I guess the majority now love being nickel and dimed to death with having characters, costumes, gear pieces and other types of cosmetics all locked away along with have battle passes and season passes shoved down our throats with a health dose of FOMO because if you don’t unlock everything in your season pass, then you lose it.
Then, we have these damn people that will spend hundreds or thousands on MTX but lose their damn mind when a traditional COMPLETE game cost $40. It’s really disappointing seeing so many people will become warped.
The only lesson these big companies will learn from this is that gamers don’t want traditional games they want to be nickel and dime to death.
Just like the game Jedi Survivor, I planned on buying it day one but when you find out that the game is somewhat janky, I’ll wait for a sale and patches.
I want this game and would be happy to buy day one, But considering a large amount of games release somewhat unoptimized and then they patch it for months. I’ve quit buying many games day one.
The last game that comes to mind is Jedi Survivor. I was going to buy day one. They were going to get the full $70 but it was kind of janky and then I didn’t buy it for months.
If I see some proof that this game has solid performance throughout, then I’ll buy itthis week otherwise, I’ll get it sometime in the future.
My son and I were huge fans of the old Batman games and figured bare minimum, The suicide squad game would be worth it just for the story.
IT WAS NOT!
We just beat it today and it was very anticlimactic. I can’t imagine those that paid full price for this game. We waited for a sale and it still wasn’t worth it. It’s extremely disappointing.
I’m completely burned out on pure Souls games. If it’s a lite version of it, I’m fine.
I’m not a fan of these games being referred to as challenging when it just wants you to grind to boost numbers.
The newer God of War games are souls-lite, which I’m cool with but I vastly prefer the gameplay of older GoW, Devil May Cry, Ninja Gaiden, Bayenetta, etc.
I just beat Flintlock which is a souls-lite, and it was fine, but I have zero interest in that new Elden Ring DLC for example.
Also, Sekiro is better than every Souls game Fromsoft has ever released.
Im not a fan of hero shooters, but I had a good time with Concord playing it with my kids.
This is just another game that is receiving unwarranted hate and will do badly due to the weirdness of gamers.
The blind hate this game has received reminds me of what happened to Days Gone.
Also when it comes to content, many F2P titles offer 2 costumes for 40$ and lock their characters away.
Concord offers 16 characters and then roughly 10 costumes, 5 gear, 5 accessories, 10 gun skins, 30 gun charms, however many maps and they say all future content is free for 40$.
We’ve been told for years that It was hard to make a good profit from full price games at $60-$70, So it’s always seemed very apparent that offering all of your brand new games at a bargain bin price subscription service isn’t gonna work out well for a company.
I’m actually a GamePass Subscriber and it really annoys me That we’ve heard, Play it day one on game pass, when it sure doesn’t mean that anymore.
There’s people out there acting dense and pretending it does though.
I don’t understand people that don’t come to the immediate conclusion that they should just delete it.
I’m fine with GaaS as a whole, but people have supported too much greed. It’s insane to me that people ever bought cosmetics that are 20$ or higher.
It’s a horrible message, FULL games are 70$, but you’re willing to pay 20$ for cosmetics. That’s horrible. Cosmetics should be 8$ at the absolute most for premium content.
Back when I had more free time I would tough it through a game. Now, I’ll play on Normal or hard until it annoys me and then I’ll turn down the difficulty and rush through the game.
The Twitter console war is ablaze with people using this as ammo.
I simply reply this is bad news. Any company focusing on this is wanting you to live in a game and all this means is less innovation and new experiences and more of, what can get people addicted to our game? Just a larger attempt at ripping off Fortnite, COD, etc.
Sony must not be thinking about the fact that if they push heavily to PC, many people may migrate there and that just means huge losses of revenue/profit from their PS Store.
They may gain some software sales on PC but will lose sales from MTX on games like Fortnite and COD if people abandon their store.
I haven’t owned an Xbox since the 360, my buddy never has. We both bought a Series X two years ago due to the lack of 1st party output by Sony.
