@GeeEssEff it's dumb. There's more competition than ever before. Steam is huge, Nintendo is huge. There is still the fight with traditional streaming media and YouTube as well for people's time.
@PuppetMaster true. It's just that nothing has really scratched that itch since. A lot of games have tried to take the Uncharted mechanics and while some like the Jedi games do it decently none have actually managed to have the polish and set pieces and vertical combat to match.
@Northern_munkey if it is like that than I'm definitely in. But the trailer really gave me Nioh vibes. I like Souls-likes but I'm burned out on the type of game overall.
If you listen to Sacred Symbols they've been parroting this for months. Xbox has created a narrative around console/premium gaming that is largely not true. The Playstation 5 is doing well for a console with covid issues and a price increase and software sales are great. The Switch is a juggernaut. PC gaming is more accessible than ever. The only group bringing it down is Xbox.
I'm excited for this game but damn the whole trailer just had me wanting to replay U4 or 2 again. Like damn, those games rule. I hope Sony brings the franchise back if not with NDs development at least their story/creative input.
Regarding the business decision. If it is anything like Sonys deals with Disney? They need to hit certain sales targets, revenue and units. Probably Xbox negotiated with Playtime instead for GPU. Either way with their current hardware sales it seems like they have no choice but to go multiplat. Spider-Man is a gigantic franchise and Playstation do insane marketing and spending to ensure it's success. Xbox doesn't have that with Indy.
Funny part is? Had someone negotiated for an Indy game now, they probably would've got a better deal from Lucasfilm after the last movie became a flop.
@ZeD every platform has gotten really bad. The Switch store is borderline unusable to just browse for games. Steam is flooded with low quality 18+ games or straight up unfinished messes. Playstation has a ton of trophy games that are shovelware. I wonder if these games actually make money.
I liked World and Rise but they never really clicked for me especially since I'm a SP only gamer. I'm hesitant to again pay full price for another game in the series despite it looking promising. Maybe the reviews and hype nearer to launch will get me to buy it.
It looks like another Nioh-like. Plus I'm really tired of Ben Starrs lack of range as a VA. It seems he's become the go to angry British VA. Hope he doesn't get pigeonholed and is given a more interesting job in the future.
What is wrong with devs? Even last year Sept-Nov was stacked and many games suffered. Why do they keep thinking they can launch then? I'm already screwed with Metaphor and Veilguard coming 2 weeks apart.
Oh and September has ASTRO at the beginning of the month and Zelda near the end of the month ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
@GADG3Tx87 actually during the ABK trial, Bethesda docs showed that the deal had been amended with Disney to exclude Playstation. Even in Feb, Spencer said the game would remain on Xbox. This is a decision they made after Sea of Thieves I'm sure of it.
@LowDefAl the leaks are fascinating when you ignore the Insomniac/Wolverine stuff (I'm getting the game, why spoil myself). From updated software sales, some of their internal thinking and they experiment a lot (Horizon on PS plus was one of them)
Not surprised since HFW was used as a test case to see if a MS GP style approach to to PS exclusives soon after release on Plus was worth it. Ended up costing them a lot of revenue.
Source? Insomniac leaks
Also, HFW and Midnight Suns are on sale very often and are worth buying since they're high quality games that are best played at your own pace.
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@Chaosbros I was discussing it with my brother who has the Series S and he said the same thing. Neither Blade nor Indy are Spider-Man or Wolverine level IPs where people will go out of their way to get consoles.
"Famously Passionate". Sorry bud but this community is FAMOUSLY TOXIC. But let Arrowhead suffer imo. They thought they were hot ***** when they sent review bombers to harass and review bomb other Sony games on PC.
Give PC gamers an inch and theyll take everything.
So a few issues:
1. Alan Wake being a decade old console exclusive release meaning a huge chunk of the audience won't care for a direct sequel.
2. Going the full survival horror route which hasn't really worked for any game in AAA that's not Resident Evil.
3. Gameplay just isn't very good imo despite enjoying the artistic choices, cutscenes and music. The game is slow, bosses suck, the mind palace is too limited.
