Reading through these comments is like having a cross-section of the most toxic examples of why PC gamers can’t stand stereotypical console gamers and vice versa.
munches popcorn and enjoys the show
That said, I think it should be optional. I see no reason to lock a single player campaign behind that requirement. I know, I’m being controversial and unreasonable!
As someone else said, Sony needs to start focusing on quality smaller experiences and make NEW ones. I’m playing through all the Halo games for the first time ever on my quite nicely backwards compatible Series X, and marveling at how well these games (mostly) hold up. The campaigns are very well done, don't overstay their welcome, and ALMOST make me wish I’d have picked up some model of XBox years ago.
Obviously MS/Bungie of today is different than MS/Bungie of years past glares at the upcoming Marathon game but dang. It’s like MS and Sony are competing to see which one can slough off more customer goodwill in a short time with these remasters for Sony and MS’s braindead decisions in recent years.
That said…bring on the hopefully backwards compatible Switch 2! And maybe someday Bloodborne at 60fps!
The Nintendo situation is quite different. The Wii U was a commercial failure and a ton of amazing games were locked into that system. The big N gets a total pass there from me, especially if they finally port Xenoblade Chronicles X to the Switch!
Sony however…when the PS4 version exists AND CAN BE PLAYED on the PS5 with or without a 60fps patch, AND is readily available, it becomes far harder to swallow.
If they were porting PS3 games that hadn’t been updated for PS4, then it’d be one thing since Sony skipped out on BC due to intentionally making the PS3 hard to develop for. (Great job, Sony. That worked out well.) Or if they released a PS5 native Bloodborne that actually ran at 60fps (since Sony apparently can’t be bothered to patch the PS4 version as folks have BEGGED FOR for years) that would again be a different thing.
Remastering Horizon Zero Dawn for PS5 and actually charging money for it? Nope. Same with Days Gone and other perfectly excellently performing PS4 games and expecting gamers to cough up money because OMG PS5!!!
I’m really feeling my inner crotchety old man coming out right now.
@Max_the_German Again, nothing really to do with this article. Plus, it isn’t hard to determine which games need PS Plus for multiplayer, they literally say in the game description “PS Plus required for online play.”
@thefourfoldroot1 Not for me, I’ve got a PS5, Switch and Series X. I’ve spent enough money on gaming hardware the last few years, I don’t need to add more to the pile. Especially since I’d only play maybe three games using it. For those who like it tho, I’m sure it would be worth the purchase!
So apparently Astro Bot Rescue Mission sold 204,546 digital copies total, after some quick googling. Might have gone up slightly but around there.
I suspect this Astro Bot game utterly demolished that number in a week.
@thefourfoldroot1 The cost is exactly why I will never be part of that community, sadly! If I won’t drop $699 on a PS5 Pro, I sure as hell won’t spend nearly that much on a peripheral.
@thefourfoldroot1 I sincerely doubt this would sell anywhere near that many. You could very well be correct, but I just don’t see it. Maybe a few thousand, but nowhere near the number you think.
@dreadpirateflappy You can play Peace Walker on a 360, XBox One, Series S or Series X right now. It’s easily purchasable on the Xbox store, I snagged it digitally this weekend.
“It could be argued this increased storage space helps alleviate the concerns caused by the lack of an included Ultra HD disc drive”
It could be, but it’d be a really weak argument. Plus a 2 TB expansion card isn’t overly expensive these days. Certainly cheaper than buying a freaking PS5 Pro.
‘"It's certainly sold more copies in the UK in just two days than Concord sold worldwide," he concludes.’
Such a perfect quote. Future devs can know that no matter how bad your game sells, as long as you do better than Concord…
That said, Astro Bot is a freaking masterpiece, and I loved every moment of my playtime with it. Nowhere near getting all the bots and puzzle pieces, but I finished the story and will pick it up again in a few weeks so I can begin the hunt for them once more.
@Maubari Ick. I already have one of those accounts because of Hogwarts Legacy, but that fact makes me really want to just…finish other games before actually trying this one after all. Thanks for that heads up!
Back to either Halo 2 or Pacific Drive, I guess! Just finished Astro Bot a little bit ago, waiting a little bit before I attack the platinum down the road!
@dardel I don’t see comments like that for this article so far, which means the block function works well on this site! I’ve weeded out the particularly vitriolic names over time.
That said, I’ve been pleasantly surprised with the reception for this title so far. I hope folks have fun with it, I need to give it a shot once I’m done with Astro Bot.
Live service games depend on an internet connection while playing, for one. Nether Playroom or Astro Bot require this.
