benefits from the Pro. So far only Rebirth gets a huge image boost, but at what framerate?
@thefourfoldroot1 I have showed off VR to my friends, but after saying it's cool, none has ever asked to try it again, or bought one themselves. It's just too clunky for most people, and the games are often still too janky, when it comes to interacting with objects, etc. I haven't touched VR, since January. I just don't feel like going back into VR. Even though there are some good VR games, like Asgards Wrath 2 and Half Life Alyx. Too me, flat games are much better overall, with more depth to the gameplay itself. And it's more relaxing to play, compared to VR. I've given VR plenty of chances, since 2016, when I got my HTC Vive. The only VR game that I really loved, was Astrobot on PSVR. Until we get more quality games like that, VR will remain a niche.
Quest sells a lot, but it seems it became the VR version of Wii. People bought the Wii, just to play Wii Sports, and now they might buy a Quest, to play Beat saber, and nothing else.
If only Sony would give us folders, and an option to completely DELETE demos, and games I've played on PS+. Tired of having to hide the games and demos, in my library, that I'm never gonna play again.
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Re: PS5 Pro Pre-Orders Are Stronger Than PS4 Pro, But Scalpers Are Losing Money
Here in Sweden, The PS4 Pro was MUCH harder to find in stores, during the release. But is was also much cheaper, than the PS5 Pro, which is equal to $1000 over here. So it's not exactly flying off the shelves in our region.
Re: Sony Promises It'll Launch Major PS5 Single Player Games Every Year Moving Forwards
It's really hard, for me, to get excited for more sequels though. I hope we finally might get some fun and original new IP:s.
But I bet it's just more of those cinematic third-person games 😮💨
Re: Where To Buy PS5 Pro
Plenty of consoles on stock everywhere, here in Sweden. Even the pre-order slots, were never filled. So I guess the scalpers, skipped this one 😁
Re: Hands On: Serious Pop-In the Only Problem with Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth's Massive PS5 Pro Boost
I expected a bit more, than just the quality mode in 60fps. Some of the graphical settings, are the same as performance mode, like the shadows.
But as mentioned, most disappointing, is the damn pop in. But at least it's not a blur anymore, in 60fps.
Re: Hands On: $700 Later and Dragon's Dogma 2 PS5 Pro Performance Is Still Far from Perfect
It's a very CPU heavy game.
Too bad the CPU in the Pro didn't get the same level of upgrade, as the GPU.
Re: God of War Ragnarok Will Look and Run Better Than Ever on PS5 Pro, And Solve Fewer Puzzles for You
Take a shot, every time a new article about a boosted game shows up, and you will pass out in just a short while 😂
Re: PS5 Pro Has a Remarkable Impact on Unpatched Games
DF review of the Pro.
https://youtu.be/MzdV8lR82N4?si=LDf8yp8ABN9YFB1n
Re: Early Tests Reveal How PS5 Pro Improves Your Old PS4 Games
DF review of the Pro.
https://youtu.be/MzdV8lR82N4?si=LDf8yp8ABN9YFB1n
Re: SEGA Is Bringing Back Its Iconic Virtua Fighter Franchise for PS5
YES!!
About time!
Re: PS5 Pro Has a Remarkable Impact on Unpatched Games Too
@KoopaTheGamer
Yeah, and that will create a bottle neck.
Same problem with the PS4 Pro, which resulted in lots of games with higher resolution, but still running at 30fps.
Re: PS5 Pro Has a Remarkable Impact on Unpatched Games Too
Still pretty bad framerate, during those epic fights.
And damn, is the scaling artifacts going crazy, during the fights.
Since the game has dynamic scaling, and still can't stay locked at 60, on the more powerful hardware, I suspect they will lower the resolution, when they patch it with PSSR.
Graphics looks better on the Quality mode on Pro, but that video didn't show us the framerates, in that mode.
Re: In the UK, You Can't Buy a PS5 Pro Disc Drive without Paying a Premium
I hope people don't buy from these ***holes.
Just wait until they return in stock.
It's not like Sony stopped making them.
Re: PS5 Pro Makes Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Look Like a Whole New Game
Looking like a whole new game? 😂
Yes, it looks better, but come on now...
Re: Dragon's Dogma 2 Set to Run Significantly Better on PS5 Pro, Early Footage Reveals
@viktorcode
Kinda expected that. With PSSR, the developers, will get even more lazy.
I feared this would happen, as soon as upscalers like DLSS and FSR arrived. It's great for weaker hardware. But when it also have to be used on the most powerful hardware, then something has gone very wrong.
And slap some frame generation on that, with plenty of input lag, due to low native framerates...
Re: Insomniac Developers Psyched for PS5 Pro, Enhanced Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart is 'Phenomenal'
Ah yes, the "true vision".
