I said NO when the news first broke and still stand by that.
They sold full price games with very expensive DLC, then added in a store, traditional season pass and then new at the time battle passes, along with removing story content that you purchased. Destiny NEVER should have been a success.
F ALL OF THAT!
And Sony bought them for their expertise to implement all of that crap into their own games?! 🤮
Customers that support that crap are ruining gaming.
It’s an unpopular opinion but I’ve been saying for a while now that I believe the PS5’s success is due to past generations and not for what it’s done.
That’s 100% the reason I bought 2 consoles day 1. One for me, one for my kids.
I’ve been pretty underwhelmed by the PS5 so far. I still hold the opinion that it’s basically been a PS4 Pro 2. The vast majority of its games have been PS4 titles. I’ve only been impressed by 3 titles in its 3 years, Astro due to the controller haptics, RnC due to its graphics and realm jumps and Spider-Man 2 due to it’s extremely high level of detail maintained over far distances along with the high speed of travel all achieved in an open world title.
It’s also annoying that a majority of Sony Studios haven’t released an actual NEW PS5 title 3 years into this gen. Naughty Dog, Sony Bend, Media Molecule, Sony Santa Monica have yet to release anything PS5 related worthwhile. Their PS4 offerings have been great though.
I don’t care the reasoning. I don’t care that it takes years to release games. It doesn’t change the fact that the PS5 generation has basically been a just a PS4 Part 2.
If the last 3 years has taught me anything, it’s that I shouldn’t be in a hurry for a PS6 in the future because crossgen is going to be supported for a long time.
I thing the PS5 is easily the most underwhelming PS generation.
@PegasusActual93 Yup, left right in the middle of projects or after getting promoted while Neil happened to be 1 position ahead of these persons or of shared position each time.
When I played the Arkham games. Batman felt like he was a part of the world.
When I play Spider-Man, they feel like they are part of their world.
The same with GTAV, RDR2, The Witcher, etc.
This game, gives me vibes of a more vertical Agents of Mayhem, and that time of game, the characters feel like they are more in an arena, than part of a world and this type of game tends to bore me quickly.
What a sh*t show. Purchasing Bungie and focusing on GaaS MAY end up being one of Sony’s biggest regrets.
This may be the beginning of woes.
Planning on releasing 12 titles by 2026 and having to cut that in half due to quality issues is NOT a sign that all is well, but at least they recognize it.
Sony’s lucky that the PS5 is a huge success due to the loyalty gained from previous generations.
The big issue with games like this is that if you start losing the actual fans it will be very difficult for it to survive because it will likely not bring in new customers.
You can’t afford mistakes when you are milking 1 game.
Off topic, I NEVER liked that Sony purchased them, and especially for multiple billions. I thought that decision was crazy. I may be completely wrong, but I thought that I had read before the purchase was even announced that Bungie was struggling and was having to take out numerous loans to stay afloat and I also think that I read that Bungie approached Microsoft for for a sale for like 800 million at that time and Microsoft passed and then Sony bought them for 3 billion. Again it may be wrong as that was years ago, but I thought Sony buying them was absolutely crazy.
@Ken_Kaniff I prefer experiences like Uncharted 2, TLoU, and Resistance 2 where they were great games with tacked on multiplayer.
The damage may be done though and it will take years to return back to what they were doing if this is true. You have to consider these past 1-3 years went into GaaS, and if they change from that, it will take another 3-6 years to see a release.
I’ve seen a ton of people hyped thinking a trailer was going to drop at any moment. Even if it did, it wouldn’t do anything for me unless the game is a few months out. Knowing this franchise, it will get a trailer with the release date for a year later and then a few months before that release it’ll get delayed for another half a year to a year.
I wish I felt that way. The only two that interest me from that list are Tekken and Helldivers. When it comes down to it, Helldivers may not even turn out well due to it being SOMEWHAT untested waters for the developer.
@Sakai I replied to that guy with the same answer as well. There are many of us that only bought a PS5 because we want to play PlayStation 1st party studio titles. It’s annoying the hell out of me when people keep defending them by saying why don’t you play something else.
PlayStation used to have the slogan, Greatness Awaits. Now, it feels like Greatness Awaits, and Waits, and Waits
@Uromastryx In regard to you telling another commenter can’t they just play other games while we wait on Sony to release more .