This article is a major reach. You might as well say that the packs of items you gradually get from a couple of Yakuza games after launch is “live service” too.
Hell, using this asinine definition, you could say friggin CYBERPUNK 2077 is a live service game because it released in a broken state and got updates to make it, you know, work properly. The original Wolfenstein 3D shareware back in the day was a “live service” game because of the additional episodes.
Astro’s Playroom is simply a game that got updated to add benefits to another single player game. Zero comparison.
Not their fault a game they covered ended up being a complete and abject failure. Might as well present it, if only as a memorial to millions of dollars wasted.
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Re: Your Horizon Zero Dawn PS4 Progress Will Transition to PS5 Remaster
I freely admit I figured this would be a lazy “now it runs natively with no real improvement!” thing.
I…stand corrected.
Re: BioWare Battles Dragons in Lengthy Dragon Age: The Veilguard Mage Gameplay
@30fps60fps Modern Bioware, sadly.
Re: BioWare Battles Dragons in Lengthy Dragon Age: The Veilguard Mage Gameplay
Am I the only one who thought the cutscenes actually looked worse than the actual gameplay graphics?
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for October 2024 Announced
This is an excellent slate of games. Doki Doki is…Doki Doki and that’s all you need to know.
Re: Ghost of Yotei Is the Ghost of Tsushima Sequel We Needed, Slashing to PS5 in 2025
I am on board for this.
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered PS5 Is Official, Out 31st October with $10 PS4 to PS5 Upgrade
…I’m quietly hopeful this will be worth the money. Wonder if they’ll do a physical PS5 release.
Re: Don't Nod 'Disappointed' by Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden, Jusant Sales
I’ve genuinely never heard of either of these games.
Re: God of War Ragnarok PC Review Bombed Over PSN Requirement
Wow.
Reading through these comments is like having a cross-section of the most toxic examples of why PC gamers can’t stand stereotypical console gamers and vice versa.
munches popcorn and enjoys the show
That said, I think it should be optional. I see no reason to lock a single player campaign behind that requirement. I know, I’m being controversial and unreasonable!
Re: Annapurna Says Blade Runner 2033: Labyrinth Still Happening Despite Entire Dev Team's Departure
“We don’t currently have anyone to actually MAKE the game right now, but rest assured it’ll get made!”
Re: Final Fantasy 16's Outstanding Soundtrack Finally Available on Music Streaming Services
@LowDefAl I love that “beat cancer” part, too! Might not have happened concurrently but it tried to take him out AND IT FAILED.
Re: Retro PS2 TimeSplitters Titles Outperform PS5, PC Flop Concord in UK Charts
I mean…I’m pretty sure ANYTHING has outperformed Concord at this point. Even the Borderlands movie was probably more of a net success.
Re: Reaction: Why There Are So Many Unnecessary PS5 Remasters for Games That Don't Need Them
@tabris95 Agreed.
As someone else said, Sony needs to start focusing on quality smaller experiences and make NEW ones. I’m playing through all the Halo games for the first time ever on my quite nicely backwards compatible Series X, and marveling at how well these games (mostly) hold up. The campaigns are very well done, don't overstay their welcome, and ALMOST make me wish I’d have picked up some model of XBox years ago.
Obviously MS/Bungie of today is different than MS/Bungie of years past glares at the upcoming Marathon game but dang. It’s like MS and Sony are competing to see which one can slough off more customer goodwill in a short time with these remasters for Sony and MS’s braindead decisions in recent years.
That said…bring on the hopefully backwards compatible Switch 2! And maybe someday Bloodborne at 60fps!
Re: Reaction: Why There Are So Many Unnecessary PS5 Remasters for Games That Don't Need Them
The Nintendo situation is quite different. The Wii U was a commercial failure and a ton of amazing games were locked into that system. The big N gets a total pass there from me, especially if they finally port Xenoblade Chronicles X to the Switch!
Sony however…when the PS4 version exists AND CAN BE PLAYED on the PS5 with or without a 60fps patch, AND is readily available, it becomes far harder to swallow.
If they were porting PS3 games that hadn’t been updated for PS4, then it’d be one thing since Sony skipped out on BC due to intentionally making the PS3 hard to develop for. (Great job, Sony. That worked out well.) Or if they released a PS5 native Bloodborne that actually ran at 60fps (since Sony apparently can’t be bothered to patch the PS4 version as folks have BEGGED FOR for years) that would again be a different thing.
Remastering Horizon Zero Dawn for PS5 and actually charging money for it? Nope. Same with Days Gone and other perfectly excellently performing PS4 games and expecting gamers to cough up money because OMG PS5!!!
