During Sony's business meeting over a week ago they actually broke down how they categorise their games.
There are in one of three groups.
"Tentpole: Existing hit franchises/new IPs with high ambitions.
Transformational: Primarily live service with ongoing content.
Differentiate through IP, theme or gameplay.
Experimental: Showcase innovation, reach new audiences, target new genres.
High potential games, with discipline on scope and budget."
Lego Horizon fits the "experimental" group since it's reaching new audiences, plus it has high sales potential while presumably been a lower budget game.
@get2sammyb it's interesting to see where each of Sony's games fit with that outlook.
Man what a masterpiece John Carpenter's The Thing was. Such a wonderful balance of suspense, effects and acting. The dvd commentary between Carpenter and Kurt Russell was worth listening too as well...very informative but also it was like two mates watching a film.
@Korgon Yeah I would have liked 5 or 6 but with how the fighters are added into the single player mode it probably takes more work. Hopefully content comes along that gets you excited.
It was a decent show, for me far too many look at these shows wanting only AAA games and when they don't get it they pine for the E3 days which wouldn't fix the issue. In fact it would make things worse. It would cost publishers a lot more money and it adds to the Devs workload since they would need to do a "E3 demo." The Last of Us Part 2 documentary showed just how stressful it was to do that, just because of the expectation that "they had to show something."
The lighting looks stunning, wonder if there using ray tracing? Was surreal seeing the Lego version of the Tallneck when I have the real on one on my desk lol.
@Tintin I was glad that Skill Up recognised what the game was going for and who's made by...I.E. the former Destiny PVP team.
@QiaraIris Well every PC game from Sony going forward will require a PSN account so people will just have to get used to it, if they want Sony's games.
@Americansamurai1 We don't know what state Factions was in to begin with, plus Naughty Dog wouldn't have handed it off to a 3rd party. They either had to fully commit to it at the expense of their single player games or drop it.
Hopefully with this price point we'll get a Helldivers 2 like business model where it doesn't feel ridiculously grindy or full of FOMO. Hopefully the beta impresses, they will do well to reach out to Destiny's player base who feel like it's PVP mode was left to die.
@UltimateOtaku91 It's some just want to be outraged all the time.
Sony's entire lineup this year is: Helldivers 2 Rise of the Ronin MLB The Show 24 Stellar Blade Concord Astro Bot and Until Dawn Remake. That's not a bad lineup considering there isn't a huge IP launch this year.
Well here's the acid test...do people love Astro enough to want to buy it. The trophy completion rate on Playroom was quite low despite it been an easy game and free.
Seriously though the Astro games are chill, imaginative platformers with buckets of charm, I really hope that it's his coming out party.
@LordVile When Sony added Horizon Forbidden West to Plus it tanked sales of the game. I think Sony will wait a lot longer now to put their games on Plus.
@DNortonX Microsoft will make a lot of money but there doing it at the expense of their platform. Xbox consoles are tanking, GP subs have stagnated and the fanbase is disillusioned.
Hopefully the game doesn't get brought down by it's business model cos the devs clearly brought a lot of love to the game, plus they have a near endless supply of characters they can bring in. Freakazoid would be my number 1 choice.
For me, spending stars points on individual games is never worth it. I always prefer to save for the £20 wallet top up cos then at least I can use it for any game.
@AKAslickdaddy40 Do they call you "Stretch Armstrong?" Because you aren't half reaching. My point was that people aren't interested in hyperbole buzzwords, that means nothing. If he really believes in that then just let the game do the talking.
@UltimateOtaku91 FC24 has a huge casual audience that probably don't buy Plus for the games. Not to mention that it was the end of the Premier League season so that would have spiked sales.
At least now I don't have to buy any of the fighter passes to get the songs, cos for me they were the only thing of worth to me. I don't mind the music for 6, it fits the hip hop summer vibe that the game's going for but that SF2 soundtrack is iconic for a reason.
@0niguy Very much doubt it, Shift Up are worth a hell of a lot of money, recent reports mentioned around $2.3 Billion, plus Tencent have already invested in them. I can see Sony buying minority shares to keep the partnership going though. And with Sony as a company looking to buy Paramount, PlayStation will to be a lot choosier about who they buy now.
@Northern_munkey That's a problem I have with FromSoft's storytelling...they never give definitive answers to most of it, it's left to interpretation for YouTubers to analysis over.
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Re: French Turn-Based RPG Expedition 33 Announced for PS5 in Promising Debut Trailer
@itsfoz Even so there didn't seem to be anything that's going to shift the needle or change the perception of the air of negativity surrounding Xbox.
Re: French Turn-Based RPG Expedition 33 Announced for PS5 in Promising Debut Trailer
@itsfoz Don't know about that, most of their games lack release dates.
Re: Starship Troopers: Extermination, Now with a Single Player Story, Is Blasting Bugs This October on PS5
@yazzika Thank you...that was the joke.
Re: Starship Troopers: Extermination, Now with a Single Player Story, Is Blasting Bugs This October on PS5
Helldivers is barely 4 months old and it's already getting copycats.