I don’t know about you, but many of us bought a PS5 to play actual PlayStation first party titles. Otherwise, I could have went with another system if first party titles didn’t matter to me.
Quit defending PlayStation bungling this generation.
@doctommaso PlayStation’s biggest 1st party titles tend to push 25+ hours, GoW for example was 70$. Then you have a game like Miles Morales that was smaller and was 50. It was still a big game though.
That’s what I’m alluding to. PlayStation should go back to focusing on games that are similar to Miles Morales in size, length, and content. Those could easily be $50-$60 and we could have releases more often. You keep hearing these big games are ballooning costs, so quit making so many big games.
I would much rather have games similar to miles every three years, then to wait every six years for a bigger game.
All I want from PlayStation is the quality, length, and quality of tacked on multiplayer that Uncharted 2 delivered. TloU1 and Factions is another good example.
@Ken_Kaniff PlayStation has kept my buddy and I busy for years with their first party output to where we’ve never felt like we needed to own Xbox’s.
We both bought Series X’s this past year to go with our PS5s just to have more games to play and GamePass had become very tempting.
Now, we are both thinking about dropping PSonline.
I’ve actually played on my Series X more lately than my PS5. Just in the past few weeks I beat Psychonauts 2 and Quantum Break. Many of Sony’s decisions pushed us to buying Xbox’s when neither of us has had one in over a decade.
Hell, I’ve been playing my Xbox more than my PS5 lately. I beat Tinykin and am close to beating Psychonauts on Xbox due to GamePass because PS Studios haven’t given me a reason to return.
Im buying MK1 on PS though and will buy Spider-Man 2 as well. Otherwise, it’s been years since PS Studios have put out so few of games.
I don’t know what has happened to Sony, but their current outlook is VERY underwhelming.
Other than MK1 and Spider-Man 2, there is absolutely nothing I’m excited for. I wish that wasn’t the case.
I don’t ever remember feeling this way about PlayStation 😬. They are extremely lucky that people are buying PS5s based off of their historical experiences and not based on PlayStation’s current direction.
@NinjaNicky For myself, that only applies to things that I would be okay with never experiencing. I can’t wait that long for something I would enjoy. You don’t know if you’ll actually be around at that point in time. I try to make time, and enjoy everything I want to do immediately.
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Re: Just One Day Later, Microsoft Has 'No Plans to Bring Game Pass' to PS5, PS4
It’s going to happen. They have to walk it back so they don’t absolutely kill their current generation.
Re: Talking Point: Is Bungie Really the Right Developer to Aid Sony's Live-Service Push?
I said NO when the news first broke and still stand by that.
They sold full price games with very expensive DLC, then added in a store, traditional season pass and then new at the time battle passes, along with removing story content that you purchased. Destiny NEVER should have been a success.
F ALL OF THAT!
And Sony bought them for their expertise to implement all of that crap into their own games?! 🤮
Customers that support that crap are ruining gaming.
Re: Reaction: PS5's Success Is Not Luck, Because Sony's Spent Years Putting in the Hard Yards
It’s an unpopular opinion but I’ve been saying for a while now that I believe the PS5’s success is due to past generations and not for what it’s done.
That’s 100% the reason I bought 2 consoles day 1. One for me, one for my kids.
I’ve been pretty underwhelmed by the PS5 so far. I still hold the opinion that it’s basically been a PS4 Pro 2. The vast majority of its games have been PS4 titles. I’ve only been impressed by 3 titles in its 3 years, Astro due to the controller haptics, RnC due to its graphics and realm jumps and Spider-Man 2 due to it’s extremely high level of detail maintained over far distances along with the high speed of travel all achieved in an open world title.
It’s also annoying that a majority of Sony Studios haven’t released an actual NEW PS5 title 3 years into this gen. Naughty Dog, Sony Bend, Media Molecule, Sony Santa Monica have yet to release anything PS5 related worthwhile. Their PS4 offerings have been great though.
I don’t care the reasoning. I don’t care that it takes years to release games. It doesn’t change the fact that the PS5 generation has basically been a just a PS4 Part 2.
If the last 3 years has taught me anything, it’s that I shouldn’t be in a hurry for a PS6 in the future because crossgen is going to be supported for a long time.
I thing the PS5 is easily the most underwhelming PS generation.