4. Backtracking for the platinum sucks but this is a me problem lol.
5. A game you can watch on YouTube and have the full experience minus the bad part that is actually playing the game.
It is really weird that they made this when they had some of the best gameplay in Control and it's incredible movement. Night Springs was a step in the right direction. Leaning into the whackiness while also having less combat overall.
No games but experimental indies should be out day one on subs. Games like KunitsuGami and Animal Well make sense.
If any bigger game is on a sub day one I usually assume it's because the devs know they have a mediocre game and would rather take the upfront money instead of fighting it out in the market with a Metascore of 65-72.
@Thumper the difference is tone. In Bg3 it always consential between the player character and their romantic interest and the relationships are built with care.
Going around taking silly shots of Zombies is juvenile and nowhere near the same thing.
They've gone Sbi or Dei or woke or whatever. Time to make a 45 minute video on YouTube crying about this while selling Nord VPN subscriptions or something.
In all honesty, it's quite silly to remove this but I also understand they want to be a little more sensitive now that they're a big company and stuff like this will get discourse one way or another. Maybe it no longer reflects the feeling of the devs and team and they're embarrassed by the feature.
@PsBoxSwitchOwner the amount we earn is nowhere near equal to the increase in prices for most products including games. CPI and inflation have gone far beyond the salary increases of the working class. Since 2022 most lower and lower-middle income british households have cut their spending and reallocated it to electricity bills and food.
Europe has been hit far worst than the rest of the world when it comes to inflation.
I think I used the other characters in ME1 because they were so dumb and Dragon fights In Inquisition because of how long those fights were. Otherwise I only command them in the tutorial then forget they exist the rest of the time.
Playstation is taking over the Backend and it was done for cost restructuring. Sony is taking more direct control of Bungie and there will more focus on Destiny and Marathon development (no more incubation).
Source: financial call yesterday. First question asked to Hiroki Totoki.
@PsBoxSwitchOwner the last time Playstation had an unintented exclusive was Bg3 which was a easy game of the year. So maybe they're going two for two this year 😅
@Intr1n5ic oh that sucks. I'm usually mixed on Obsidians games but I always respect their commitment to making interesting worlds. Oh well the December time frame now looks more likely for Black myth.
Definitely interested in this but it will have to wait. Next month has ASTRO and Zelda and October has Metaphor and November probably has The Veilguard. In between all of that is Indy and Avowed. This game will probably only be given serious consideration by December end or Jan.
@LowDefAl I agree. But I think they could try leaning into looking a little less corporate. I don't know how to explain it. Maybe just have a little more of a presence. I think the tv/movie stuff is helping with that. Otherwise I actually prefer this 'keep you cards close to your chest approach'
@AdamNovice also, Sonys big games are supposed to start dropping next year onwards as per their previous financial calls. This year feels like a gap year after 2022 and 2023 had so many big releases.
Mochizuki has always been pessimistic on Sony so I'm not surprised.
Personally I think being behind to the ps4 by 1.8million units while being in a recession period, having covid shortages and having a price Increase while already being more expensive is actually stronger than I expected. I don't think it'll beat the PS4 lifetime but I also never expected it to because the covid bump was false growth (I don't think the Switch 2 will hit the Switch 1 numbers either).
People forget that The PS2 was also bolstered by extremely strong third parties mixed with First party software.
I do think two areas Sony need to improve on is building hype (TGS may bring this back) and mixing more smaller AA games from younger teams (miles morales type) to keep the first party looking strong.
Releasing in a crowded JRPG schedule fighting for the same group of players is bound to hurt it. Especially with Squares inflated judgment of sales success.
It doesn't help that they're comparing a pandemic launch at the end of the console lifecycle to a mid gen console within a time of economic messes and high inflation.
The extremely high budget and divisive nature of the game doesn't help either. Most people would wait for the third game to buy the triplet package if they were smart too.
Square going aggressively multiplatform won't give them the success they hope for until they reduce budgets heavily. The PC market mostly buys games on sale/cheaper based of basic reading and research, the Switch 2 could have potential but I don't honestly see it being more than another mil or 2 units.
