Will this come off like Sony's PS3? Are we too far into what should have been 3/4 of a product console life cycle, without a pandemic? Do devs have to put in the effort to make this a worthwhile investment? Does that effort rely on adoption rate?
If this came with disc drive, I think it takes off. The fact it doesn't even come with that, or a stand, but costs more than a standard PS5 with a disc drive, this may be a swing and a miss, and Sony comes off as tone deaf.
Time will answer all of these questions and whether this rings true or not.
I'd say it doesn't look good, right now, but I'm always pleasantly surprised when it comes to gaming, and my level of cynicism is proven wrong.
@Steel76 Yeah, the cringe (even if you leave out the controversial ones) is next level. I'm so confused how people don't see it or maybe just don't want to see it.
@Yusuo Feel the same way about RTS games or isometric RPGs where you can have over a dozen spells, etc (BG3, DoS series). How anyone plays those with a controller is beyond me. I guess if you've never played games any other way...
@Cal_ Definitely sounds like a turd but an innovative one. I do like the idea of studios trying to be creative. I'm not much into stealth games sense I have the reflexes of an over 50 yo gamer, so wasn't very likely to play this, but like the concept.
Self-fulfilling prophecy. The more digital only machines you sell the more percentage of digital games will be purchased. I like to "almost" own my games but afraid I'm going to be in the minority, along with most people who visit this site. I'm not knocking digital fans, but I like more choices not less, in consumerism, and do not look forward to a future with zero physical console games.
I quit the original halfway through for some odd reason I can't remember, even though I completed the sequel. Maybe I'll give the fresh coat of paint a try.
I think there's been a move to less creativity, and partly to blame by consumers and game companies. Fresh IPs are rarely rewarded and can mean the untimely end of a company. Hence all the remakes or continuation of tried and true IPs. We rarely reward creativity, anymore, and costs to make a game are astronomical compared to what they used to be. It's hardly surprising. I'm not placing the complete blame at anyone's feet, it's just where we are at.
Got stuck on Astro Bot with that damn snake boss and zero checkpoints, so moved over to Zelda. I'm an older gamer so my reflexes aren't what they used to be.
Man, I thought about picking this game up to try it but Ubisoft's "community" director said it wasn't made for me. Dang, too bad. Oh well, maybe if Ubisoft survives they'll make a game for me. Whatever that means.
I kept Death Stranding on a shelf for over a year because I had heard how it was just a walking simulators. I kept finding better games to play and only cracked it open when I cleared my back log and the Director's cut upgrade was available.
The damn game is a masterpiece and I can't believe it took me so long to play it. No review does it credit for what it is and you really just have to play it to understand. I'm not saying everyone should like it but I did, despite my reservations to play it.
Scalpers eating large today and no matter what anyone says they will sell their crap and idiots will buy them. The whole reason the scum exist and in the dawn of AI we still can't stop them.
Most people with any common sense, knows exactly what the issue is. Unfortunately common sense isn't that common in 2024. We'll just dance around and pretend it's something else.
I'm 100% convinced the term "toxic" in 2024, is just a word thrown around to blame other people for your own failures. It might just be the most wrongly and overused word this decade. I pretty much ignore everything else after seeing it.
I just hope the industry figures out how to resolve scalping, once and for all. I get Sony is trying but they almost make it so hard for a non-scalper too. I'm not suggesting I have the answer but with a ll the technological advances in the era of AI, you would think this one would be easier than it is.
And you thought the vanilla PS5 Pro was too expensive? Don't even know what a limited run of 12k systems will fetch. If you were complaining about $700, good luck getting this anywhere near that once scalpers get their hands on it. Sony took the hate from the previous announcement, and said hold my beer.
I feel like, and I'm not speaking for anyone, just my stupid take, that the people not liking this game are more fans of soulslike games. I could be wrong, got to try it for myself, but it's not like the combat of notable masterpieces, like Zelda LttP, were that engaging, or hard, either. Maybe I'm just misreading their take. Plan on picking it up to see what the fuss is, either way.