Re: The Last of Us 2 PS5 Remaster Announced, Has a Brand New Survival Mode, $10 Upgrade Path
@Octane I figured it’s real purpose of existing is to release it to PC but they want to get it out the door first to PS5 so players don’t whine.
It sucks being over 3 years into a new console and a good chunk of PS Studios haven’t released a new game for it.
The PS5 gen is easily the worst PlayStation generation and I couldn’t imagine how bad it would be if Insomniac wasn’t there to carry it.
Re: Naughty Dog's Neil Druckmann to Receive NYVGCC Legend Award
@PegasusActual93 Yup, left right in the middle of projects or after getting promoted while Neil happened to be 1 position ahead of these persons or of shared position each time.
Re: Naughty Dog's Neil Druckmann to Receive NYVGCC Legend Award
@MattBoothDev They didn’t retire, they are still working in the industry.
Re: Naughty Dog's Neil Druckmann to Receive NYVGCC Legend Award
This guy must have made a deal with the devil.
Every significant figure at ND has “left” as he’s moved up.
Re: Free Villains, Weapons, Events Set for Suicide Squad PS5 After Launch
I wish I had a term for this.
When I played the Arkham games. Batman felt like he was a part of the world.
When I play Spider-Man, they feel like they are part of their world.
The same with GTAV, RDR2, The Witcher, etc.
This game, gives me vibes of a more vertical Agents of Mayhem, and that time of game, the characters feel like they are more in an arena, than part of a world and this type of game tends to bore me quickly.
Edit: I think I figured out a term.
Hero Hoard Mode Shooter
Re: Suicide Squad Returns with All-New PS5 Gameplay
This really gave me vibes of a more vertical Agents of Mayhem.
I’m not interested.
After MK1, and WB’s messaging, WB games are bargain bin games going forward.
Re: GTA Publisher Lays Out Complex Entertainment Per-Hour Pricing Algorithm
@WolfyTn
I would rather pay 70$ for a great 12-20 game than to pay 40$ for an okay 80 hour game.
Quality over quantity for me.
People wanting an hour for every dollar spent is why these companies focus on bloat.
Re: Remedy Ditches Free-to-Play Model for Upcoming Multiplayer Game
DoA.
There’s nothing else to say.
Re: Sony Delays Six Live Service PS5 Games, But Company Remains Committed to Model
What a sh*t show. Purchasing Bungie and focusing on GaaS MAY end up being one of Sony’s biggest regrets.
This may be the beginning of woes.
Planning on releasing 12 titles by 2026 and having to cut that in half due to quality issues is NOT a sign that all is well, but at least they recognize it.
Sony’s lucky that the PS5 is a huge success due to the loyalty gained from previous generations.
Re: Poll: Do You Think GTA 6 Will Release on PS4?
That would be horrible.
Re: Game Director of The Last of Us' PS5 Multiplayer Project Says He's Still Working on It
@STOBO I remember there being TLoU PS3, TLoU Remastered PS4, TLoU 2 PS4, TLoU Remake PC, and TLoU Remake PS5.
So, five games of TLoU. I may have missed one.
Edit: Also TLoU Left Behind DLC
Re: Bungie Layoffs Reportedly Impacted Around 100 Staff, Revenue 45% Below 2023 Projection
The big issue with games like this is that if you start losing the actual fans it will be very difficult for it to survive because it will likely not bring in new customers.
You can’t afford mistakes when you are milking 1 game.
Off topic, I NEVER liked that Sony purchased them, and especially for multiple billions. I thought that decision was crazy. I may be completely wrong, but I thought that I had read before the purchase was even announced that Bungie was struggling and was having to take out numerous loans to stay afloat and I also think that I read that Bungie approached Microsoft for for a sale for like 800 million at that time and Microsoft passed and then Sony bought them for 3 billion. Again it may be wrong as that was years ago, but I thought Sony buying them was absolutely crazy.
Re: PS5 Live-Service Game Marathon Has Reportedly Been Delayed to 2025
@Ken_Kaniff I prefer experiences like Uncharted 2, TLoU, and Resistance 2 where they were great games with tacked on multiplayer.
The damage may be done though and it will take years to return back to what they were doing if this is true. You have to consider these past 1-3 years went into GaaS, and if they change from that, it will take another 3-6 years to see a release.
Re: GTA 6's Innovative PS5 Animation Engine Promises to Be Highly Dynamic and Realistic
This game is way to far out to care about.
