The PS5 selling out was a problem for a whole lot of gamers. Those were a rough couple of years! We don't have that problem with the PS5 Pro.
Maybe Sony learned their lesson and was able to produce enough consoles this time? They're in this to make as much money as possible. It seems like intentionally selling out would be leaving money on the table.
I was very disappointed by the price, but after looking into building a PC, I've come to realize that it would cost significantly more to build a worthwhile PC that beats it. Add PC problems like occasional mysterious troubleshooting and waiting two years for certain PlayStation games (often among the year's best games) and I've come to accept that I'll probably just buy the PS5 Pro.
I won't lie, if I had more money, I would go with the PC, or better yet, get the PS5 Pro AND a PC! But as it is, the PS5 Pro is affordable for me, while a good updatable PC is slightly out of my desired price range.
Tried it for a couple of hours tonight and honestly I don't understand the 8's this game is getting. It feels like the game is targeted at kindergarteners. The combat is ridiculously easy and simple, and the puzzles take very little thought with solutions sometimes signposted. The writing actually pales in comparison to the average picture book.
I guess this would be good to play with your kids, but for adults, no thanks! I was looking forward to this game so I'm pretty disappointed after playing it.
It's like a 5 or 6 out of 10 for me. Not recommended for adult players!
Personally I wouldn't give it a 10 but it's definitely a good game. It makes you wish Nintendo would use this kind of technology for the next Mario game instead of always being a generation behind!
So it launches 8 days after PS5 Pro and is PS5 Pro enhanced. Can't imagine why they didn't try to sell this as a killer launch title. Missed opportunity!
I was looking forward to the PS5 Pro and may still get one, but in addition to the higher than expected price I think they really blew the presentation. They didn't show a single game that I haven't played, and The Last of Us 2 was already a rerelease of a PS4 game.
Furthermore, at 9 minutes, the presentation was way too short. I would have preferred a big 30 minute presentation detailing everything the PS5 Pro can do with more gameplay examples.
As it is it's very hard to get excited about the PS5 Pro. I'm seriously considering getting my first gaming PC instead but in reality you're still doing good to get 4K 60 FPS even with double the PC budget. I guess getting used to high quality 60 FPS at the beginning of the generation was setting us up for disappointment!
I bought the game at launch and the stealth and two lockpicking/hacking minigames are the worst parts of the game. If they took out those elements (and they COULD just take them out) then the game would gain one full review point at least.
I actually think people would react much more favorably to the game if they didn't have those negative points to latch onto.
Awful decision-making to go live with this but cancel the Last of Us multiplayer game. Hopefully PS5 top brass can realign with what gamers actually want and not make mistakes like this again.
Oh man, I could have sworn that this was happening but thought I was just running out of stamina or something!!! Good (and highly disappointing) to know that this is a real thing with an identifiable cause. Kind of annoying considering that this problem makes an already very difficult game even MORE difficult to play! :'-(
Talking about difficulty is one thing, but it has to be acknowledged that Elden Ring is EASILY one of the best games of this generation (I'd put it at #1) and it is probably one of the best video games ever made (I'd say so). This is partly due to the difficulty, not in spite of it.
I don't second guess masterpieces. Elden Ring is perfection. I pity gamers who miss it.
Welp. It was great while it lasted. RIP Helldivers 2!
It was easily the most fun game of this generation, but I can't blame anyone for uninstalling and never playing it again. Sadly this one is going to go the way of the dodo.
This game went viral like Pal World. I bought it and played it and it was pretty good but honestly not as good as Final Fantasy Rebirth or Stellar Blade. Just goes to show how little reviews and game quality matter compared to Tik Tok and social media.
Surprised to see this game getting user scores this high. While I have no problem with the frame rate or the completely optional microtransactions, I just don't feel that this game is up to the level of polish we normally associate with 9's and 10's. With low enemy variety, seemingly random enemy placement, and low quality writing, I didn't even feel that this game is as good as a typical 8.
I bought the game on release day and enjoyed it for about 15 hours before getting annoyed with it and leaving to play Hollow Knight again. I voted 6/10. ::shrug::
This game got vastly overrated by critics and I don't even understand why. After 20 hours, I can say it has LOADS of half-baked features and "why?" aspects to the so called design. Art design is boring, writing is poor, action is shallow, pawns are annoying and repetitive, and so on, and so on, and so on...
This is not a 9/10 game- not by a longshot. I play just about every major release and to me this is a 6/10 game. Are reviewers being paid by Capcom, or what?
gotta go with Graphics Mode for this one. The blurry Perfomance Mode resolution looks terrible on a 4K TV. Probably doesn't look great on a 1080p TV, either. Fortunately, 30 FPS mode looks great and is totally playable!
