Hmm if you just think of it...with ps1, they put a music CD player in every kids room...PS2 brought movie DVD playback, PS3-PS4 bluray movies playback, PS5 came with a 4k BD drive (no DolbyVision but whatever, right?). As much as I'd love to see any type of physical media outlive me in my humbleness, there doesn't seem to be any next step in this multimedia legacy for SONY...eventhough they themselves started with such approach. We can only wait and see...
digital games relevance ?
YES: families with kids / 24-7 gaming addicts / day-one
Twitchers / indie dev supporters
NO: collectors & die hard fans / B-day or Xmas gifts
Technically, gamers brought this upon themselves...remember those modded fat PS2s with HDDs full of games? Why loading a game off an optical disc, when consumers still want it "installed" internally? ... if that's not karma by SONY...
How can you have button inputs that don't always register? That is THE major flaw...especially in a brawler game. Other than that, that's gonna sit very well next to the TNMT on the shelf
I remember some homebrew games from PS Magazines made on the Yarooze console allowed for AudioCD swap to have your own music playing in the background...then the PS2 came with DVD movie playback later to be superseeded by PS3's BD playback which got butchered two gens later by a 4K drive tied to online activation not even supporting DolbyVision. Home entertainment legacy killed just like that Who knew?
"dear users...thank you for your loyalty despite..." PSN outages, personal data leaks, crappy PS+ games line up, subscription price increases, consoles overheating due to faulty design, internal studio closures, digital games delistings, hardly-any-launch-titles-for-PS5,...the list goes on But yeah, still much better than the M$ offer...
@cuttlefishjones I switched from the OG PS5 to a Slim model and swapped the nvme. The Slim then rebuilt the database and all games were there. No need to re-download.
So the OG PS5 box had "8K" written on the side...the PS5 Slim box had "4K120" written on the side...yet we had to wait for a "PRO" revision to have a "new era of gaming" announced and to be actually "playing with power"? SONY now actually charges double for what they were supposed to deliver with the OG PS5? ... How come anyone still supports this business?
I bought the og-ps5 with the disc drive on release for two reasons...to play enhanced PS4 disc games I already owned and to watch 4k blurays. To my disappointment, I've later learned that the 4k Blurays can be viewed in "Dolby Vision" which Google told me, was superior to HDR, and it also told me, the PS5 did NOT support Dolby vision, which was very likely not to change in the future. As the purpose of physical media began to fade out during the PS3 era where many games would prompt you to install game data to HDD, what purpose is there for the industry to maintain physical media? What would be the target consumer group? Appart from the so-called collectors, whose houses and garages are big enough to store massive Ikea shelvings full of nostalgia, I don't really see any future for this. Is a digital store game likely to get delisted over time? Yes, sure, yet on the other hand, physical games without dev support and/or servers support / god-forbid left in an unpatched state, are not that different when it comes to ruining user experience, right? No possibility to re-sell physical games ? How is it better to buy a 49e game and sell it for 19e after 5 years compared to buying a digital version during a store sale for 19e even if it gets delisted in 10years and cannot be re-downloaded? Exactly. Not hating anything, I myself have a fair collection, just trying to get a realistic picture here...
I'll wait for an offer on used-ones...as soon as those housewifes find out how much did their hubbies invest in a brand-new "aircon", those thrift stores will stock up like crazy
Updating a firmware update with an update? Sounds so Microsoft-ish Omg Playstation used to be fun ....... oh wait, that was back in highschool with Spyro 3 and stuff...what an era :-/
So if you create 4 different accounts on your console with 4 different emails and take turns with each account idling any game for a week, you can then place 4 pre-orders like there's no tomorrow? ... asking for a friend
Pretty weak for a 20th anniv. if you ask me. There've been games with much better editions and those were no anniversaries Since they went with the lets-overprice-the-thing-via-LRG route, I'd expect at least a steelbook and/or a physical CD soundtrack (heck, vinyl even).
It was once remastered in HD already...why not use that version? Cant believe a machine capable of raytracing and marketed as 8k-capable wouldn't handle that
But srsly, why this game and why now? What rock have the anti-fapsters been hiding under during the Cyberpunk 2077 relelase? I'm not even starting on Bayonetta and/or the likes of Catherine & Pantsu hunter...like really...some random 40+ cat-lady youtuber starts bragging about that and the snowball starts rolling...what an era.