And that "vision" will be even more true, when we release the remastered version on PS6.
And you will be even more amazed by the most true vision of that one, on PS6 Pro.
And let's not forget about the remake for PS7...
Re: Bloodborne PS5 Pro Comparison Appears As Consumers Receive Console Early
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Re: More People Are Playing the Original Horizon Zero Dawn Than Its Remaster on PC
@LogicStrikesAgain
The team who made the remaster, could have put the time and money on making a new game. Or an old PS2-PS3 game, that really needs a re-release on modern platforms.
Re: More People Are Playing the Original Horizon Zero Dawn Than Its Remaster on PC
A comparison, done on PC, that shows how pointless this remaster was. They should just call it "More grass and Fog" Edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7Nc9t5legs
Re: Fortnite's About to Make a Fortune by Flogging Freakin' Footwear
Are kids still playing this?
Re: Bloodborne PS5 Pro Comparison Appears As Consumers Receive Console Early
That's just a simple sharpening filter applied...
As I said in the previous article: Stop over hyping everything!
Re: PS5 Pro Could Seriously Improve the Quality of Your PS4 Games
You need to stop overhyping the console, or it will be met with disappointments, when it can't make the PS4 games any better, due to locked framerates, or other engine related limitations.
Slow down, and let's see what it's REALLY capable off.
Remember all the hype for the PS4 Pro?
We mostly just got 1440p, over 1080p, due to checkerboarding, and the games stayed locked at 30fps.
Still having "Performance" and "Graphics mode" on the PS5 Pro, means we will STILL have to make sacrifices for 60fps, just like the OG PS5. I fear that most people expect some kind of next-gen leap, which will not be the case here.
So far, FF Rebirth, is the only game that really seems to benefit from the updated hardware.
Re: PS5 Pro was a '5-Year Project', In Development Before PS5's Launch
I miss the PS1-PS3 era.
Where games became more impressive and ran better, further into the generation, when they really knew how to optimize for the hardware. Even though the PS3 was really hard to program, and the 360 ports turned out better, in the first half of that generation, eventually they really knew how to make games, that finally took advantage of the hardware.
All that sadly ended, with the PS4...
Now consoles, are just gaming PC:s, with their own OS...
And I bet it's just gonna get worse from here...
First PS6, then PS6 Pro, and then PS6 Pro Elite, for only $2000
Re: Sony Says the Best Time to Get a PS5 Is Now
Now would be the best time... to just stick with your PS4.
Re: PlayStation Studios: All Sony First-Party Developers and What They're Working On
@Dr_Rocanlover
And don't forget the paid upgrades for those, when it's time for PS6 Pro. 😂
Re: Ubisoft Confident Assassin's Creed Shadows Will Make February Launch
I wouldn't shed a tear, if the game never comes out. Same if Ubisoft shut down.
Re: PS5 Pro Not Compatible with PS5 Slim Face Plates, Sony to Release New Covers for More Powerful Console
Well, they had to find a way, to keep milking the fans for extra plastic crap.
Re: PS5, PC Flop Concord Never Returning, Studio Closed Down
@Lastochka
The worst thing, was when they moved to California...
Re: Next Mass Effect to Retain 'Mature Tone' and 'Photorealistic' Graphics
Realistic graphics = around 500 million and a decade of development? 😂
Re: After a Tough Few Months, Sony Says It'll Keep Making PS5 Live Service Games
It's like Xbox and Playstation, are competing in making the worst decisions, this gen.
I'm not looking forward to the next gen...
Re: After a Tough Few Months, Sony Says It'll Keep Making PS5 Live Service Games
@C25CLOUD
Maybe by lowering the budgets of their AAA games instead? It's gotten way to bloated.
Re: After a Tough Few Months, Sony Says It'll Keep Making PS5 Live Service Games
It's like playing Lemmings.
Sony just keeps jumping off that cliff...
They'll never learn...
Re: Concord Cost Sony Over $200 Million, And Didn't Make a Single Cent
Just imagine all the AA games, they could have made, with all that money...
They deserve loosing all that money.
Maybe one day they will learn... or not...
Re: PS5, PC Flop Concord Never Returning, Studio Closed Down
And nothing of worth, was lost.
Re: TV Show Review: Like a Dragon: Yakuza - Generic Japanese Crime Caper Doesn't Do SEGA Franchise Justice
I haven't enjoyed any of the Live action TV-shows based on videogames. Most tv-shows are ***** these days. So I had no hopes about this one either.
Re: Sony's Guerrilla Sounds Completely Done with the Killzone Series
Well, just sell the IP to someone else then.
Guess we're stuck with Horizon and a billion spin-offs...