I know people will think this is heresy, but if you play in the 30 FPS mode you stop noticing the framerate in about five minutes. Resolution looks great and the graphics look incredible. Console gamers have been playing games in 30 FPS for years and never thought to complain until this generation. 30 FPS looks just as good on this game as it ever did. Just give it about five minutes and you'll be fine.
@BusyOlf Yeah I just finished my third playthrough and it's a 6.5/10 for me. It's an average game, no better no worse. Actually dreading my fourth playthrough- the game gets old FAST
This game is overrated. Even aside from the awful shimmering and visual bugs, the game is just not that fun in terms of gameplay. The story is good and it's got some novel ideas, but at no point does this feel better than Spider-Man 2, for example.
Wandering around in the dark getting jump scares while lost. That's the game in a nutshell.
People are talking about how this is the best looking game of this generation and I'm just looking at shimmering white stuff where it doesn't belong looking like garbage. Hope they patched that out!
Not a 10/10 for me. I had more fun with Spider-Man 2.
Would be the game of the year for me if the game had launched in this condition in 2023. I think it's one of the best games of this generation and possibly one of the best games ever made. It's absolutely fantastic!
BTW, I'm playing on Very Hard now and its Very Hard mode is probably the best implementation of a higher difficulty level that I've ever seen. Would definitely recommend trying it!
@Bentleyma I just played this section last night. Make sure you're zooming in on the sniper rifle, look around, and you should find things that you can scan. I think you have to be zoomed in to scan.
I've been playing the game and I have to agree with one of the other commentors here that this is now one of the best games ever made. Considering that it was unplayable at release, I would say that it's fair to call this a comeback or redemption story!
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Re: How to Pre-Order PS5 Pro
$700 aint s*%# to me! Do all of you work at Burger King? I'm an adult and I have a job!
Day one baby!
Re: Star Wars Outlaws' Rescue Roadmap Provides a Snapshot of Modern PS5 Gaming
That's trash. Just release the finished game on the first go. Why should we need to wait months after release for "stealth and combat improvements?"
Not every game can be Cyberpunk or No Man's Sky. For Star Wars Outlaws this is too little too late!
Re: Hideo Kojima's Dream of Breaking into Hollywood Is Nearly a Reality
I love Kojima, but I don't need him to be a film director. He's already one of the very best video game creators. Why leave that behind?
Re: Bickering Begins Over PS5 Pro's Inability to Sell Out
The PS5 selling out was a problem for a whole lot of gamers. Those were a rough couple of years! We don't have that problem with the PS5 Pro.
Maybe Sony learned their lesson and was able to produce enough consoles this time? They're in this to make as much money as possible. It seems like intentionally selling out would be leaving money on the table.
Re: Vince Zampella Defends PS5 Pro Price, Says 'It's Actually Not That Bad'
I was very disappointed by the price, but after looking into building a PC, I've come to realize that it would cost significantly more to build a worthwhile PC that beats it. Add PC problems like occasional mysterious troubleshooting and waiting two years for certain PlayStation games (often among the year's best games) and I've come to accept that I'll probably just buy the PS5 Pro.
I won't lie, if I had more money, I would go with the PC, or better yet, get the PS5 Pro AND a PC! But as it is, the PS5 Pro is affordable for me, while a good updatable PC is slightly out of my desired price range.
Re: The Plucky Squire (PS5) - Joyful, Inventive Adventure on Every Page of PS Plus Gem
Tried it for a couple of hours tonight and honestly I don't understand the 8's this game is getting. It feels like the game is targeted at kindergarteners. The combat is ridiculously easy and simple, and the puzzles take very little thought with solutions sometimes signposted. The writing actually pales in comparison to the average picture book.
I guess this would be good to play with your kids, but for adults, no thanks! I was looking forward to this game so I'm pretty disappointed after playing it.
It's like a 5 or 6 out of 10 for me. Not recommended for adult players!
Re: Filming on Ubisoft's Watch Dogs Movie Has Wrapped
Why would you make a movie out of an unpopular game? Does anybody want this?????
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Astro Bot?
Personally I wouldn't give it a 10 but it's definitely a good game. It makes you wish Nintendo would use this kind of technology for the next Mario game instead of always being a generation behind!
Re: State of Play Rumoured for This Month As Sony Looks Set to Skip PS Showcase in 2024
So the showcase will be right before PS5 Pro preorders open. Hopefully they'll make a better case for the PS5 Pro during the event!
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows' Japan Looks Stunning in New Open World Showcase
So it launches 8 days after PS5 Pro and is PS5 Pro enhanced. Can't imagine why they didn't try to sell this as a killer launch title. Missed opportunity!
Re: Poll: Would You Buy PS5 Pro If It Was Cheaper?