If it sells like hotcakes, won't matter what I think. To me the most off putting, more than price, is to have to worry about buying two other parts to make it work like I'd want it to. (Disc drives are already selling it, which should be a clue how well this will sell) Only hope of getting it cheaper is for it to not sell well, which would just be bad for games, too. I don't think that will happen when people barely scoff at $1300 phones, these days. It's gonna be fine. We'll all be fine. Most depressing part is with Xbox eating sh-t, don't expect this scenario to get better. You Sony fanbois all wanted that to happen, so here we are.
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Re: Unknown 9: Awakening Dev Reflector Entertainment Confirms Round of Layoffs
Announced on Bluesky. That checks.
Re: Australia's Planned Social Media Ban to Include PSN
Parent if you won't parent, then the nanny government will do it for you.... I guess
Re: Hands On: Serious Pop-In the Only Problem with Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth's Massive PS5 Pro Boost
@Yozora146_ Call me dumb, but what is 7RE3? Resident Evil??
Re: Round Up: PS5 Pro Reviews Love New Tech and Its Glimpse of PS6 Potential
Will this come off like Sony's PS3? Are we too far into what should have been 3/4 of a product console life cycle, without a pandemic? Do devs have to put in the effort to make this a worthwhile investment? Does that effort rely on adoption rate?
If this came with disc drive, I think it takes off. The fact it doesn't even come with that, or a stand, but costs more than a standard PS5 with a disc drive, this may be a swing and a miss, and Sony comes off as tone deaf.
Time will answer all of these questions and whether this rings true or not.
I'd say it doesn't look good, right now, but I'm always pleasantly surprised when it comes to gaming, and my level of cynicism is proven wrong.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard (PS5) - The Best BioWare Game Since Mass Effect 3
@Steel76 Yeah, the cringe (even if you leave out the controversial ones) is next level. I'm so confused how people don't see it or maybe just don't want to see it.
Re: Mini Review: Planet Coaster 2 (PS5) - Improved Sequel Offers a Ride Well Worth Taking
@Yusuo Feel the same way about RTS games or isometric RPGs where you can have over a dozen spells, etc (BG3, DoS series). How anyone plays those with a controller is beyond me. I guess if you've never played games any other way...
Re: Video: Horizon Zero Dawn's PS5 Remaster Is a Massive Upgrade
Both look great.
Re: The Thing Remastered Looks Like a Superb PS5, PS4 Retelling of an Underappreciated PS2 Classic
Looks like it was remastered from the PS2 to play on the PS3
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard (PS5) - The Best BioWare Game Since Mass Effect 3
Maybe after Metaphor Fantastico. (Which is quickly becoming a contender for my GOTY)
Re: Stealth Issues Still the Focus of Star Wars Outlaws PS5 Patches
@Waitinonpsvr2 oh, I assure you, it's not been perfected. Just more glitter on a turd.
Re: Mini Review: A Quiet Place: The Road Ahead (PS5) - Immersive and Surprisingly Impressive
@Cal_ Definitely sounds like a turd but an innovative one. I do like the idea of studios trying to be creative. I'm not much into stealth games sense I have the reflexes of an over 50 yo gamer, so wasn't very likely to play this, but like the concept.
Re: Ubisoft Disbands Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown Team After Poor Sales, Claims Report
@Marquez Hate it for (some) of their employees. Hope the community director goes first, and good riddance to the company itself.
Re: Like It or Not, This Is Why PS5 Pro Doesn't Have a Disc Drive
Self-fulfilling prophecy. The more digital only machines you sell the more percentage of digital games will be purchased. I like to "almost" own my games but afraid I'm going to be in the minority, along with most people who visit this site. I'm not knocking digital fans, but I like more choices not less, in consumerism, and do not look forward to a future with zero physical console games.
Re: Opinion: The Price of Playing PS5 Games Day One Is Getting Higher and Higher
CNN said inflation was in our heads...