I’m really feeling my inner crotchety old man coming out right now.
Re: Rumour: Days Gone PS5 Remaster Speculation Starts to Spread
I look forward to him going on an incoherent rant decrying Sony for daring to release a PS5 version.
Re: PS Plus Members Get Hundreds of PS5, PS4 Discounts in New PS Store Sale
@Max_the_German Again, nothing really to do with this article. Plus, it isn’t hard to determine which games need PS Plus for multiplayer, they literally say in the game description “PS Plus required for online play.”
Re: PS Plus Members Get Hundreds of PS5, PS4 Discounts in New PS Store Sale
@Max_the_German …okay? Has nothing to do with this article.
Re: Sony Pulled Bungie's Head Out of Its Ass, and an Ex-Lawyer Reckons That Was a Good Thing
@TheDaddyOtaku A-freaking-men.
A modern Marathon (not in-name-only that we’re sadly getting) would be amazing.
Re: Yoshi-P Pleads for Modder Restraint Ahead of Final Fantasy 16 PC Launch
@AdamNovice I mean…that’s the very definition of a mod.
Re: PS5's Astro Bot the USA's Second Best-Selling Game in Its First Week
@thefourfoldroot1 Not for me, I’ve got a PS5, Switch and Series X. I’ve spent enough money on gaming hardware the last few years, I don’t need to add more to the pile. Especially since I’d only play maybe three games using it. For those who like it tho, I’m sure it would be worth the purchase!
Re: PS5's Astro Bot the USA's Second Best-Selling Game in Its First Week
So apparently Astro Bot Rescue Mission sold 204,546 digital copies total, after some quick googling. Might have gone up slightly but around there.
I suspect this Astro Bot game utterly demolished that number in a week.
@thefourfoldroot1 The cost is exactly why I will never be part of that community, sadly! If I won’t drop $699 on a PS5 Pro, I sure as hell won’t spend nearly that much on a peripheral.
Re: PS5's Astro Bot the USA's Second Best-Selling Game in Its First Week
@thefourfoldroot1 I sincerely doubt this would sell anywhere near that many. You could very well be correct, but I just don’t see it. Maybe a few thousand, but nowhere near the number you think.
Re: PS5's Astro Bot the USA's Second Best-Selling Game in Its First Week
@thefourfoldroot1 Bold of you to assume there’s that many PSVR2 active users!
Re: Pacific Drive's Latest PS5 Update Lets You Tinker with Wide Range of Difficulty Options
I just started playing this game a little while ago, and this seems like a very good addition.
Re: Filming on Ubisoft's Watch Dogs Movie Has Wrapped
I mean, it can’t be a worse movie than Borderlands, right?
…right?
Re: You Can't Buy Concord on PS5, PC Anymore, But You Can Buy the Official Merch
Utterly basic merch for an utterly forgettable game and a massive debacle.
Sounds about par for the course where this game is concerned.
Re: MGS: Master Collection Vol. 2 Is in the Works, But Games Not Decided Yet
@bestuardo Yup. I got that as well in the last sale.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Astro Bot Barely Registers at Retail, PS5 Numbers Plummet After Price Hike
@get2sammyb At least Sony can tell themselves, “Hey, console sales here are low, but we’re not XBOX IN JAPAN low!”
Re: PAYDAY 3 Creative Lead 'Stepping Away', PAYDAY 2 Remains Much More Popular
If I were to buy a heist game at this moment in time..It’d be that Crime Boss game. If I were to buy a heist game. Which I probably wouldn’t.
After the previous Payday debacles, I honestly have no intention of touching any of this series.
Re: Poll: Would You Buy PS5 Pro If It Was Cheaper?
If it had the disc drive, I would ALMOST think it might be worth it.
But $699 plus another $80? Hell to the no.
Re: 1,700 PS5, PS4 Games Going Cheap in Latest PS Store Sale
$41.99 for the MGS Master Collection, discounted.
glances at the disc copy purchased for $19.99
WHAT A SALE
Re: Arrowhead Offers Peek at Helldivers 2 Patch Meant to Satisfy the Masses
@Xbox_Dashboard The article says it’s getting a damage boost.
Re: MGS: Master Collection Vol. 2 Is in the Works, But Games Not Decided Yet
@dreadpirateflappy You can play Peace Walker on a 360, XBox One, Series S or Series X right now. It’s easily purchasable on the Xbox store, I snagged it digitally this weekend.