Don’t misread that. We still have PS5s, but we bought Xboxs to go with them, when we haven’t for years or ever.
Even now, I still believe the PS5 generation is easily the worst PlayStation generation ever.
The PS3 experience absolutely destroys the PS5.
Uncharted 1-3 TLoU Resistance 1-3 Motorstorm 1-3 Infamous 1-2 and Vampire DLC Killzone God of War Asc and 3 Little Big Planet 1-3 Puppeteer
and many more along with many fantastic 3rd party titles.
You read all that and it sounds like im miserable. Im not. I enjoy gaming, but it peaked during the 360/PS3 gen and has slowly gotten worse, tho still enjoyable.
Now, lets look back to the PS3 generation.
Uncharted 1-3
Resistance 1-3
Motorstorm 1-3
LBP 1-3
TLoU
God of War Ascension and 3
Infamous 1-2 and vampire DLC
Gran Turismo
LBP Karting
Mod Nation Racer
The Puppeteer
Killzone
And more that don’t immediately come to mind and all the fantastic 3rd party titles introduced during that gen.
Spec Ops the Line
Bioshock 1-3
GTA4, Max Payne and GTAV
Demon Souls
Far Cry 3
Assassins Creeds
That was a fantastic gen.
I could easily keep going but decided to cut it short.
@AfroMario I bought a series x a couple years back and out of all the Xbox games I’ve played even though I don’t care for survivor games this game grabbed me more than any other.
We’ve experienced the greatness with the PS1 generation, the PS2 generation, the PS3 generation, the PS4 generation and now we can add the PSPC generation to that list.
My bad, I forgot the PS5. Well, it feels like Sony has too. It doesn’t deserve to be on that list regardless.
If you are a fan of Honey I Shrunk the Kids, I absolutely recommend buying Grounded. I’m not a fan of survival games, but I ended up absolutely loving Grounded. I love the world, the characters, the story, the creatures, the exploration, and the secrets. It’s easily one of my favorite Xbox games.
It’s fun playing solo and it’s great playing with friends. This game deserves to be a huge success. I know Sea of thieves gets all the glory, but I’m a bigger fan of grounded.
I wanna share something that annoys the hell out of my friend and I.
Back in the day, there were always games/etc that we wanted to buy but money was an issue.
Now, we are both better off in our lives, money isn’t really an issue, but the game industry as a whole doesn’t tempt us enough to buy games, or things like a PS5 Pro etc. It’s annoying to have the money, but not the interest.
I remember back then that it gave me a little trouble and slalom gave me trouble due to my age. Luckily, many games experimented in different types of games and I remember playing an Olympics game that had that word in it and I remember thinking that’s where you have to ski down between flags and maybe that means drive between the poles in this game. Luckily, I was right.
I ended up loving the game But the final mission was insanely difficult As well. I remember trying to beat it for a few hours. I was very angry and went to bed and when I got up the next morning I beat it on my first try. It was crazy.
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Re: Concord PS5, PC Sales Estimates Are Somehow Even Worse Than We Thought
F2P sure has warped gamers.
I guess the majority now love being nickel and dimed to death with having characters, costumes, gear pieces and other types of cosmetics all locked away along with have battle passes and season passes shoved down our throats with a health dose of FOMO because if you don’t unlock everything in your season pass, then you lose it.
Then, we have these damn people that will spend hundreds or thousands on MTX but lose their damn mind when a traditional COMPLETE game cost $40. It’s really disappointing seeing so many people will become warped.
The only lesson these big companies will learn from this is that gamers don’t want traditional games they want to be nickel and dime to death.
Re: Players Complain of Lengthy PS5 Matchmaking Times As Concord Numbers Dwindle
Why didn’t you mention the country he is in? It matters.
In the US, I’ve been able to find matches ranging from 10-30 seconds on average. I’ve had one, ONE! game that took a minute to find.
The hate boner gamers have with this game is crazy.
F2P has warped gamers.