I’ve seen a ton of people hyped thinking a trailer was going to drop at any moment. Even if it did, it wouldn’t do anything for me unless the game is a few months out. Knowing this franchise, it will get a trailer with the release date for a year later and then a few months before that release it’ll get delayed for another half a year to a year.
Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Fans Are Finished with the PS5 Game's $10 Halloween Fatality
I loved Injustice 2 and MK11 and I easily played them for months and then on and off for years.
So, I blindly bought the 120$ edition of MK1 based off of my previous enjoyment.
I haven’t regretted buying a video game this badly in years. When compared to even the day one versions of IJ2 and MK11, MK1 has far less content.
I quit playing MK1 after a couple weeks and I’ve never done that with an NRS title.
Lesson learned. I’ll NEVER buy another NRS title day one again. I’ll either rent it or wait for a big sale.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 PS5 Director: This Game Is Worth the Money
Simpleminded gamers that want quantity over quantity are ruining gaming.
I would much rather pay 70$ for a fantastic 12-20 hour experience than pay 40$ for a mediocre 100 hour experience.
Re: PlayStation Allegedly Under Pressure to Make Major Gaming Acquisitions
I just want to see what’s currently in development from them and when they are due. I’m tired of the damn silence.
Re: Rocket League to Jettison Player-to-Player Item Trading in December
Well, that’s dirty as hell.
Re: Rumour: PS5's Early 2024 Release Schedule May Get Even More Ridiculous Thanks to Elden Ring
I wish I felt that way. The only two that interest me from that list are Tekken and Helldivers. When it comes down to it, Helldivers may not even turn out well due to it being SOMEWHAT untested waters for the developer.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Assassin's Creed Mirage?
I had every intention of buying day one but after hearing the story and characters aren’t interesting, it’s made me hold off.
Re: The Last of Us Multiplayer's Microtransactions Man Has Left Naughty Dog
@Sakai I replied to that guy with the same answer as well. There are many of us that only bought a PS5 because we want to play PlayStation 1st party studio titles. It’s annoying the hell out of me when people keep defending them by saying why don’t you play something else.
PlayStation used to have the slogan, Greatness Awaits.
Now, it feels like Greatness Awaits, and Waits, and Waits
Re: The Last of Us Multiplayer's Microtransactions Man Has Left Naughty Dog
@Uromastryx In regard to you telling another commenter can’t they just play other games while we wait on Sony to release more .
I don’t know about you, but many of us bought a PS5 to play actual PlayStation first party titles. Otherwise, I could have went with another system if first party titles didn’t matter to me.
Quit defending PlayStation bungling this generation.
Re: PlayStation's Push for Live Service Games Hasn't Been Going Smoothly
@doctommaso PlayStation’s biggest 1st party titles tend to push 25+ hours, GoW for example was 70$. Then you have a game like Miles Morales that was smaller and was 50. It was still a big game though.
That’s what I’m alluding to. PlayStation should go back to focusing on games that are similar to Miles Morales in size, length, and content. Those could easily be $50-$60 and we could have releases more often. You keep hearing these big games are ballooning costs, so quit making so many big games.
I would much rather have games similar to miles every three years, then to wait every six years for a bigger game.
Re: The Last of Us Multiplayer Game Is 'Basically on Ice' Right Now
All I want from PlayStation is the quality, length, and quality of tacked on multiplayer that Uncharted 2 delivered. TloU1 and Factions is another good example.
@Ken_Kaniff thoughts on this?
Re: PlayStation's Push for Live Service Games Hasn't Been Going Smoothly
Uncharted 2 is the perfect example of what I want from PlayStation.
Just look at its quality, length, and tacked on multiplayer, that’s the type of experience I want, though, I prefer that at a 60$ price tag.
Re: Jim Ryan Retires as PlayStation Boss in March 2024
The best PlayStation news I’ve heard in a while.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Mortal Kombat 1?
I’m more of a singleplayer mode person and MK1 is lacking in content and execution in comparison to Injustice 2 and MK11.
It’s a 7.5 for me.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0?
Maybe in a few months. I jump between my Xbox and PS5 often and my focus for the next month will be MK1 and then Spider-Man 2.
Re: State of Play Livestream Revealed for Thursday, a Focus on Indie and Third-Party Games
Damn, PlayStation sure has sucked lately.