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered Sounds Like a Ridiculously Good PS5 Upgrade
I quit the original halfway through for some odd reason I can't remember, even though I completed the sequel. Maybe I'll give the fresh coat of paint a try.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Exec Shawn Layden Says There's Been a 'Collapse' in Gaming Creativity
I think there's been a move to less creativity, and partly to blame by consumers and game companies. Fresh IPs are rarely rewarded and can mean the untimely end of a company. Hence all the remakes or continuation of tried and true IPs. We rarely reward creativity, anymore, and costs to make a game are astronomical compared to what they used to be. It's hardly surprising. I'm not placing the complete blame at anyone's feet, it's just where we are at.
Re: Like a Dragon: Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii Dodges Monster Hunter Wilds with New PS5, PS4 Release Date
Honestly, I care more about a Yakuza game, no matter how zany (zanier the better) but realize other people might prefer to hunt monsters.
Re: PS5 Platformer The Eternal Life of Goldman Looks Absolutely Stunning in Behind-the-Scenes Trailer
Is this one of those high praised games that ultimately gets a 6 when it's released?
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 549
Got stuck on Astro Bot with that damn snake boss and zero checkpoints, so moved over to Zelda. I'm an older gamer so my reflexes aren't what they used to be.
Re: Epic Games Boss Says Firm Now 'Financially Sound', Following the Firing of Over 800 Staff
@CriticalHit "Quickly" is about how long their next job will last in this tech climate. Time to work for the government or something, I guess.
Re: Random: God of War Ragnarok PC Mod Removes Thousands of 'Helpful' Dialogue Lines
@ATaco Let me know when someone is following you around repeating the same lines over and over. I mean, I'm married too but even she ain't that bad.
Re: Big Star Wars Outlaws PS5 Update Takes Aim at Stealth, Performance
Man, I thought about picking this game up to try it but Ubisoft's "community" director said it wasn't made for me. Dang, too bad. Oh well, maybe if Ubisoft survives they'll make a game for me. Whatever that means.
Re: Silent Hill 2 Remake Breaks Street Date, PS5 Discs Loose in the Wild
@Tasuki Well, that's the normal course of the gaming industry, anyway. Produce a game. Fire everyone. Work on the next game and hire a new team.
Re: This Silent Hill 2 PS5 vs PS2 Comparison Will Blow Your Mind
@playstation1995 I believe you are half right
Re: Kojima's Next Big PlayStation Game Physint Will Take Some Time to Complete
I kept Death Stranding on a shelf for over a year because I had heard how it was just a walking simulators. I kept finding better games to play and only cracked it open when I cleared my back log and the Director's cut upgrade was available.
The damn game is a masterpiece and I can't believe it took me so long to play it. No review does it credit for what it is and you really just have to play it to understand. I'm not saying everyone should like it but I did, despite my reservations to play it.
Re: PS5 Pro's 30th Anniversary Bundles Are Getting Flipped for $5,000
I'm completely and utterly (not) shocked
Re: How to Pre-Order PS5's 30th Anniversary Collection
Scalpers eating large today and no matter what anyone says they will sell their crap and idiots will buy them. The whole reason the scum exist and in the dawn of AI we still can't stop them.
Re: Ubisoft Board Orders Internal Investigation and Review into Company's Financial Woes
Most people with any common sense, knows exactly what the issue is. Unfortunately common sense isn't that common in 2024. We'll just dance around and pretend it's something else.
Re: How to Pre-Order PS5 Pro
Will there be an edition without the rainbow?
Re: How to Pre-Order PS5's 30th Anniversary Collection
No way to beat the scalper bots. I'm good.
Re: New PS5, PS4 Games This Week (23rd September to 29th September)
The Mouse going up against Zelda's debut? Yikes.
Re: Rumour: Concord Cost $400 Million, Sony Believed It Was the 'Future of PlayStation'
I'm 100% convinced the term "toxic" in 2024, is just a word thrown around to blame other people for your own failures. It might just be the most wrongly and overused word this decade. I pretty much ignore everything else after seeing it.
Re: Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid During This Silent Hill 2 PS5 Immersion Trailer
@Undeadcop It's 2024, what did you expect? Most people wake up pissed off.