Re: Concord (PS5) - Live Service Debut Beats the Hate with Stellar Presentation and Good Gameplay
I just don’t care about all the negativity people have directed towards this game.
I bought Concord today & my kids and I’ve really enjoyed it.
Surprisingly, on the PS5, every game has been found in less than 40 seconds. So, there are enough PS5 players for that to happen.
Re: Black Myth: Wukong Is Eating Your Inputs on PS5, and It's a Problem with Performance Mode
Just like the game Jedi Survivor, I planned on buying it day one but when you find out that the game is somewhat janky, I’ll wait for a sale and patches.
Re: Lost in Random: The Eternal Die Announced, a Rogue-Lite Sequel Coming to PS5 in 2025
I was excited before I read the preview 😐
Re: Judge for Yourself with Official PS5 Black Myth: Wukong Gameplay
I want this game and would be happy to buy day one, But considering a large amount of games release somewhat unoptimized and then they patch it for months. I’ve quit buying many games day one.
The last game that comes to mind is Jedi Survivor. I was going to buy day one. They were going to get the full $70 but it was kind of janky and then I didn’t buy it for months.
If I see some proof that this game has solid performance throughout, then I’ll buy itthis week otherwise, I’ll get it sometime in the future.
Re: PS5's Lack of Tentpole Exclusives Isn't Hurting Engagement, Says Sony
As a longtime hardcore PlayStation fan I think it SUCKS!
I miss the experience I had with the PS3.
Uncharted 1-3
Resistance 1-3
TLoU
LBP 1-3
Motorstorm 1-3
Infamous 1-2 and Vampire DLC
Puppeteer
God of War 3 and Ascension
Killzone
Ratchet and Clank
Third party games were fresh:
Bioshock 1-3
GTA 4&5
RDR
Spec Ops The Line
Demon and Dark Souls
Assassin’s Creeds
Far Cry’s
And many more. I know that we still have many of these types of games, but they were just fresh back then.
Re: Suicide Squad the Villain Behind Warner Bros Gaming Revenue Drop
My son and I were huge fans of the old Batman games and figured bare minimum, The suicide squad game would be worth it just for the story.
IT WAS NOT!
We just beat it today and it was very anticlimactic. I can’t imagine those that paid full price for this game. We waited for a sale and it still wasn’t worth it. It’s extremely disappointing.
Re: Deals: Sony Goes for the Jugular with Humongous PS5, PSVR2 Discounts in USA
30$ for most of those games is not a good deal considering how old they are.
Re: Poll: Are You Sick of Soulslike Games?
I’m completely burned out on pure Souls games. If it’s a lite version of it, I’m fine.
I’m not a fan of these games being referred to as challenging when it just wants you to grind to boost numbers.
The newer God of War games are souls-lite, which I’m cool with but I vastly prefer the gameplay of older GoW, Devil May Cry, Ninja Gaiden, Bayenetta, etc.
I just beat Flintlock which is a souls-lite, and it was fine, but I have zero interest in that new Elden Ring DLC for example.
Also, Sekiro is better than every Souls game Fromsoft has ever released.
Re: Preview: There's Nothing Super About Marvel Rivals on PS5
The hate boner from gamers for Concord really is something.
Re: Marvel Rivals' Closed Beta Is Putting Concord's Player Numbers into Perspective
Im not a fan of hero shooters, but I had a good time with Concord playing it with my kids.
This is just another game that is receiving unwarranted hate and will do badly due to the weirdness of gamers.
The blind hate this game has received reminds me of what happened to Days Gone.
Also when it comes to content, many F2P titles offer 2 costumes for 40$ and lock their characters away.
Concord offers 16 characters and then roughly 10 costumes, 5 gear, 5 accessories, 10 gun skins, 30 gun charms, however many maps and they say all future content is free for 40$.
F2P has warped gamers.
Re: MultiVersus Dev Player First Games Snagged by Warner Bros
In my opinion, the micro transactions are too egregious in that game for me to want to invest into it.
Re: Beetlejuice Resurrected for MultiVersus' Second PS5, PS4 Season
@Tecinthebrain I despise that it’s an overly greedy GaaS.