Re: Mortal Kombat 1's PS5 Launch Trailer Is Going to Sell a Lot of Copies
@Cashews You can google it, MK is the number one fighting game franchise.
Scroll frown to franchise.
https://vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/Best-selling_fighting_games
Re: Mortal Kombat 1's PS5 Launch Trailer Is Going to Sell a Lot of Copies
Dang there is a lot of toxicity in here regarding MK. I’m glad I’m usually around people that are excited for it.
MK is the number one selling fighting game for a reason, it definitely has its fans. I’ve already bought it.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for September 2023?
My buddy recently played Saints and said it was pretty fun, the rest are bad though.
Re: Sony Has a State of Play Livestream for September, Rumours Suggest
@Ken_Kaniff PlayStation has kept my buddy and I busy for years with their first party output to where we’ve never felt like we needed to own Xbox’s.
We both bought Series X’s this past year to go with our PS5s just to have more games to play and GamePass had become very tempting.
Now, we are both thinking about dropping PSonline.
I’ve actually played on my Series X more lately than my PS5. Just in the past few weeks I beat Psychonauts 2 and Quantum Break. Many of Sony’s decisions pushed us to buying Xbox’s when neither of us has had one in over a decade.
Re: Reaction: Has Sony Put Together the Worst PS Plus Month Ever?
I only want to play online and they know there are many like me that they can screw over with these price increases.
Re: Poll: Did You Buy Armored Core 6?
Mechs don’t really do it for me and hearing the environments are underwhelming is a big turnoff for me.
Re: PS5 Fans Note Very Fast Start to 2024 Release Schedule
Hell, I’ve been playing my Xbox more than my PS5 lately. I beat Tinykin and am close to beating Psychonauts on Xbox due to GamePass because PS Studios haven’t given me a reason to return.
Im buying MK1 on PS though and will buy Spider-Man 2 as well. Otherwise, it’s been years since PS Studios have put out so few of games.
I don’t know what has happened to Sony, but their current outlook is VERY underwhelming.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 490
Series X- Psychonauts 2, Grounded, Sea of Thieves
PS5- Diablo 4, Rocket League, Ghostbusters
Re: Poll: Is 'Live Service' Becoming an Excuse to Release Unfinished Games?
I think the fact that it has plenty of examples shows that it’s a problem.
I still haven’t bought Jedi Survivor due to that it’s still janky.
Re: Gamescom Opening Night Live Less About Announcements, More About Big Updates
Other than MK1 and Spider-Man 2, there is absolutely nothing I’m excited for. I wish that wasn’t the case.
I don’t ever remember feeling this way about PlayStation 😬. They are extremely lucky that people are buying PS5s based off of their historical experiences and not based on PlayStation’s current direction.
Re: The Last of Us' Neil Druckmann Confirms He's Writing, Directing New PS5 Game
In regard to some of the comments I’ve seen about upcoming games:
By this point it feels like PlayStation’s slogan needs to be Greatness awaits, and waits and waits.
Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Debuts Its Most Disgusting PS5 Fatalities Yet
@NinjaNicky For myself, that only applies to things that I would be okay with never experiencing. I can’t wait that long for something I would enjoy. You don’t know if you’ll actually be around at that point in time. I try to make time, and enjoy everything I want to do immediately.
Re: Mini Review: Double Dragon Gaiden: Rise of the Dragons (PS5) - A Roguelite Answer to Repetitive Beat-'Em-Ups
How have I NEVER heard of Mighty Final Fight😐?
Re: PS Plus Members Can Watch the Gran Turismo Movie Early
They would have to offer me PS Plus for half a year or more to get me to watch it. I have zero interest in it.
Re: Rumour: Immortals Fenyx Rising Sequel Canned by Ubisoft
If true, that really sucks as I’d rather play that than anything else Ubisoft has to offer.
Re: All of a Sudden, High on Life Is Out Now on PS5, PS4
Played it, liked it, it’s worth around 30$.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro Release Date Reportedly Slated for November 2024
It has felt like they haven’t came close to utilizing the PS5, so I gave zero interest in a Pro version.
Re: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart PC Doesn't Actually Need an SSD
@saffeqwe Apparently THE desired version of R&C was the PS5 version and if a pc with HDD doesn’t match it, then it’s not the desired version.