Re: Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid During This Silent Hill 2 PS5 Immersion Trailer
Man, came prepared to view it and cringe but damn looks good.
Re: Fairgame$ May Be Sony's Most Tone Deaf PS5, PC Title to Date
@Jaz007 Well, we have to be offended by something, even if we have to stretch to find it.
Re: Rumour: PS6 Could Span a Console and Handheld Device
I just hope the industry figures out how to resolve scalping, once and for all. I get Sony is trying but they almost make it so hard for a non-scalper too. I'm not suggesting I have the answer but with a ll the technological advances in the era of AI, you would think this one would be easier than it is.
Re: Reaction: Why There Are So Many Unnecessary PS5 Remasters for Games That Don't Need Them
I'm blaming COVID or Obama...just because
Re: Jaw-Dropping 30th Anniversary PS5 Pro Console and Accessories Will Bankrupt You
And you thought the vanilla PS5 Pro was too expensive? Don't even know what a limited run of 12k systems will fetch. If you were complaining about $700, good luck getting this anywhere near that once scalpers get their hands on it. Sony took the hate from the previous announcement, and said hold my beer.
Re: The Plucky Squire (PS5) - Joyful, Inventive Adventure on Every Page of PS Plus Gem
I feel like, and I'm not speaking for anyone, just my stupid take, that the people not liking this game are more fans of soulslike games. I could be wrong, got to try it for myself, but it's not like the combat of notable masterpieces, like Zelda LttP, were that engaging, or hard, either. Maybe I'm just misreading their take. Plan on picking it up to see what the fuss is, either way.
Re: Final Fantasy 16 Is F**cked and PS5's New Firmware Is to Blame
Not a technical genius on how PS5's work but completely sounds like some type of shader caching issue.
Re: Preview: Unknown 9 Awakening Plays Like a Long Lost PS3 Remaster on PS5, PS4
WTF even is that? 2024, go home, you're drunk...
Re: Yoshi-P Pleads for Modder Restraint Ahead of Final Fantasy 16 PC Launch
Think that was some reverse Jedi mind trickery that he really, really didn't mean. At least that's what all the modders will think.
Re: Feature: PS5 Pro's Been Clowned on By the Entire Internet, and the Memes Will Make You Laugh
@Leeg What would you consider a good social media account? It's supposed to be lame.
Re: Lack of Competition from Xbox Partly Why PS5 Pro Is $700, Says Analyst
Sony fan bois: Xbox sux, good riddance.
Also Sony fan bois: Why is Sony charge an arm and a leg?
Analysts: Because they can.
Re: Poll: Would You Buy PS5 Pro If It Was Cheaper?
If it sells like hotcakes, won't matter what I think. To me the most off putting, more than price, is to have to worry about buying two other parts to make it work like I'd want it to. (Disc drives are already selling it, which should be a clue how well this will sell) Only hope of getting it cheaper is for it to not sell well, which would just be bad for games, too. I don't think that will happen when people barely scoff at $1300 phones, these days. It's gonna be fine. We'll all be fine. Most depressing part is with Xbox eating sh-t, don't expect this scenario to get better. You Sony fanbois all wanted that to happen, so here we are.
Re: Talking Point: Is PS5 Pro Way Too Expensive?
@themightyant There's also no reason TO think the PS6 would be any cheaper. Honestly, that would shock me more. It would make zero sense.
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
I wasn't going to buy it but after reading all the salty comments, I think I might. Still gonna sell out and still gonna be scalped.
Re: Star Wars Outlaws' Instant Fail Stealth Sections Will Be Reworked in Upcoming PS5 Patch
Don't bother. The whole game is an instant fail.
Re: Test Drive Unlimited: Solar Crown Review (PS5) - Flawless Driving Stalled by Technical Issues and a Lacking Hong Kong
@Northern_munkey we can't be bothered
Re: Test Drive Unlimited: Solar Crown Review (PS5) - Flawless Driving Stalled by Technical Issues and a Lacking Hong Kong
6 Should just say "Not Good"