I bought Street Fighter 6, MK1, and Tekken 8 day 1 and would have done the same for Multiversus if it wasn’t GaaS.
Re: Talking Point: Was Sony Right to Resist Adding PS5 Exclusives to PS Plus Day One?
We’ve been told for years that It was hard to make a good profit from full price games at $60-$70, So it’s always seemed very apparent that offering all of your brand new games at a bargain bin price subscription service isn’t gonna work out well for a company.
I’m actually a GamePass Subscriber and it really annoys me That we’ve heard, Play it day one on game pass, when it sure doesn’t mean that anymore.
There’s people out there acting dense and pretending it does though.
Re: A 3D Double Dragon Revival Is in Development at Arc System Works
Im 100% interested.
Re: Apex Legends Demands More Cash in New, Dodgy Battle Pass Strategy
I don’t understand people that don’t come to the immediate conclusion that they should just delete it.
I’m fine with GaaS as a whole, but people have supported too much greed. It’s insane to me that people ever bought cosmetics that are 20$ or higher.
It’s a horrible message, FULL games are 70$, but you’re willing to pay 20$ for cosmetics. That’s horrible. Cosmetics should be 8$ at the absolute most for premium content.
Re: Concord Dev Confirms Monetisation Through Cosmetics Only
Are there cosmetics to unlock in the game?
This isn’t a F2P game, you are paying 40$.
If you only get the game, then it doesn’t sound like a good deal compared to Helldivers 2 or other F2P games.
Re: Poll: Can a Game's Brutal Difficultly Put You Off Playing It?
Back when I had more free time I would tough it through a game. Now, I’ll play on Normal or hard until it annoys me and then I’ll turn down the difficulty and rush through the game.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree?
Souls and souls-likes mostly bore more anymore.
Sekiro> EVERY SOULS VERSION
Grinding numbers and cheap 1 hit deaths aren’t for me.
Re: Xbox Bigwig Confirms Many More Microsoft Games Are Coming to PS5
Im glad I own a Series X, PS5, Switch and Steamdeck.
It’s nice not having to wait or beg for games.
I’m really looking forward to Astrobot, but that definitely won’t hold me over.
I have ZERO interest in Concord.
Re: PS5 Fans Beg Sony for a More Fulfilling Livestream in the Aftermath of Xbox Show
PS gamers got exactly what they wanted. They cried saying they don’t like early announcements and previews, so, Sony has went quiet.
I love previews, give me a roadmap that’s five years long.
Re: It's 'A Truly Exciting Time' for PlayStation as New Sony CEOs Take Control
@LazyLombax Sony Bend you say? Let me look………………..it’s been…………….. since 2019 they released their last game 😐.
5 DAMN YEARS AND WE KNOW NOTHING!
as the derps say, LeT tHeM cOoK
Re: It's 'A Truly Exciting Time' for PlayStation as New Sony CEOs Take Control
It’s not exciting for me knowing that they are no where near as great as the PS3/PS4 generations and it doesn’t look to be happening ANYTIME SOON!
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Sony's State of Play for May 2024?
I’ve said it numerous times, the PS5 generation is horrible compared to past gen’s.
Greatness awaits, and waits, and waits, and waits, an…………………………………….
Re: Millennials Must Gather Caring Energy in Care Bears: To the Rescue on PS5
Too bad it looks pretty bad.
It would have been cool if they would have built a game around the 80s animation.
Re: Feature: Revisiting PlayStation Showcase 2023, an Event Sony Must Improve Upon
@Rob_230 they haven’t came close to actually utilizing the PS5. They can kiss my ass if they think I’m gonna buy a pro.
Re: Feature: Revisiting PlayStation Showcase 2023, an Event Sony Must Improve Upon
Its been pretty bad for years, but last year was especially worse after they were silent going on 2 years.
Re: A Lot of PS4 Owners Have Yet to Upgrade to PS5
@MrBook It will definitely be the same. The days of pushing the newest tech are gone.