@NEStalgia that's not true. Nintendos success in software is almost completely first party software. Third party support while better than before (especially for indies) is still not very strong. They recently hired a former Playstation man to help them get more third party support.
I don't think a lot of players will have issues unless it is really broken but games media and online buzz will likely be overwhelmingly negative given Bloober and Konami's reputation.
Personally it doesn't appeal to me but I've always thought SH was overrated but had great creature and atmospheric design.
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Re: Xbox Renegotiated Indiana Jones Deal to Exclude PS5, Then Ported It Anyway
@GeeEssEff it's dumb. There's more competition than ever before. Steam is huge, Nintendo is huge. There is still the fight with traditional streaming media and YouTube as well for people's time.
Re: Xbox Renegotiated Indiana Jones Deal to Exclude PS5, Then Ported It Anyway
@PuppetMaster true. It's just that nothing has really scratched that itch since. A lot of games have tried to take the Uncharted mechanics and while some like the Jedi games do it decently none have actually managed to have the polish and set pieces and vertical combat to match.
Re: The First Berserker: Khazan Hits PS5 Early 2025, Shows Real Promise in New Gameplay Trailer
@Northern_munkey if it is like that than I'm definitely in. But the trailer really gave me Nioh vibes. I like Souls-likes but I'm burned out on the type of game overall.
Re: Xbox on Bringing Exclusives to PS5: The Industry Is Changing for All of Us
If you listen to Sacred Symbols they've been parroting this for months. Xbox has created a narrative around console/premium gaming that is largely not true.
The Playstation 5 is doing well for a console with covid issues and a price increase and software sales are great. The Switch is a juggernaut. PC gaming is more accessible than ever. The only group bringing it down is Xbox.
Re: Over 1,000 Discounts on PS5, PS4 Games in Latest PS Store Sale
@VaultGuy415 I liked it.. But I'm too dumb to understand card/deck building games lol and got stuck after a while. Incredible atmosphere though.
Re: Xbox Renegotiated Indiana Jones Deal to Exclude PS5, Then Ported It Anyway
I'm excited for this game but damn the whole trailer just had me wanting to replay U4 or 2 again. Like damn, those games rule. I hope Sony brings the franchise back if not with NDs development at least their story/creative input.
Regarding the business decision. If it is anything like Sonys deals with Disney? They need to hit certain sales targets, revenue and units. Probably Xbox negotiated with Playtime instead for GPU. Either way with their current hardware sales it seems like they have no choice but to go multiplat. Spider-Man is a gigantic franchise and Playstation do insane marketing and spending to ensure it's success. Xbox doesn't have that with Indy.
Funny part is? Had someone negotiated for an Indy game now, they probably would've got a better deal from Lucasfilm after the last movie became a flop.
Re: Persona 3 Reload: Episode Aigis Has a New Boss Fight You'll Never See Coming
It's the boss fight we all saw coming.
Re: Capcom Debuts 1 Hour of Raw Monster Hunter Wilds Gameplay on PS5, Looks Outstanding
@PsBoxSwitchOwner it has to be Feb imo. Like Monster Hunter Worlds. When did Rise release for Switch?
Re: Over 1,000 Discounts on PS5, PS4 Games in Latest PS Store Sale
@ZeD every platform has gotten really bad. The Switch store is borderline unusable to just browse for games. Steam is flooded with low quality 18+ games or straight up unfinished messes.
Playstation has a ton of trophy games that are shovelware.
I wonder if these games actually make money.
Re: Little Nightmares 3 Focuses on Co-Op Gameplay in Latest PS5, PS4 Trailer
@ThroughTheIris56 oh that sucks. Killed my hype immediately. Would've been fun to play with my brother.
Re: Capcom Debuts 1 Hour of Raw Monster Hunter Wilds Gameplay on PS5, Looks Outstanding
I liked World and Rise but they never really clicked for me especially since I'm a SP only gamer. I'm hesitant to again pay full price for another game in the series despite it looking promising. Maybe the reviews and hype nearer to launch will get me to buy it.