Re: Brilliant PS5, PS4 Angling Outing Dredge Adding More Monstrosities on 15th August
@Beerheadgamer82 Wow you described my experience with it, word for word.
Re: Some PlayStation Fans Are Losing Their Minds Over LEGO Horizon Being on Switch
During Sony's business meeting over a week ago they actually broke down how they categorise their games.
There are in one of three groups.
"Tentpole: Existing hit franchises/new IPs with high ambitions.
Transformational: Primarily live service with ongoing content.
Differentiate through IP, theme or gameplay.
Experimental: Showcase innovation, reach new audiences, target new genres.
High potential games, with discipline on scope and budget."
Lego Horizon fits the "experimental" group since it's reaching new audiences, plus it has high sales potential while presumably been a lower budget game.
@get2sammyb it's interesting to see where each of Sony's games fit with that outlook.
Re: Cult PS2 Horror The Thing Remastered Returns in 4K, 120fps on PS5
Man what a masterpiece John Carpenter's The Thing was. Such a wonderful balance of suspense, effects and acting.
The dvd commentary between Carpenter and Kurt Russell was worth listening too as well...very informative but also it was like two mates watching a film.
Re: Street Fighter 6's M. Bison Has a New Body, And He's Ready to Use It on PS5, PS4
@Korgon Yeah I would have liked 5 or 6 but with how the fighters are added into the single player mode it probably takes more work. Hopefully content comes along that gets you excited.
Re: Reaction: Summer Game Fest 2024 Showcases AAA's Endless Winter
It was a decent show, for me far too many look at these shows wanting only AAA games and when they don't get it they pine for the E3 days which wouldn't fix the issue. In fact it would make things worse.
It would cost publishers a lot more money and it adds to the Devs workload since they would need to do a "E3 demo." The Last of Us Part 2 documentary showed just how stressful it was to do that, just because of the expectation that "they had to show something."
Re: Elden Ring's Massive Shadow of the Erdtree DLC Doesn't Have Any Trophies on PS5, PS4
Meanwhile Sea of Thieves added 195 trophies on top of the base 59, no excuses.
Re: Even as a LEGO Game, Horizon Adventures' PS5 Visuals Are Off the Charts
The lighting looks stunning, wonder if there using ray tracing? Was surreal seeing the Lego version of the Tallneck when I have the real on one on my desk lol.
Re: LEGO Horizon Adventures Is Official, Out on PS5, PC, and Nintendo Switch
How long will it be before people start questioning why Nintendo isn't sharing now lol
Re: Tomba Special Edition Confirms Gameplay Enhancements on PS5, PS4
@JB_Whiting Abe's Odyssey and Overboard were my go to demo games.
Re: Video: Is Concord Destined to Fail?
@Tintin I was glad that Skill Up recognised what the game was going for and who's made by...I.E. the former Destiny PVP team.
@QiaraIris Well every PC game from Sony going forward will require a PSN account so people will just have to get used to it, if they want Sony's games.
Re: There's a Damn Good Reason to Buy Astro Bot Physically on PS5
@Topov81 Thanks for telling me about The Game Collection, just put in my preorder.
Re: Concord PS5, PC Has Six Action-Packed Modes at Launch
@QBGaming12 I always believe in giving games a chance regardless of genre, artstyle, price etc.
Re: Helldivers 2's Close-Quarters Viper Commandos Warbond Goes Rambo on 13th June
Arrowhead also said that they are lengthening the time between war bonds releasing cos they want to give people more time to finish the previous ones.
Re: There's a Damn Good Reason to Buy Astro Bot Physically on PS5
All of it, just give me all of it Sony and I will pay.
Re: Concord PS5, PC Has Six Action-Packed Modes at Launch
@get2sammyb Think that's an alien concept to many on here.
Re: PS5, PC Shooter Concord Appears to Be a $40 Game
@NEStalgia Worked for Overwatch. It's cutscenes never had anything to do with the game.
Re: PS5 Packaging No Longer Mentions 8K, Some Fans Accuse Sony of False Advertising
People will nitpick anything to do with Sony these days.
Re: PS5, PC Shooter Concord Appears to Be a $40 Game
@Americansamurai1 We don't know what state Factions was in to begin with, plus Naughty Dog wouldn't have handed it off to a 3rd party. They either had to fully commit to it at the expense of their single player games or drop it.
Re: PS5, PC Shooter Concord Appears to Be a $40 Game
Hopefully with this price point we'll get a Helldivers 2 like business model where it doesn't feel ridiculously grindy or full of FOMO.
Hopefully the beta impresses, they will do well to reach out to Destiny's player base who feel like it's PVP mode was left to die.
Re: Summer Game Fest Will Focus on Existing Games, Not Massive Announcements
I'm still thinking that the Lego Horizon game might be a mobile title, Sony do have a mobile studio after all.
Re: Classic PS1 Platformer Tomba! Arrives on PS5 in August
No I don't remember Tomba but I do remember Tombi.
Re: Astro Bot Raises the Bar for Sony's PS Studios Intros on PS5
Imagine if we could bottle this game's charm.