PS6 games will have to cater to the specs of the PS5 and PC equivalent. Otherwise, you are reducing your possible sales.
The days of being blown away by a game pushing the limits are gone.
Re: A Lot of PS4 Owners Have Yet to Upgrade to PS5
Cross-gen is a huge contributing factor as to why I consider the PS5 to be the most disappointing PlayStation ever.
Unless you really care about frames and the perks you get from using an OLED, there is very little reason to upgrade.
Re: GTA 6 PS5 Release Window Narrowed to Fall 2025
The fact that by the time the game releases it’s gonna be 12 or 13 years since the last one annoys the hell out of me.
Re: Sony Increasingly Focused on PS5 Playtime Alongside Hardware Sales
The Twitter console war is ablaze with people using this as ammo.
I simply reply this is bad news. Any company focusing on this is wanting you to live in a game and all this means is less innovation and new experiences and more of, what can get people addicted to our game? Just a larger attempt at ripping off Fortnite, COD, etc.
Re: Sony Committed to Better First-Party Games, 'Richer' Experiences, More PS5 Users
Sony must not be thinking about the fact that if they push heavily to PC, many people may migrate there and that just means huge losses of revenue/profit from their PS Store.
They may gain some software sales on PC but will lose sales from MTX on games like Fortnite and COD if people abandon their store.
Re: Square Enix to 'Aggressively' Pursue Multiplatform Strategy from Now On
They should just say, being profitable isn’t enough, they need ALL THE PROFITS, ALL THE MONEY!!!
Thats why exclusives are dying and everyone is chasing GaaS.
Re: Warner Bros Revenue Plummets as Suicide Squad Falls Completely Short of Hogwarts Legacy
Well, the only thing to do is to double down, no, triple down on GaaS.
Re: Rumour: Ubisoft Is Going All-In on Assassin's Creed with Black Flag Remake, Another Remake, Co-op Multiplayer Games, and More
@MFTWrecks I would much rather have a new Immortals than a new Assassins Creed.
They did a really good job with the first one, I would like to see how they could have improved it.
Re: Rumour: Ubisoft Is Going All-In on Assassin's Creed with Black Flag Remake, Another Remake, Co-op Multiplayer Games, and More
This news is boring as hell.
I liked Black Flag and the Assassins Creed series, but damn, Im ready for them to ditch it like they have with Watch Dogs.
Im ready some NEW experiences.
Re: PS5 Fans Mostly Happy with Sony's Third-Party Deals, But PlayStation Studios Need to Step Up
I haven’t owned an Xbox since the 360, my buddy never has. We both bought a Series X two years ago due to the lack of 1st party output by Sony.
Don’t misread that. We still have PS5s, but we bought Xboxs to go with them, when we haven’t for years or ever.
Even now, I still believe the PS5 generation is easily the worst PlayStation generation ever.
The PS3 experience absolutely destroys the PS5.
Uncharted 1-3
TLoU
Resistance 1-3
Motorstorm 1-3
Infamous 1-2 and Vampire DLC
Killzone
God of War Asc and 3
Little Big Planet 1-3
Puppeteer
and many more along with many fantastic 3rd party titles.
You read all that and it sounds like im miserable. Im not. I enjoy gaming, but it peaked during the 360/PS3 gen and has slowly gotten worse, tho still enjoyable.
Re: Talking Point: Have Sony's Third-Party PS5 Deals Made Up for Its Lack of First-Party Games?
@nomither6 I caught your sarcasm.
Now, lets look back to the PS3 generation.
Uncharted 1-3
Resistance 1-3
Motorstorm 1-3
LBP 1-3
TLoU
God of War Ascension and 3
Infamous 1-2 and vampire DLC
Gran Turismo
LBP Karting
Mod Nation Racer
The Puppeteer
Killzone
And more that don’t immediately come to mind and all the fantastic 3rd party titles introduced during that gen.