Re: Stellar Blade Dev Expects to Sell More Copies on PC Than PS5
I mean that's common sense? In China and Korea most people are PC gamers. This game will cater far more to the Asian audience in those regions.
Re: Little Nightmares 3 Focuses on Co-Op Gameplay in Latest PS5, PS4 Trailer
@ThroughTheIris56 I think the article mentions off line two player co-op.i hope that is true.
Re: The First Berserker: Khazan Hits PS5 Early 2025, Shows Real Promise in New Gameplay Trailer
It looks like another Nioh-like. Plus I'm really tired of Ben Starrs lack of range as a VA. It seems he's become the go to angry British VA. Hope he doesn't get pigeonholed and is given a more interesting job in the future.
Re: Unknown 9: Awakening's Release Date Now Known to Be October on PS5, PS4
What is wrong with devs? Even last year Sept-Nov was stacked and many games suffered. Why do they keep thinking they can launch then? I'm already screwed with Metaphor and Veilguard coming 2 weeks apart.
Oh and September has ASTRO at the beginning of the month and Zelda near the end of the month ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
Re: Xbox's Indiana Jones and the Great Circle Comes to PS5 in Spring 2025
@SleeplessKnight it reminds me of when Kojima said Death Stranding was coming to PC three days before the PS4 launch or something. It feels odd.
Re: Xbox's Indiana Jones and the Great Circle Comes to PS5 in Spring 2025
@GADG3Tx87 actually during the ABK trial, Bethesda docs showed that the deal had been amended with Disney to exclude Playstation. Even in Feb, Spencer said the game would remain on Xbox. This is a decision they made after Sea of Thieves I'm sure of it.
Re: Xbox's Indiana Jones and the Great Circle Comes to PS5 in Spring 2025
@starbuck2212 yup. Man may have some very silly opinions on things but LSM really is the best place for Playstation news and PS ecosystem news.
Re: 12 Major PS5, PS4 Games Leaving PS Plus, Including Horizon Forbidden West
@bindiana I mean one of the best rated games this year: Animal Well was day one too.
Re: 12 Major PS5, PS4 Games Leaving PS Plus, Including Horizon Forbidden West
@GymratAmarillo they replied to someone on Twitter saying this holiday period. I'm expecting November.
Re: 12 Major PS5, PS4 Games Leaving PS Plus, Including Horizon Forbidden West
@LowDefAl the leaks are fascinating when you ignore the Insomniac/Wolverine stuff (I'm getting the game, why spoil myself). From updated software sales, some of their internal thinking and they experiment a lot (Horizon on PS plus was one of them)
Re: 12 Major PS5, PS4 Games Leaving PS Plus, Including Horizon Forbidden West
Not surprised since HFW was used as a test case to see if a MS GP style approach to to PS exclusives soon after release on Plus was worth it. Ended up costing them a lot of revenue.
Source? Insomniac leaks
Also, HFW and Midnight Suns are on sale very often and are worth buying since they're high quality games that are best played at your own pace.
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Re: Rumour: Xbox's Indiana Jones Game Coming to PS5 in First Half 2025
@Chaosbros I was discussing it with my brother who has the Series S and he said the same thing. Neither Blade nor Indy are Spider-Man or Wolverine level IPs where people will go out of their way to get consoles.
Re: Hands On: Black Myth: Wukong Is Brilliant, But We Have PS5 Concerns
Sorry but I don't think you should've published this preview if A Dedicated Playstation Site didn't get Playstation code.
Or at least Specify this is a PC preview in the title itself. If this leads to a CP 2077 console situation it will make you guys look like silly.
Re: 15 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Announced for August 2024
@Don yes usually you can buy them separately (I think only one or two games have not been sold).
Re: Poll: Rate Your Favourite PS5 Roguelike Games
Returnal
Hades
God of War Ragnarok Valhalla
Re: Hi-Fi Rush Developer Tango Gameworks to Be 'Revived', Acquired By PUBG Publisher
I was happy until I read Kraftons name. They just recently made news for removing nearly three months of dev time for Callisto Protocol.