PSN Store-wise I can compare PS3, PS4 and PS5 (heck, even Vita at times)...aside from GUI polish, there is not much user-friendliness to comment on. PS4 is still a supported system and you cannot even Wishlist games on that. You do have genre categories to filter your search, however, only multiregion AAAs make the top positions in each category anyway. No screenshots in web browser PSN Store? Really? I actually have to google the game or switch to the infamous mobile app to see some actual screenshots/videos for the game in store...so not user-friendly! The PS mobile app is a case on it's own - you cannot even click/use any of the tags that appear in a game description. It's the hard work of youtubers (thank you Nintendolife & Switchcorner) that brings some quality games under the consumer radar.
I myself am a gaming cave-man dating back to pre-ZXSpectrum days, sadly, I must admit, all-digital is here to stay. All passion-related papermanualsmelling fetish goes aside when you walk into a gameshop and see pricetags inflated by tens of EUR compared to discounted digital offers. Even then, you bite the bullet and pop that disc/cartridge in your system just to realize there is a need for a download anyway...be it day1 patch or additional game data. Makes the sole existence of the physical version obsolete. The future is confusing to say the least...until there comes a visionary of the likes of Steve Jobs & Apple who can set the global trend firmly for decades to follow.
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Re: Feature: Nintendo Switch 2 Direct - 5 Things for PS5 Fans to Pay Attention To
GTA V being labeled as a "PS4 era title" really made my day
Re: New PS5 Firmware Update Available from Today in Phased Launch
Well, at least they don't just update the swear words list like Nintendoes
Re: Reaction: Sony's Licensing Strategy May Be the Best Route to Reviving Some of PlayStation's Lost Classics
...in an alternative reality, the DriveClub servers went back online
Re: One of the Strangest Games Ever Made Appears to Be Coming to PS5, PS4
oh damn, now my YT history and "recommendations" are all messed up
Re: Crash Bandicoot, Ratchet & Clank Inspire New PS5 Indie Game Ruffy and the Riverside
Nice little Mario odyssey touch with the 2D stone wall there
Re: 3DO's One-Time Mascot Gex Grabs a PS5 Collection This Summer
I was hoping for an HD texture treatment like the Tomb Raider trilogies ... oh well ... gonna spend my 19,99 in a different way then.
Re: Sony Will Publish PS5 Fan Favourite Stellar Blade on PC
Christmas comes early for all those pervy no-life pc modders
Re: Poll: Did the PSN Outage Ruin Your Gaming Plans Over the Weekend?
I'm kinda lucky to have plenty of gaming distortions at hand, should anything like that happen at any time...you know...family, real life & stuff...
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Says Sony 'Can't Get Away' with a PS6 That Has No Disc Drive
Hmm if you just think of it...with ps1, they put a music CD player in every kids room...PS2 brought movie DVD playback, PS3-PS4 bluray movies playback, PS5 came with a 4k BD drive (no DolbyVision but whatever, right?). As much as I'd love to see any type of physical media outlive me in my humbleness, there doesn't seem to be any next step in this multimedia legacy for SONY...eventhough they themselves started with such approach. We can only wait and see...
Re: Poll: Are You Buying Forza Horizon 5 on PS5?
for 79,99? Who wouldn't ?
Re: The State of the UK's Physical Games Market Might Explain PS5 Pro's Lack of Disc Drive
To put it short:
YES: families with kids / 24-7 gaming addicts / day-one
Twitchers / indie dev supporters
NO: collectors & die hard fans / B-day or Xmas gifts
Technically, gamers brought this upon themselves...remember those modded fat PS2s with HDDs full of games? Why loading a game off an optical disc, when consumers still want it "installed" internally? ... if that's not karma by SONY...
Re: Talking Point: Is PlayStation Right in Saying PC Isn't a 'Major Risk' to Console Business?
Just imagine a world where online multiplayer & save states cloudsync are free...you don't even need unicorns...just imagine
Re: Random: Assassin's Creed Origins Catching Strays as Ubisoft Review Bombing Gets Underway
Whoa...and I thought, only Chuck Norris could "brick" a digital game ... who knew?
Re: Mini Review: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: Rita's Rewind (PS5) - A Short But Sweet Nostalgia Trip
How can you have button inputs that don't always register? That is THE major flaw...especially in a brawler game. Other than that, that's gonna sit very well next to the TNMT on the shelf
Re: New PS5 Firmware Update Available Today in Phased Release
with gigabit tariffs these days, re-downloading stuff is hardly a thing in most cases
Re: Happy 30th Birthday to PlayStation
I remember some homebrew games from PS Magazines made on the Yarooze console allowed for AudioCD swap to have your own music playing in the background...then the PS2 came with DVD movie playback later to be superseeded by PS3's BD playback which got butchered two gens later by a 4K drive tied to online activation not even supporting DolbyVision. Home entertainment legacy killed just like that Who knew?