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Sony's State of Play for May 2024?
@UltimateOtaku91 I so hope Astro is a GOTY contender. Out of all of Sony's IP's, this is the one I want to see succeed.
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Sony's State of Play for May 2024?
@UltimateOtaku91 It's some just want to be outraged all the time.
Sony's entire lineup this year is:
Helldivers 2
Rise of the Ronin
MLB The Show 24
Stellar Blade
Concord
Astro Bot
and Until Dawn Remake.
That's not a bad lineup considering there isn't a huge IP launch this year.
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced During Sony's State of Play Livestream for May 2024?
Concord and Astro for me.
Re: God of War Ragnarok PC Officially Confirmed for 19th September
@Orpheus79V Yeah I'm never a fan of them doing that.
Re: Astro Bot Looks Absolutely Glorious, Lands on PS5 This September
Well here's the acid test...do people love Astro enough to want to buy it. The trophy completion rate on Playroom was quite low despite it been an easy game and free.
Seriously though the Astro games are chill, imaginative platformers with buckets of charm, I really hope that it's his coming out party.
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Sony's State of Play for May 2024?
Well we were trying to tell you that it'll just be Concord, Until Dawn and Astro.
Sony will have PS5 Pro to sell soon, so anything there saving for 2025 will around then.
Re: Concord Is Sony's Answer to Overwatch, Launches August, Beta Test in July
This basically is Destiny's neglected PVP mode.
Of course everyone is writing it off already...have you lot not learned from Helldivers?
Re: Sony Plans to Convert PC Gamers Through the Power of PlayStation
Glad there sticking to the current plan of tentpole titles been PlayStation first.
Re: Rumour: God of War Ragnarok's PC Announcement Is Imminent
@LordVile When Sony added Horizon Forbidden West to Plus it tanked sales of the game. I think Sony will wait a lot longer now to put their games on Plus.
Re: Stellar Blade Maker Promises More Outfits for Eve on PS5
@AndyKazama Was thinking that myself.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for June 2024 Announced
@ATaco Couldn't argue with that.
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Live-Action Trailer Revealed
@DNortonX Microsoft will make a lot of money but there doing it at the expense of their platform. Xbox consoles are tanking, GP subs have stagnated and the fanbase is disillusioned.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for June 2024 Announced
PS2 games been added gives me hope that we'll get some classics coming.
Re: MultiVersus Is Back, Now Available on PS5, PS4
Hopefully the game doesn't get brought down by it's business model cos the devs clearly brought a lot of love to the game, plus they have a near endless supply of characters they can bring in. Freakazoid would be my number 1 choice.
Re: PS5's Sublime Stellar Blade Can Now Be Yours with PS Stars Points
For me, spending stars points on individual games is never worth it. I always prefer to save for the £20 wallet top up cos then at least I can use it for any game.
Re: The Next Naughty Dog Game Its 'Most Thrilling Yet', Says Neil Druckmann
@AKAslickdaddy40 Do they call you "Stretch Armstrong?" Because you aren't half reaching.
My point was that people aren't interested in hyperbole buzzwords, that means nothing. If he really believes in that then just let the game do the talking.
Re: The Next Naughty Dog Game Its 'Most Thrilling Yet', Says Neil Druckmann
With respect to him, show...don't tell.
Re: Soapbox: Once a PS4 Console Exclusive, PS5 Players Are Missing a Visual Stunner in Hellblade 2
So a visual showcase that's 6 hours long, minimal gameplay and black bars? I didn't know the The Order: 1886 got a sequel?
Re: PS5, PS4 Mascot Brawler MultiVersus Is Completely Reinventing Its Monetisation
What timeline are we in where a game has Jason Voorhees fighting Bugs Bunny? Lol
Re: Helldivers 2 Updates Set to Slow Down as Dev Shares Concern Over Patch Quality
@GymratAmarillo I suspect the new faction will get announced at a showcase or SoP.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Gap in New Releases Means Business as Usual for Regular Bestsellers
@UltimateOtaku91 FC24 has a huge casual audience that probably don't buy Plus for the games. Not to mention that it was the end of the Premier League season so that would have spiked sales.
Re: Street Fighter 6's PS5, PS4 Soundtrack Is About to Get a Huge Upgrade
At least now I don't have to buy any of the fighter passes to get the songs, cos for me they were the only thing of worth to me.
I don't mind the music for 6, it fits the hip hop summer vibe that the game's going for but that SF2 soundtrack is iconic for a reason.
Re: Stellar Blade Sequel Is Under Serious Consideration as Dev Eyes AAA Franchise Success
@0niguy Very much doubt it, Shift Up are worth a hell of a lot of money, recent reports mentioned around $2.3 Billion, plus Tencent have already invested in them. I can see Sony buying minority shares to keep the partnership going though. And with Sony as a company looking to buy Paramount, PlayStation will to be a lot choosier about who they buy now.
Re: Bandai Namco Reveals Familiar-Looking Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree Foe
@Northern_munkey That's a problem I have with FromSoft's storytelling...they never give definitive answers to most of it, it's left to interpretation for YouTubers to analysis over.