Re: More Spicy Helldivers 2 Drama as Freedom's Flame Backlash Boils Over
"Famously Passionate". Sorry bud but this community is FAMOUSLY TOXIC. But let Arrowhead suffer imo. They thought they were hot ***** when they sent review bombers to harass and review bomb other Sony games on PC.
Give PC gamers an inch and theyll take everything.
Re: Alan Wake 2 Still Hasn't Made Remedy Any Royalties, But Work Is Underway on Max Payne's PS5 Remakes
So a few issues:
1. Alan Wake being a decade old console exclusive release meaning a huge chunk of the audience won't care for a direct sequel.
2. Going the full survival horror route which hasn't really worked for any game in AAA that's not Resident Evil.
3. Gameplay just isn't very good imo despite enjoying the artistic choices, cutscenes and music. The game is slow, bosses suck, the mind palace is too limited.
4. Backtracking for the platinum sucks but this is a me problem lol.
5. A game you can watch on YouTube and have the full experience minus the bad part that is actually playing the game.
It is really weird that they made this when they had some of the best gameplay in Control and it's incredible movement. Night Springs was a step in the right direction. Leaning into the whackiness while also having less combat overall.
Re: Alan Wake 2 Still Hasn't Made Remedy Any Royalties, But Work Is Underway on Max Payne's PS5 Remakes
@IamJT sony q1 earnings showed full game sales are now 80% digital.
Re: GTA 6 Won't Be on Subs Like PS Plus at Launch Because Take-Two Makes 'Rational' Decisions
No games but experimental indies should be out day one on subs. Games like KunitsuGami and Animal Well make sense.
If any bigger game is on a sub day one I usually assume it's because the devs know they have a mediocre game and would rather take the upfront money instead of fighting it out in the market with a Metascore of 65-72.
Re: Dead Rising's PS5 Remaster Will Strip Bonus Points for Erotic Photos
@LordAinsley the trains in Hong Kong have to put ads reminding people not to do that and that it is a criminal offense.
Re: Dead Rising's PS5 Remaster Will Strip Bonus Points for Erotic Photos
@Thumper the difference is tone. In Bg3 it always consential between the player character and their romantic interest and the relationships are built with care.
Going around taking silly shots of Zombies is juvenile and nowhere near the same thing.
Re: Dead Rising's PS5 Remaster Will Strip Bonus Points for Erotic Photos
They've gone Sbi or Dei or woke or whatever. Time to make a 45 minute video on YouTube crying about this while selling Nord VPN subscriptions or something.
In all honesty, it's quite silly to remove this but I also understand they want to be a little more sensitive now that they're a big company and stuff like this will get discourse one way or another. Maybe it no longer reflects the feeling of the devs and team and they're embarrassed by the feature.
Re: It Took PS5 Longer Than PS4 to Pass 4 Million Units Milestone in the UK, But There's Context
@PsBoxSwitchOwner the amount we earn is nowhere near equal to the increase in prices for most products including games. CPI and inflation have gone far beyond the salary increases of the working class. Since 2022 most lower and lower-middle income british households have cut their spending and reallocated it to electricity bills and food.
Europe has been hit far worst than the rest of the world when it comes to inflation.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Won't Let You Control Companion Characters
I think I used the other characters in ME1 because they were so dumb and Dragon fights In Inquisition because of how long those fights were. Otherwise I only command them in the tutorial then forget they exist the rest of the time.
Re: Pour One Out for PS4 Exclusive WiLD, No Longer in Active Development
This is why you don't announce things until you're sure it's ready. It's sad but game development is difficult.
Re: Bungie to Reveal the Future of Destiny and Its Next Multi-Year Journey Soon
Playstation is taking over the Backend and it was done for cost restructuring. Sony is taking more direct control of Bungie and there will more focus on Destiny and Marathon development (no more incubation).
Source: financial call yesterday. First question asked to Hiroki Totoki.