Re: PlayStation Thanks the Fans with Emotional 30th Anniversary Montage
@tameshiyaku either that or Meisa Kuroki in One Missed Call 3
Re: PlayStation Thanks the Fans with Emotional 30th Anniversary Montage
"dear users...thank you for your loyalty despite..." PSN outages, personal data leaks, crappy PS+ games line up, subscription price increases, consoles overheating due to faulty design, internal studio closures, digital games delistings, hardly-any-launch-titles-for-PS5,...the list goes on But yeah, still much better than the M$ offer...
Re: PS Store 30th Anniversary Sale Offers 2,000+ PS5, PS4 Game Deals
It's like a dozen or two of actual games...the rest is just shovelware...like in each "sale"
Re: Legacy of Kain Fans Will Be Feasting on PS5, PS4 These Coming Weeks
What's missing is Max Payne / Painkiller / Soldier of Fortune and Gex and my whole childhood will be completely remastered in HD
Re: Out Today: PS5 Pro, the Most Powerful Console Ever
@cuttlefishjones I switched from the OG PS5 to a Slim model and swapped the nvme. The Slim then rebuilt the database and all games were there. No need to re-download.
Re: Out Today: PS5 Pro, the Most Powerful Console Ever
So the OG PS5 box had "8K" written on the side...the PS5 Slim box had "4K120" written on the side...yet we had to wait for a "PRO" revision to have a "new era of gaming" announced and to be actually "playing with power"? SONY now actually charges double for what they were supposed to deliver with the OG PS5? ... How come anyone still supports this business?
Re: Like It or Not, This Is Why PS5 Pro Doesn't Have a Disc Drive
I bought the og-ps5 with the disc drive on release for two reasons...to play enhanced PS4 disc games I already owned and to watch 4k blurays. To my disappointment, I've later learned that the 4k Blurays can be viewed in "Dolby Vision" which Google told me, was superior to HDR, and it also told me, the PS5 did NOT support Dolby vision, which was very likely not to change in the future. As the purpose of physical media began to fade out during the PS3 era where many games would prompt you to install game data to HDD, what purpose is there for the industry to maintain physical media? What would be the target consumer group? Appart from the so-called collectors, whose houses and garages are big enough to store massive Ikea shelvings full of nostalgia, I don't really see any future for this. Is a digital store game likely to get delisted over time? Yes, sure, yet on the other hand, physical games without dev support and/or servers support / god-forbid left in an unpatched state, are not that different when it comes to ruining user experience, right? No possibility to re-sell physical games ? How is it better to buy a 49e game and sell it for 19e after 5 years compared to buying a digital version during a store sale for 19e even if it gets delisted in 10years and cannot be re-downloaded? Exactly. Not hating anything, I myself have a fair collection, just trying to get a realistic picture here...
Re: Watch Unreal 5's Seriously Impressive MegaLights Tech Demo, Running on a PS5
will there be a remake of this demo for the PS5pro?
Re: Poll: Did You Pre-Order a PS5 Pro?
I'll wait for an offer on used-ones...as soon as those housewifes find out how much did their hubbies invest in a brand-new "aircon", those thrift stores will stock up like crazy
Re: Sony Product Manager Urges PS5 Fans to 'Settle Down' Over Ads
Updating a firmware update with an update? Sounds so Microsoft-ish Omg Playstation used to be fun ....... oh wait, that was back in highschool with Spyro 3 and stuff...what an era :-/
Re: Sony Fights Scalpers in Japan By Demanding PS5, PS4 Playtime
So if you create 4 different accounts on your console with 4 different emails and take turns with each account idling any game for a week, you can then place 4 pre-orders like there's no tomorrow? ... asking for a friend
Re: Soul Reaver 1 & 2 Remastered Is Real, Reborn on PS5, PS4 in December
This will sit very nicely next to the physical release of the Tomb raider trilogy.
Re: Random: PS3 Is Now the Only Console from Its Era with a Functional Store
One sad thing about the inevitable closure of the PS3 store is there will be no farewell-sales like on the 3DS / X360 eshops.
Re: CYGNI: All Guns Blazing Set to Light a Fire Under Shoot-Em-Ups on PS5
25GB for a Shmup game What an era! Can't wait
Re: Ubisoft Unveils Beyond Good & Evil: 20th Anniversary Edition's Physical Offerings
Pretty weak for a 20th anniv. if you ask me. There've been games with much better editions and those were no anniversaries Since they went with the lets-overprice-the-thing-via-LRG route, I'd expect at least a steelbook and/or a physical CD soundtrack (heck, vinyl even).