Re: Spider-Man 2 Won't Receive Any PS5 Story DLC
The first game, for the PS4, was much better.
The only thing I liked about the sequel, was the way you could travel faster through the city. But the story was dull, and the characters boring.
Had some hopes about Venom, but yet again, they fail doing the thing justice...
Re: Like It or Not, This Is Why PS5 Pro Doesn't Have a Disc Drive
Also, a friend of mine, lost his entire physical collection of carts, discs and consoles, when his house burned down, in the middle of a forest fire. He began to buy digitally, about 8 years ago. So he could just buy a new console, and his digital collection, was still there, do re-download. His physical though, had turned into melted plastic. Only a handful of discs, survived, though the covers where trash.
He was of course heartbroken, but still glad he had gone digital, the last couple of years. I asked him if he would rebuild his collection, but he said he was done with it.
I modded a PS2 for him, so he at least could play ISO:s of PS1 and PS2 games, of all the games he lost.
Re: Like It or Not, This Is Why PS5 Pro Doesn't Have a Disc Drive
I have been buying digital games, on PC and consoles, since 2006, and haven't lost a single game. I can still re-download all the games, that isn't available to buy anymore.
When it comes to older disc based systems, I have modded them to use HDD or SD cards instead, due to failing drives.
There will be a point, when new lasers and drives, won't be possible to buy anymore. And discs don't last forever either.
Got plenty of old discs, that even a new laser won't read...
Re: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Showcases the Problem with Sony's Games on PS5 Pro
So we still don't get the sharpness, of OG PS5 fidelity mode, in the performance mode on the Pro. Instead we still get, shimmering, softer image/textures. That's just "great"...
Let's see how the third party games, that struggles on the original PS5, benefits from the Pro. So far only Rebirth gets a huge image boost, but at what framerate?
Re: Spider-Man 2 Won't Receive Any PS5 Story DLC
I wish they would move on from Marvel games, and make a new original IP.
Or maybe reboot Resistance.
Re: Unknown 9: Awakening (PS5) - Brand New IP Shows Plenty of Promise
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Re: Unknown 9: Awakening (PS5) - Brand New IP Shows Plenty of Promise
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Re: Boy! Sony and Amazon to Start from Scratch on God of War TV Show
Ugh...
It's gonna have the same problems, as most modern TV-shows.
5% action, and 95% drama.
"Can't wait" for Kratos having soap opera moments.
Just give us a videogame reboot, with old-school Kratos, back in Greece.
No more over the shoulder camera, and boring drama.
Re: Poll: Are You Using the PS5's New Welcome Hub?
I haven't turned on my PS5, since i finished Astro bot, so it haven't been updated yet. Doubt I'll use it anyway.
Re: Unknown 9: Awakening (PS5) - Brand New IP Shows Plenty of Promise
@twitchtvpat
Yes, we want new IP:s, but that doesn't mean that we want trash.
Re: Mini Review: Arizona Sunshine Remake (PS5) - More Remaster Than Remake
@thefourfoldroot1
I have showed off VR to my friends, but after saying it's cool, none has ever asked to try it again, or bought one themselves.
It's just too clunky for most people, and the games are often still too janky, when it comes to interacting with objects, etc.
I haven't touched VR, since January. I just don't feel like going back into VR. Even though there are some good VR games, like Asgards Wrath 2 and Half Life Alyx. Too me, flat games are much better overall, with more depth to the gameplay itself. And it's more relaxing to play, compared to VR.
I've given VR plenty of chances, since 2016, when I got my HTC Vive. The only VR game that I really loved, was Astrobot on PSVR.
Until we get more quality games like that, VR will remain a niche.
Quest sells a lot, but it seems it became the VR version of Wii. People bought the Wii, just to play Wii Sports, and now they might buy a Quest, to play Beat saber, and nothing else.
Re: PS5's New Welcome Page Rolling Out to UK Accounts
If only Sony would give us folders, and an option to completely DELETE demos, and games I've played on PS+.
Tired of having to hide the games and demos, in my library, that I'm never gonna play again.
Re: Dino Crisis Fans Hoodwinked as Capcom's PS1 Classic Requires Premium, Lacks Trophies
Never cared about trophies.
Too bad you can't just buy the game.
If you don't own a disc, and you have a PC, just emulate instead.
That way you can also render the game in higher resolution etc.
I sold my disc, a long time ago, but I modded my PS1, with X-station, so I don't have to deal with overpriced original discs anymore.
I hope we get a remake, just like the RE games, or a brand new game.
Re: 5v5 Anime Hero Shooter Strinova Probably Won't Struggle to Find an Audience
Just what the gaming world needs, more crappy hero shooters...