Re: Black Myth: Wukong Builds the Hype with Stunning Final Trailer
@PsBoxSwitchOwner the last time Playstation had an unintented exclusive was Bg3 which was a easy game of the year. So maybe they're going two for two this year 😅
Re: Black Myth: Wukong Builds the Hype with Stunning Final Trailer
@Intr1n5ic oh that sucks. I'm usually mixed on Obsidians games but I always respect their commitment to making interesting worlds. Oh well the December time frame now looks more likely for Black myth.
Re: Black Myth: Wukong Builds the Hype with Stunning Final Trailer
Definitely interested in this but it will have to wait. Next month has ASTRO and Zelda and October has Metaphor and November probably has The Veilguard. In between all of that is Indy and Avowed. This game will probably only be given serious consideration by December end or Jan.
Re: PS5 Sales Reach 60 Million Milestone, Now at 61.7 Million Consoles Sold
@LowDefAl I agree. But I think they could try leaning into looking a little less corporate. I don't know how to explain it. Maybe just have a little more of a presence. I think the tv/movie stuff is helping with that. Otherwise I actually prefer this 'keep you cards close to your chest approach'
Re: PS5 Sales Reach 60 Million Milestone, Now at 61.7 Million Consoles Sold
@AdamNovice also, Sonys big games are supposed to start dropping next year onwards as per their previous financial calls. This year feels like a gap year after 2022 and 2023 had so many big releases.
Re: PS5 Sales Reach 60 Million Milestone, Now at 61.7 Million Consoles Sold
Mochizuki has always been pessimistic on Sony so I'm not surprised.
Personally I think being behind to the ps4 by 1.8million units while being in a recession period, having covid shortages and having a price Increase while already being more expensive is actually stronger than I expected. I don't think it'll beat the PS4 lifetime but I also never expected it to because the covid bump was false growth (I don't think the Switch 2 will hit the Switch 1 numbers either).
People forget that The PS2 was also bolstered by extremely strong third parties mixed with First party software.
I do think two areas Sony need to improve on is building hype (TGS may bring this back) and mixing more smaller AA games from younger teams (miles morales type) to keep the first party looking strong.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth PS5 Sales Still a Secret as Square Enix Reports Year-on-Year Decline
@somnambulance I think Metaphor and ASTRO stand a good chance. Otherwise I think Balatro is it's biggest competition this year so far.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth PS5 Sales Still a Secret as Square Enix Reports Year-on-Year Decline
Regarding the sales of Rebirth I'm not surprised.
Releasing in a crowded JRPG schedule fighting for the same group of players is bound to hurt it. Especially with Squares inflated judgment of sales success.
It doesn't help that they're comparing a pandemic launch at the end of the console lifecycle to a mid gen console within a time of economic messes and high inflation.
The extremely high budget and divisive nature of the game doesn't help either. Most people would wait for the third game to buy the triplet package if they were smart too.
Square going aggressively multiplatform won't give them the success they hope for until they reduce budgets heavily. The PC market mostly buys games on sale/cheaper based of basic reading and research, the Switch 2 could have potential but I don't honestly see it being more than another mil or 2 units.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth PS5 Sales Still a Secret as Square Enix Reports Year-on-Year Decline
@NEStalgia that's not true. Nintendos success in software is almost completely first party software. Third party support while better than before (especially for indies) is still not very strong. They recently hired a former Playstation man to help them get more third party support.
Re: Yep, Filming Is Underway for the Until Dawn Movie
Keep the budget under 20 mil like Neon/A24 and it'll have good chances of success.
Re: Silent Hill 2 Remake Dev Asks Fans to Give It 'a Chance'
I don't think a lot of players will have issues unless it is really broken but games media and online buzz will likely be overwhelmingly negative given Bloober and Konami's reputation.
Personally it doesn't appeal to me but I've always thought SH was overrated but had great creature and atmospheric design.
Re: PS Plus Essential Has 3 More PS5, PS4 Games to Download Now
It is a good list of games not aimed towards the 40-50 year Olds who frequent this site.