Re: In Case You Missed It, PS5 Pro Has a 2TB SSD Included
“It could be argued this increased storage space helps alleviate the concerns caused by the lack of an included Ultra HD disc drive”
It could be, but it’d be a really weak argument. Plus a 2 TB expansion card isn’t overly expensive these days. Certainly cheaper than buying a freaking PS5 Pro.
Re: Talking Point: Is PS5 Pro Way Too Expensive?
I’d be slightly more kindly disposed to it if the price included a blu-ray drive.
That lack makes this price stupidly hilarious.
Re: Freelance Artist Attempts to Redesign PS5, PC Flop Concord's Cast
Firewalk should have hired this person.
Re: Don't Worry, You Can Add an Ultra HD Disc Drive to PS5 Pro
“Don’t worry, you can spend another $79.99 plus tax on top of that $699 plus tax to make your Pro as capable as your original PS5!”
Oh, I wasn’t worried. I’ll just not spend the $699 in the first place!
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
$700 with no optical drive included?
Wow. No thank you.
Re: Astro Bot PS5 Sales 'Aren't Huge' in UK, But There's Still Hope
‘"It's certainly sold more copies in the UK in just two days than Concord sold worldwide," he concludes.’
Such a perfect quote. Future devs can know that no matter how bad your game sells, as long as you do better than Concord…
That said, Astro Bot is a freaking masterpiece, and I loved every moment of my playtime with it. Nowhere near getting all the bots and puzzle pieces, but I finished the story and will pick it up again in a few weeks so I can begin the hunt for them once more.
Re: Ubisoft Investor Calls for Company to Go Private, and CEO Yves Guillemot to Be Replaced
@PuppetMaster CzarCastik would be proud!
Re: Ubisoft Investor Calls for Company to Go Private, and CEO Yves Guillemot to Be Replaced
As the brilliant Jeremy Clarkson once said: “Oh no! Anyway…”
It’s rather staggering that I dislike EA slightly less than Ubisoft these days.
Re: Bungie Commits to Destiny 2 DLC and Support Through 2026
I can’t wait to see more content that I could pay for and then lose access to forever!
Re: Harry Potter: Quidditch Champions (PS5) - Magical PS Plus Sporting Sim Is a Winner
@Maubari Ick. I already have one of those accounts because of Hogwarts Legacy, but that fact makes me really want to just…finish other games before actually trying this one after all. Thanks for that heads up!
Back to either Halo 2 or Pacific Drive, I guess! Just finished Astro Bot a little bit ago, waiting a little bit before I attack the platinum down the road!
Re: Harry Potter: Quidditch Champions Review (PS5) - Magical PS Plus Sporting Sim Is a Winner
@dardel I don’t see comments like that for this article so far, which means the block function works well on this site! I’ve weeded out the particularly vitriolic names over time.
That said, I’ve been pleasantly surprised with the reception for this title so far. I hope folks have fun with it, I need to give it a shot once I’m done with Astro Bot.
Re: Days Gone Director Roasts 'Small Game' Astro Bot PS5 for Deacon St John Cameo
@Lup Make fun, absolutely.
Be an utter jerk about it? Nah. There’s a massive difference between a joke and what this nozzle is spouting.
Re: Soapbox: Astro's Playroom PS5 Did Live Service and You Didn't Even Notice
Bad definition.
Live service games depend on an internet connection while playing, for one. Nether Playroom or Astro Bot require this.
This article is a major reach. You might as well say that the packs of items you gradually get from a couple of Yakuza games after launch is “live service” too.
Hell, using this asinine definition, you could say friggin CYBERPUNK 2077 is a live service game because it released in a broken state and got updates to make it, you know, work properly. The original Wolfenstein 3D shareware back in the day was a “live service” game because of the additional episodes.
Astro’s Playroom is simply a game that got updated to add benefits to another single player game. Zero comparison.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Astro Bot?
Just got my physical copy and its installing to my PS5 now. Going to have a blast this weekend!
Re: PS5, PC Disaster Concord Is Now Officially Offline Indefinitely
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Re: Concord Will Remain in Prime Video's Secret Level Anthology Series
Not their fault a game they covered ended up being a complete and abject failure. Might as well present it, if only as a memorial to millions of dollars wasted.
Re: Astro's Playroom Is Having a Party Inside Your PS5 Right Now
@get2sammyb …or just patch that uses a clock to run a countdown without any internet truly required afterwards.
You know…or that.
Re: Ridiculous PS5 'Racing Royale' Faaast Penguin Invites You to Its Open Beta This Weekend
Well, it already looks more entertaining than Concord! I mean, this isn’t a hard bar to hurdle, but…
Too bad it’s from Epic, though.