Re: Tomb Raider Legend Unearths 480p, 30fps Performance on PS5, PS4
It was once remastered in HD already...why not use that version? Cant believe a machine capable of raytracing and marketed as 8k-capable wouldn't handle that
Re: Even as a LEGO Game, Horizon Adventures' PS5 Visuals Are Off the Charts
Oh dear, I had some 69,99.- laying around with no real purpose...the wait is now over !
Re: Open World Racer Test Drive Unlimited: Solar Crown Swerves onto PS5 in September
4years in the making, 2 years of online service and we're done
Re: In Case You Missed It, There Are Two Quintessential Quintuplets Games on PS4 Now
Will there be a strictly limited physical release with an actual girl in underpants that would call you "senpai"? (asking for a friend) lol
Re: Stellar Blade PS5 Fans Irate Over Alleged Censorship
But srsly, why this game and why now? What rock have the anti-fapsters been hiding under during the Cyberpunk 2077 relelase? I'm not even starting on Bayonetta and/or the likes of Catherine & Pantsu hunter...like really...some random 40+ cat-lady youtuber starts bragging about that and the snowball starts rolling...what an era.
Re: Stellar Blade Director Recommends Players Wear Clothes, Where Possible
will paper towels sell like hot cakes? .... time will tell LOL
Re: PS5 Pro's Proprietary DLSS-Esque Upscaler Sounds Superb
So does this mean the "8K" sticker on the "OG PS5" box gets to be justified from now on?
Re: PS4 Is Still Getting Firmware Update Improvements, By the Way
Hm, seems like the latest PS3 fw update has stirred even more attention than the PS4 one
Re: New PS5 Firmware Update Available to Download Now
is this a 500$ chat-machine or what?
Re: Feature: Indie Publisher Neon Doctrine on the Importance of Culture and Improvements to the PS Store
PSN Store-wise I can compare PS3, PS4 and PS5 (heck, even Vita at times)...aside from GUI polish, there is not much user-friendliness to comment on. PS4 is still a supported system and you cannot even Wishlist games on that. You do have genre categories to filter your search, however, only multiregion AAAs make the top positions in each category anyway. No screenshots in web browser PSN Store? Really? I actually have to google the game or switch to the infamous mobile app to see some actual screenshots/videos for the game in store...so not user-friendly! The PS mobile app is a case on it's own - you cannot even click/use any of the tags that appear in a game description. It's the hard work of youtubers (thank you Nintendolife & Switchcorner) that brings some quality games under the consumer radar.
Re: Respawn Reportedly Developing First-Person, Bounty-Hunting Mandalorian Game
lets all hope it wont turn into a Destiny-like multiplayer online thing...That is Not The Way....
Re: Crystal Dynamics Warns Racial, Ethnic Stereotypes Remain in Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered
"No actual dinosaurs have been hurt while creating the game..." ... oh c'mon. Marketing dept. these days...
Re: Crash Bandicoot Developer Toys for Bob Struck by Layoffs, Office Closure
Will those games disappear from online stores now?
Re: Microsoft Employee Inadvertently Adds More Fuel to the Xbox Multiplatform Fire
They are walking the SEGA path...just let them
Re: Poll: Which Xbox Franchises Would You Buy on PS5?
hm hmm so hard to choose ... there're so many of them, right? Nah...jokes aside..............wait, what jokes?
Re: Ubisoft CEO Defends Skull and Bones Premium $70 Pricetag, Insists It's 'AAAA' Quality
there will be zero people online playing it after 2 years...mark my words
Re: Soapbox: This Is Why Physical Games Are Still Important to Me
I myself am a gaming cave-man dating back to pre-ZXSpectrum days, sadly, I must admit, all-digital is here to stay. All passion-related papermanualsmelling fetish goes aside when you walk into a gameshop and see pricetags inflated by tens of EUR compared to discounted digital offers. Even then, you bite the bullet and pop that disc/cartridge in your system just to realize there is a need for a download anyway...be it day1 patch or additional game data. Makes the sole existence of the physical version obsolete. The future is confusing to say the least...until there comes a visionary of the likes of Steve Jobs & Apple who can set the global trend firmly for decades to follow.
Re: Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown (PS5) - A Slick, Satisfying, and Royally Robust Metroidvania
So apparently 2024 will be the year of mobile-quality games coming to BluRay yay
Re: Sony Refunding Players Confused by The Last of Us 2 Remastered PS5 Upgrade Path
omg nobody issued refunds when Ghost of Tsushima PS5 came out Imho that was a far bigger upgrade mess than TLOU 2