Spec Ops the Line
Bioshock 1-3
GTA4, Max Payne and GTAV
Demon Souls
Far Cry 3
Assassins Creeds
That was a fantastic gen.
I could easily keep going but decided to cut it short.
Re: Talking Point: Have Sony's Third-Party PS5 Deals Made Up for Its Lack of First-Party Games?
No, the PS5 is easily the most disappointing generation of PlayStation Ive ever experienced.
Re: Grounded (PS5) - Little Bites Pack a Big Punch
@AfroMario I bought a series x a couple years back and out of all the Xbox games I’ve played even though I don’t care for survivor games this game grabbed me more than any other.
Re: Grounded (PS5) - Little Bites Pack a Big Punch
Im not a fan of survivor games but I absolutely loved this game and highly recommend it.
I loved the world and exploring it. I love the characters and the story was very good overall as well. The gameplay was very enjoyable.
I know sea of thieves gets all the hype, but I enjoyed this way more than sea of thieves. Though it’s a good game as well.
Re: Avatar Game Gets a Rare 40FPS Mode in New PS5 Patch
That’s fantastic news. I haven’t played it yet but when I do I’ll definitely play on that mode.
Re: Sony Reveals PlayStation Overlay for PC Ports, Supports Trophies, Friends List
The greatness streak continues.
PlayStation is king,
We’ve experienced the greatness with the PS1 generation, the PS2 generation, the PS3 generation, the PS4 generation and now we can add the PSPC generation to that list.
My bad, I forgot the PS5. Well, it feels like Sony has too. It doesn’t deserve to be on that list regardless.
Re: Ubisoft Responds to Star Wars Outlaws Exclusive Jabba the Hutt Boondoggle
With companies implementing greedy practices and launching more and more games in an un-optimized states I have no issue waiting for a huge sale.
Re: PS5, PS4 Ports of Xbox Survival Game Grounded Out Now
If you are a fan of Honey I Shrunk the Kids, I absolutely recommend buying Grounded. I’m not a fan of survival games, but I ended up absolutely loving Grounded. I love the world, the characters, the story, the creatures, the exploration, and the secrets. It’s easily one of my favorite Xbox games.
It’s fun playing solo and it’s great playing with friends. This game deserves to be a huge success. I know Sea of thieves gets all the glory, but I’m a bigger fan of grounded.
Re: New PS5 Pro Leak Points to Significant Graphics Push from Sony
@koverby
Traditionally I would buy it day 1.
I wanna share something that annoys the hell out of my friend and I.
Back in the day, there were always games/etc that we wanted to buy but money was an issue.
Now, we are both better off in our lives, money isn’t really an issue, but the game industry as a whole doesn’t tempt us enough to buy games, or things like a PS5 Pro etc. It’s annoying to have the money, but not the interest.
Re: New PS5 Pro Leak Points to Significant Graphics Push from Sony
Last gen I bought a PS4, PS4 Pro and then 2 PSVR headsets to complement the systems.
This gen I bought a PS5 and Series X.
I would have to be EXTREMELY impressed to even think about buying a PS5 Pro and ray tracing sure as sh*t ain’t it.
The only time ray tracing has impressed me was with Spider-Man.
Here the industry is pushing a PS5 Pro and it feels like Sony has BARELY utilized the PS5 itself and I’ve had the thing since day one.
I have ZERO hype for this.
Re: Random: The Brutal PS1 Driver Intro Even Bested F1 Pro Lewis Hamilton
I remember back then that it gave me a little trouble and slalom gave me trouble due to my age. Luckily, many games experimented in different types of games and I remember playing an Olympics game that had that word in it and I remember thinking that’s where you have to ski down between flags and maybe that means drive between the poles in this game. Luckily, I was right.
I ended up loving the game But the final mission was insanely difficult As well. I remember trying to beat it for a few hours. I was very angry and went to bed and when I got up the next morning I beat it on my first try. It was crazy.
Re: Majority of Immortals of Aveum Studio Reportedly Furloughed
@Ainu20 LOL, I really liked Kingdom of Amalur as well.