I was looking forward to the PS5 Pro and may still get one, but in addition to the higher than expected price I think they really blew the presentation. They didn't show a single game that I haven't played, and The Last of Us 2 was already a rerelease of a PS4 game.
Furthermore, at 9 minutes, the presentation was way too short. I would have preferred a big 30 minute presentation detailing everything the PS5 Pro can do with more gameplay examples.
As it is it's very hard to get excited about the PS5 Pro. I'm seriously considering getting my first gaming PC instead but in reality you're still doing good to get 4K 60 FPS even with double the PC budget. I guess getting used to high quality 60 FPS at the beginning of the generation was setting us up for disappointment!
Re: Star Wars Outlaws' Instant Fail Stealth Sections Will Be Reworked in Upcoming PS5 Patch
I bought the game at launch and the stealth and two lockpicking/hacking minigames are the worst parts of the game. If they took out those elements (and they COULD just take them out) then the game would gain one full review point at least.
I actually think people would react much more favorably to the game if they didn't have those negative points to latch onto.
Re: PS5 Pro Showcase Set for Tomorrow, Hosted by Mark Cerny
Day one purchase for me! Hope it doesn't sell out on day one...
I'll be watching this tomorrow first thing after work!
Re: Mini Review: Shadow of the Ninja Reborn (PS5) - Lovingly Restored Classic Shinobi Action
Owl "bee" picking this up!!!
Re: Concord PS5, PC Sales Estimates Are Somehow Even Worse Than We Thought
Awful decision-making to go live with this but cancel the Last of Us multiplayer game. Hopefully PS5 top brass can realign with what gamers actually want and not make mistakes like this again.
Re: Black Myth: Wukong Is Eating Your Inputs on PS5, and It's a Problem with Performance Mode
Oh man, I could have sworn that this was happening but thought I was just running out of stamina or something!!! Good (and highly disappointing) to know that this is a real thing with an identifiable cause. Kind of annoying considering that this problem makes an already very difficult game even MORE difficult to play! :'-(
Re: Poll: Are You Hyped for Gamescom 2024?
I hope Geoff has some Doritos!
Re: Poll: Can a Game's Brutal Difficultly Put You Off Playing It?
Talking about difficulty is one thing, but it has to be acknowledged that Elden Ring is EASILY one of the best games of this generation (I'd put it at #1) and it is probably one of the best video games ever made (I'd say so). This is partly due to the difficulty, not in spite of it.
I don't second guess masterpieces. Elden Ring is perfection. I pity gamers who miss it.
Re: Tango Gameworks Employees Treated to Pizza Party as Studio Officially Closes Doors
Glad to hear they got a pizza party. There is still some good in the world!
Re: Helldivers 2 PC Is Getting Review Bombed Over PSN Requirement
Welp. It was great while it lasted. RIP Helldivers 2!
It was easily the most fun game of this generation, but I can't blame anyone for uninstalling and never playing it again. Sadly this one is going to go the way of the dodo.
Re: Helldivers 2 Is Already One of Sony's Best-Ever Sellers in the US
This game went viral like Pal World. I bought it and played it and it was pretty good but honestly not as good as Final Fantasy Rebirth or Stellar Blade. Just goes to show how little reviews and game quality matter compared to Tik Tok and social media.
Re: Helldivers 2 PC Players Blindsided by Seemingly Sudden PSN Account Requirement
Welp. That's the end of that game. It was fun while it lasted!
Re: Stellar Blade's PS5 User Score Keeps Getting Higher and Higher
The game is fantastic. Story isn't much, but the gameplay is top notch! That's all we really need.
Re: Random: I Met My Favourite Korean Cheerleader Because of Eve and Stellar Blade
For my money, she's the BEST Korean cheerleader
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Fallout 4's Next-Gen Version?
38% of readers are playing the Fallout 4 upgrade? Why do I get the idea that these polls are fake?
Re: Mega Man Collab Brings Exoprimal Back to Life Later This Month
The game was hot garbage and it was forgotten a week after release. Push Square dropped the ball when they gave this a good review.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Dragon's Dogma 2?
Surprised to see this game getting user scores this high. While I have no problem with the frame rate or the completely optional microtransactions, I just don't feel that this game is up to the level of polish we normally associate with 9's and 10's. With low enemy variety, seemingly random enemy placement, and low quality writing, I didn't even feel that this game is as good as a typical 8.
I bought the game on release day and enjoyed it for about 15 hours before getting annoyed with it and leaving to play Hollow Knight again. I voted 6/10. ::shrug::
Re: Not Everyone Is in Love with Dragon's Dogma 2 on PS5
This game got vastly overrated by critics and I don't even understand why. After 20 hours, I can say it has LOADS of half-baked features and "why?" aspects to the so called design. Art design is boring, writing is poor, action is shallow, pawns are annoying and repetitive, and so on, and so on, and so on...
This is not a 9/10 game- not by a longshot. I play just about every major release and to me this is a 6/10 game. Are reviewers being paid by Capcom, or what?
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth's PS5 Graphics Enhanced, Here Are the Patch Notes
gotta go with Graphics Mode for this one. The blurry Perfomance Mode resolution looks terrible on a 4K TV. Probably doesn't look great on a 1080p TV, either. Fortunately, 30 FPS mode looks great and is totally playable!
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Is Getting Another Patch to Improve Performance Mode
I know people will think this is heresy, but if you play in the 30 FPS mode you stop noticing the framerate in about five minutes. Resolution looks great and the graphics look incredible. Console gamers have been playing games in 30 FPS for years and never thought to complain until this generation. 30 FPS looks just as good on this game as it ever did. Just give it about five minutes and you'll be fine.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077's New Patch Aiming to Release Next Week
@BusyOlf Yeah I just finished my third playthrough and it's a 6.5/10 for me. It's an average game, no better no worse. Actually dreading my fourth playthrough- the game gets old FAST
Re: GTA Online Is Finally Letting Animals Run Wild on PS5
@HotGoomba exactly. You know GTA 6 is just going to be GTA 5 with animals. SMH
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Like a Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His Name?
I have a hard time believing that 28% of people polled have played every Yakuza game. Are these polls fake, or what?
Re: Well-Received Souls-Like Lords of the Fallen Tops 1 Million Sales
@Constable_What I'll probably go back for one more playthrough
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Alan Wake 2?
This game is overrated. Even aside from the awful shimmering and visual bugs, the game is just not that fun in terms of gameplay. The story is good and it's got some novel ideas, but at no point does this feel better than Spider-Man 2, for example.
Wandering around in the dark getting jump scares while lost. That's the game in a nutshell.
7/10
Re: Latest Alan Wake 2 PS5 Patch Applies 200+ Fixes
People are talking about how this is the best looking game of this generation and I'm just looking at shimmering white stuff where it doesn't belong looking like garbage. Hope they patched that out!
Not a 10/10 for me. I had more fun with Spider-Man 2.
Re: Poll: Do You Like Metal Gear Solid Delta's New Graphical Style?
Looks amazing, but those look like PC graphics, not PS5 graphics. I could be wrong but I doubt it!
Re: Alan Wake 2's New Game Plus Mode Dreams Up 'Alternative Narrative', Nightmare Difficulty
Who else suspects they'll release this one as "Alan More Awake?"
Re: Veteran PlayStation Exec Connie Booth Officially Exits the Firm
From now on it will be known at "the Booth era" and the "post-Booth era"
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 500
Happy 500! It almost feels like it should be 600 to me.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Release Marred By Physical Installation Issues
Installed from disc without even a WHISPER of a problem! Easy peasy lemon squeezy!
Re: Well-Received Souls-Like Lords of the Fallen Tops 1 Million Sales
@Constable_What Yeah I just finished NG++ and I absolutely LOATHED playing this game! Very unfun experience would not recommend!
Re: Hotline Miami Collection Brings Both Games to PS5, Available Now
Oh man, loved this game on PS3 and PS4. Can't wait to see what the PS5 version has to offer!
Re: PS5 Game Empire of the Ants Will Be Riddled with Bugs
Sorry, but I am so sick of games launching with bugs! I'll be sitting this one out.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty?
Would be the game of the year for me if the game had launched in this condition in 2023. I think it's one of the best games of this generation and possibly one of the best games ever made. It's absolutely fantastic!
BTW, I'm playing on Very Hard now and its Very Hard mode is probably the best implementation of a higher difficulty level that I've ever seen. Would definitely recommend trying it!
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty?
@Bentleyma I just played this section last night. Make sure you're zooming in on the sniper rifle, look around, and you should find things that you can scan. I think you have to be zoomed in to scan.
Re: The Last of Us Multiplayer's Microtransactions Man Has Left Naughty Dog
I was looking forward to this game. Sad that they're not going to finish it!
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Sales Top a Staggering 25 Million as Phantom Liberty Hits 3 Million in a Week
I've been playing the game and I have to agree with one of the other commentors here that this is now one of the best games ever made. Considering that it was unplayable at release, I would say that it's fair to call this a comeback or redemption story!
Re: Lies of P (PS5) - No Fibs Found in This Souls-Like Great
Most reviewers have been lying about how much they like this game as some sort of sick meta joke. Only puppets are truly enjoying the game! SMH
Re: Epic Games Laying Off Almost 900 Employees, Fall Guys Dev Hit Hard
My guess is they're trying to make some sort of joke, like "Fall Guys developers are 'falling off' the payroll." Typical corpo humor. SMH!